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I'd like to take the temperature of the forum on the issue.

From personal experience with two War Baby grandparents ('41 and '43), I'd consider the '43 grandmother to have a basically Boomer disposition, while my '41 grandfather was very much a Silent. So I'm convinced the earliest Prophets can be born during a Crisis.

And based on that personal experience (my Boomer-esque War Baby grandmother's being born in 1943, fourteen years after Black Tuesday), and holding to a 2006 Fourth Turning start date, I'd bet that the cohort of 2020 will look awfully Prophet-like when they've grown up.
They are called cuspers
(08-28-2016, 10:00 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]They are called cuspers

I know what they're called, but not all Cuspers are created equal. Like I mentioned, first-wave War Babies in my experience were all pretty typically Silent-ish, while second-wave War Babies were more Prophet-like.

My grandparents were both quite conservative, but they fought constantly; my grandfather was demure and fairly non-judgmental, while my grandmother loosed the fateful lightning every chance she got. "Cuspiness" is probably something like a glass-half-full situation, where when you get to 50.01% you're pretty much there.
(08-28-2016, 10:04 PM)Einzige Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-28-2016, 10:00 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]They are called cuspers

I know what they're called, but not all Cuspers are created equal. Like I mentioned, first-wave War Babies in my experience were all pretty typically Silent-ish, while second-wave War Babies were more Prophet-like.

My grandparents were both quite conservative, but they fought constantly; my grandfather was demure and fairly non-judgmental, while my grandmother loosed the fateful lightning every chance she got. "Cuspiness" is probably something like a glass-half-full situation, where when you get to 50.01% you're pretty much there.

Cuspers can be a mixed lot. Some more like one than the other. Location also is important. In America people would call me a cusper. But in NZ that is not the case. Foreigners bring that diversity with them among other things.
Poor Quiets. They're already being skipped over for the next Idealist generation in half the threads on their forum.
1982-1999: Millennials (usually children of Baby Boomers and older Gen Xers)
2000-2017: Homelanders (usually children of Gen Xers and older Millennials)
2018-2035: Neo-Prophets (usually children of Millennials and older Homelanders)
I was born in Nov. 1944 so I would definitely be considered a cusper. In fact I have contemplated at times writing a book about it, the title being "On the Cusp of the Boom". I have however determined that I tend to have more Silent characteristics than Boom ones.
(07-25-2019, 03:58 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: [ -> ]I was born in Nov. 1944 so I would definitely be considered a cusper. In fact I have contemplated at times writing a book about it, the title being "On the Cusp of the Boom". I have however  determined that I tend to have more Silent characteristics than Boom ones.

I don't know if you'd agree with my four-year cusp zones, but here they are:

1944-1947: Silent/Boomer cusp
1962-1965: Boomer/X cusp
1980-1983: Xennials
1998-2001: Zillennials
2016-2019: Alphazeds
They'll be born during the last two years of the Crisis, but since nobody knows when that'll be... y'know that I think that the Crisis hasn't even really begun yet.
(08-14-2019, 07:57 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: [ -> ]They'll be born during the last two years of the Crisis, but since nobody knows when that'll be... y'know that I think that the Crisis hasn't even really begun yet.

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion right away. For example, Some people on here would agree that the start of 3T took place in late 1980 with the Reagan vs. Carter election and the assassination of John Lennon. 1981 borns and some born in late 1980 were born after the start of 3T, but I (as well as most people on here probably) still consider them as being Generation X.
You didn't even understand how Generations and Turnings are related.
(08-14-2019, 07:57 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: [ -> ]They'll be born during the last two years of the Crisis, but since nobody knows when that'll be... y'know that I think that the Crisis hasn't even really begun yet.

We are in the Crisis, as the foundation of American democracy is under attack from the inside, including from people who have had all the advantages all their lives. At least in the last Crisis, the worst heels were in Berlin, Rome, Tokyo, and Zagreb -- maybe Budapest at times. Not until 1943 were the Axis Powers doomed, and not until 1944 did the Allies deliver the death blows. 

History moved fast beginning with Operation Uranus (Soviet pincer assaults besieging the German Sixth Army in Stalingrad) and culminating with the Japanese surrender on the USS Missouri.  

As a foretaste. think of the scene in the great movie The Wizard of Oz  in which the Wicked Witch of the West takes a burning broom to the Scarecrow... just as you think that the witch is about to extend things out indefinitely, Dorothy extinguishes the fire on the Scarecrow and gets water on the witch. You should know the rest. That is how a Crisis comes to an end, or at least to the beginning of the end after which all else is anticlimax. Within ten months of D-Day, Antichrist Hitler was in Hell. History may not resolve quite as swiftly as a feature film, but it can resolve with amazing speed. 

One election may be enough. That is how we do things in America.
I'd say that Hitler was toast the moment the US were at war with him.