09-09-2016, 02:31 PM
The conservative, maverick host John McLaughlin made fun of moderate panelist Mort Kondracke by saying this to him when John thought Mort was correct on an issue.
(09-07-2016, 09:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Having worked in retail soon after graduating from college (d@mned undiagnosed Asperger's!), I can tell you that retail sales clerks are among the laziest, stupidest, materialistic, and hollowest people that you will ever meet in the workplace. Those who don't fit that pattern simply took the job in desperation and believe that it is easier to get a job elsewhere if one can work nights and weekends (employers find such people hard to find and will accommodate that) and interview for jobs by day. Some go into the work saying things like "I don't want to be a mere office clerk or assembly-line worker"... and three months later they are happy that they got a job as an office clerk or an assembly-line worker. Turnover is high enough that someone can often get into a low-level managerial job (with similar pay and more responsibility) within a year. But being a 'manager trainee' means little on a curriculum vitae. People who have any intellectual substance or work ethic don't stay on that job for long. "Office clerk" has more promise for someone with a college degree.
Id you wonder why the traditional department store has practically disappeared in America (Kohl's, one of the biggest chains in America, has gone to a grocery-style checkout, which may be good for thwarting shoplifting) ... it's because American shoppers have caught on. If you want good advice on merchandise at Wal*Mart, then ask a fellow customer.
(09-10-2016, 01:11 AM)gabrielle Wrote: [ -> ]I work retail. I work for a mid-size company that buys and sells books, games, music, movies, toys, comics and collectibles. I am in charge of the book section, and we have a fairly large one in our store, thousands of titles. I have a bachelor's degree in history. It's not a prestigious or high paying job, but I like what I do. I don't want an office job, sitting at a desk all day long, getting fatter and more unhealthy, doing boring repetitive work and seeing only the same few faces every day (whom I may or may not even like). I sure as hell wouldn't want to be an assembly line worker. I love books, love to see new titles and interesting things people bring in to sell. I get to move around all day, shifting and shelving merchandise and keeping relatively fit, and occasionally do creative stuff like build and arrange my own displays. A lot of families come into my store, and it's fun to help kids find the books and toys they want and show them books I liked as a kid. I suppose I am not a terribly ambitious person, but I don't think I am "lazy, stupid, materialistic, and hollow." And I like the majority of people I work with, thanks in large part due to shared interests related to the merchandise we sell. Only a small minority over the years have proven to be dishonest.
The irony of you writing that ignorant passage immediately following a criticism of Galen's prejudice against vegans. "What people say about the rest of humanity as a whole says what that person is himself."
Sorry everyone, had to get that off my chest. Carry on with your Trump vs Clinton, red/blue divide conversation.
(09-10-2016, 01:22 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 01:11 AM)gabrielle Wrote: [ -> ](09-07-2016, 09:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Having worked in retail soon after graduating from college (d@mned undiagnosed Asperger's!), I can tell you that retail sales clerks are among the laziest, stupidest, materialistic, and hollowest people that you will ever meet in the workplace. Those who don't fit that pattern simply took the job in desperation and believe that it is easier to get a job elsewhere if one can work nights and weekends (employers find such people hard to find and will accommodate that) and interview for jobs by day. Some go into the work saying things like "I don't want to be a mere office clerk or assembly-line worker"... and three months later they are happy that they got a job as an office clerk or an assembly-line worker. Turnover is high enough that someone can often get into a low-level managerial job (with similar pay and more responsibility) within a year. But being a 'manager trainee' means little on a curriculum vitae. People who have any intellectual substance or work ethic don't stay on that job for long. "Office clerk" has more promise for someone with a college degree.
Id you wonder why the traditional department store has practically disappeared in America (Kohl's, one of the biggest chains in America, has gone to a grocery-style checkout, which may be good for thwarting shoplifting) ... it's because American shoppers have caught on. If you want good advice on merchandise at Wal*Mart, then ask a fellow customer.
I work retail. I work for a mid-size company that buys and sells books, games, music, movies, toys, comics and collectibles. I am in charge of the book section, and we have a fairly large one in our store, thousands of titles. I have a bachelor's degree in history. It's not a prestigious or high paying job, but I like what I do. I don't want an office job, sitting at a desk all day long, getting fatter and more unhealthy, doing boring repetitive work and seeing only the same few faces every day (whom I may or may not even like). I sure as hell wouldn't want to be an assembly line worker. I love books, love to see new titles and interesting things people bring in to sell. I get to move around all day, shifting and shelving merchandise and keeping relatively fit, and occasionally do creative stuff like build and arrange my own displays. A lot of families come into my store, and it's fun to help kids find the books and toys they want and show them books I liked as a kid. I suppose I am not a terribly ambitious person, but I don't think I am "lazy, stupid, materialistic, and hollow." And I like the majority of people I work with, thanks in large part due to shared interests related to the merchandise we sell. Only a small minority over the years have proven to be dishonest.
The irony of you writing that ignorant passage immediately following a criticism of Galen's prejudice against vegans. "What people say about the rest of humanity as a whole says what that person is himself."
Sorry everyone, had to get that off my chest. Carry on with your Trump vs Clinton, red/blue divide conversation.
Btw i understand you getting it off your chest. It was totally called for. Hopefully it will educate a certain someone.
(09-10-2016, 01:35 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 01:22 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 01:11 AM)gabrielle Wrote: [ -> ](09-07-2016, 09:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Having worked in retail soon after graduating from college (d@mned undiagnosed Asperger's!), I can tell you that retail sales clerks are among the laziest, stupidest, materialistic, and hollowest people that you will ever meet in the workplace. Those who don't fit that pattern simply took the job in desperation and believe that it is easier to get a job elsewhere if one can work nights and weekends (employers find such people hard to find and will accommodate that) and interview for jobs by day. Some go into the work saying things like "I don't want to be a mere office clerk or assembly-line worker"... and three months later they are happy that they got a job as an office clerk or an assembly-line worker. Turnover is high enough that someone can often get into a low-level managerial job (with similar pay and more responsibility) within a year. But being a 'manager trainee' means little on a curriculum vitae. People who have any intellectual substance or work ethic don't stay on that job for long. "Office clerk" has more promise for someone with a college degree.
Id you wonder why the traditional department store has practically disappeared in America (Kohl's, one of the biggest chains in America, has gone to a grocery-style checkout, which may be good for thwarting shoplifting) ... it's because American shoppers have caught on. If you want good advice on merchandise at Wal*Mart, then ask a fellow customer.
I work retail. I work for a mid-size company that buys and sells books, games, music, movies, toys, comics and collectibles. I am in charge of the book section, and we have a fairly large one in our store, thousands of titles. I have a bachelor's degree in history. It's not a prestigious or high paying job, but I like what I do. I don't want an office job, sitting at a desk all day long, getting fatter and more unhealthy, doing boring repetitive work and seeing only the same few faces every day (whom I may or may not even like). I sure as hell wouldn't want to be an assembly line worker. I love books, love to see new titles and interesting things people bring in to sell. I get to move around all day, shifting and shelving merchandise and keeping relatively fit, and occasionally do creative stuff like build and arrange my own displays. A lot of families come into my store, and it's fun to help kids find the books and toys they want and show them books I liked as a kid. I suppose I am not a terribly ambitious person, but I don't think I am "lazy, stupid, materialistic, and hollow." And I like the majority of people I work with, thanks in large part due to shared interests related to the merchandise we sell. Only a small minority over the years have proven to be dishonest.
The irony of you writing that ignorant passage immediately following a criticism of Galen's prejudice against vegans. "What people say about the rest of humanity as a whole says what that person is himself."
Sorry everyone, had to get that off my chest. Carry on with your Trump vs Clinton, red/blue divide conversation.
Btw i understand you getting it off your chest. It was totally called for. Hopefully it will educate a certain someone.
There is not much chance of that is there.
You have to live near the People's Republic of Portland to understand my problems with the vegans and bicyclists. Its a more intense version of the left's virtue signaling. Probably why I like the Seventh-Day Adventists better, they just obsess about the end of the world which I find much less annoying.
(09-10-2016, 01:39 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 01:35 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]There is not much chance of that is there.Some bicyclists here have a death wish and vegans, well i have met some who want to stop meat eaters eating what they wish which i do not agree with. Would be interesting to hear your perspective.
You have to live near the People's Republic of Portland to understand my problems with the vegans and bicyclists. Its a more intense version of the left's virtue signaling. Probably why I like the Seventh-Day Adventists better, they just obsess about the end of the world which I find much less annoying.
(09-10-2016, 02:40 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]Well before I gave my bike to my mate I did not fit that mold. I simply did it because it was freedom. I also made sure I was never in the way of traffic. (My mother did not want me biking till I was an adult). So I will not judge them all into one group. I will just think yes some would be like that.
(09-10-2016, 02:26 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]In the case of the bicyclists they seem to think that they are saving the planet and never stop telling you about it. I have been threatened with every possible end of the world scenario and none of them have been even remotely true.They ARE true. If we don't stop using fossil fuels, we literally are toast.
Quote:The other thing bicyclists do is ignore traffic laws. It wouldn't be so bad except they like getting out in the middle of the road and obstructing traffic. They got the previous Mayor to ignore road maintenance in favor of building bike paths. During Monsoon season many drivers like to see if they can drown cyclists by driving fast through puddles to thank them for all they have done.
Quote:The vegans also go on about saving the planet and how cruelty free they are. As a consequence they are even more smug about it. The Seventh Day Adventists do vegetarianism right but they have been at it since at since the mid-nineteenth century. Many of the vegans look very unhealthy because they don't know what they are doing.
(09-10-2016, 02:58 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]The Tri-County area is infested with a bunch of politically correct people virtue signaling assholes. Like Eric the Obtuse they don't have enough sense to leave everyone else alone. Its ironic when you think about it, if they weren't busy stealing from me and trying to run my life I wouldn't give a shit what they did.
(09-10-2016, 03:00 AM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:26 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]In the case of the bicyclists they seem to think that they are saving the planet and never stop telling you about it. I have been threatened with every possible end of the world scenario and none of them have been even remotely true.They ARE true. If we don't stop using fossil fuels, we literally are toast.
(09-10-2016, 03:00 AM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:26 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]The other thing bicyclists do is ignore traffic laws. It wouldn't be so bad except they like getting out in the middle of the road and obstructing traffic. They got the previous Mayor to ignore road maintenance in favor of building bike paths. During Monsoon season many drivers like to see if they can drown cyclists by driving fast through puddles to thank them for all they have done.
Then THEY are the mean idiots. I hear that your fellow conservatives down south hate bicyclists and chase them down and attack them. And if we had more bike paths, they would get in drivers' way less often. It's a great investment.
(09-10-2016, 03:00 AM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:26 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]The vegans also go on about saving the planet and how cruelty free they are. As a consequence they are even more smug about it. The Seventh Day Adventists do vegetarianism right but they have been at it since at since the mid-nineteenth century. Many of the vegans look very unhealthy because they don't know what they are doing.
Bike riders here in the capitol of Silicon Valley almost never get in the middle of the road and obstruct traffic. Drivers are polite to them too. On the other hand, we have some streets in which bikes are allowed and encouraged to ride in the middle of the road. You wouldn't like that! Fortunately it doesn't happen too often; I still ride on the side on those streets. Not that trusting. You never know, a Galen might be driving behind me. Just kidding, I'm not attributing that to you. I hope I'm right.
(09-10-2016, 03:00 AM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: [ -> ]I think vegans should brag about how healthy and cruelty free they are. I suppose they can do that without insulting non-vegans, even if some don't. Vegan has much to recommend it, although lots of folks can't or won't join them. Including me, so far. They may not do it "right," but at least they are making the attempt. But I don't live in the People's City of Portland. But I hear it's perhaps the most livable city in the country; probably rivalled only by Seattle. Having lots of vegans and bike riders around just might be a sign that this is true. People like that and similar folks care about the things that make a city livable, too. It just goes with the territory. People who care about health, and the health of the planet, care about making a city livable too, and they do it!
(09-10-2016, 03:04 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:58 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]The Tri-County area is infested with a bunch of politically correct people virtue signaling assholes. Like Eric the Obtuse they don't have enough sense to leave everyone else alone. Its ironic when you think about it, if they weren't busy stealing from me and trying to run my life I wouldn't give a shit what they did.
Pay your taxes without complaint. Be a citizen.
(09-10-2016, 04:31 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 03:04 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:58 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]The Tri-County area is infested with a bunch of politically correct people virtue signaling assholes. Like Eric the Obtuse they don't have enough sense to leave everyone else alone. Its ironic when you think about it, if they weren't busy stealing from me and trying to run my life I wouldn't give a shit what they did.
Pay your taxes without complaint. Be a citizen.
Citizenship these days is badly overrated. Medieval serfs got to keep more of their earnings.
(09-10-2016, 03:07 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:58 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:40 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]Well before I gave my bike to my mate I did not fit that mold. I simply did it because it was freedom. I also made sure I was never in the way of traffic. (My mother did not want me biking till I was an adult). So I will not judge them all into one group. I will just think yes some would be like that.
That is because you are a normal person who just wants to get through life. The Tri-County area is infested with a bunch of politically correct people virtue signaling assholes. Like Eric the Obtuse they don't have enough sense to leave everyone else alone. Its ironic when you think about it, if they weren't busy stealing from me and trying to run my life I wouldn't give a shit what they did.
Stealing from you? Ad oh well I do not live in that area so i would not know tbh. There are some like that here with not considering others and some kiwis who are vegans who want people to be like them. But if idealistic partisanship in politics is anything to go by with people trying to convert people in one way or another I would be not surprised. Some Americans tell me that it is not like that at all. Not all Americans are not like that they say. They could be right to a certain degree but from what I see it makes me feel like they are used to the conversion/partisan tactic. It is not normal whether it be political or lifestyle choice.
(09-10-2016, 04:35 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 04:31 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 03:04 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ](09-10-2016, 02:58 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]The Tri-County area is infested with a bunch of politically correct people virtue signaling assholes. Like Eric the Obtuse they don't have enough sense to leave everyone else alone. Its ironic when you think about it, if they weren't busy stealing from me and trying to run my life I wouldn't give a shit what they did.
Pay your taxes without complaint. Be a citizen.
Citizenship these days is badly overrated. Medieval serfs got to keep more of their earnings.
They couldn't buy much with them, though, and they didn't have a government that served them in any way except (maybe) to protect them from brigands and other lords. Nor did they have any social and economic mobility, nor much freedom or much of a life. At least some Americans still have that mobility, though much less since the conservatives took over in 1980. What you forget is that quality of life is about more than just your own personal stash of money/wealth.