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I'm very much looking forward to this.

And I wonder where they will draw the birth-cohort boundary between the two - and how old the oldest Xer will be.
I will just be interested in who won and why (being this one is viewed in a generational way) as I do not like the cut throat way they behave even to their own "team" members. Load of shit imho.
I have watched all but the first season of Survivor, and I'm really looking forward to this one. I can easily see the Xer's getting fed up with the Millennials sitting around camp while they do all the work.
(09-18-2016, 09:22 AM)Bronsin Wrote: [ -> ]I have watched all but the first season of Survivor, and I'm really looking forward to this one. I can easily see the Xer's getting fed up with the Millennials sitting around camp while they do all the work.

If you are an xer you should remember when boomers were saying you guys were the lazy good for nothing arseholes. You are just repeating the ignorance. Elders also said the same of boomers in their youth.
(09-18-2016, 04:09 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 09:22 AM)Bronsin Wrote: [ -> ]I have watched all but the first season of Survivor, and I'm really looking forward to this one. I can easily see the Xer's getting fed up with the Millennials sitting around camp while they do all the work.

If you are an xer you should remember when boomers were saying you guys were the lazy good for nothing arseholes. You are just repeating the ignorance. Elders also said the same of boomers in their youth.

Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are.  Millies have tended to be a mixed bag, those with a clue tend to work out well.  When a Millie suffers from the snowflake syndrome then they can be quite insufferable.
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 04:09 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 09:22 AM)Bronsin Wrote: [ -> ]I have watched all but the first season of Survivor, and I'm really looking forward to this one. I can easily see the Xer's getting fed up with the Millennials sitting around camp while they do all the work.

If you are an xer you should remember when boomers were saying you guys were the lazy good for nothing arseholes. You are just repeating the ignorance. Elders also said the same of boomers in their youth.

Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are.  Millies have tended to be a mixed bag, those with a clue tend to work out well.  When a Millie suffers from the snowflake syndrome then they can be quite insufferable.

Well, I certainly know what Twenge says and Mark Bauerlein about us with his book "The Dumbest Generation." What makes that laughable as he is of the baby boomer generation which Neil Howe stated declined in records of SAT scores at the same age. Probably partly due to being too busy protesting or getting high or joining cults. (Note I said partly due which implies I know other things would have contributed as well). My mother left school to go for the money for instance. Something I cannot do personally. I have to enjoy what I do as I do not have the patience to put up with anything else. As for mixed bag, well that can be said of any generation really. Every generation has its insufferable and its gems. It is just the loudest ones are noticed more and they tend to reveal the terrible side of their generation and their own nasty traits.
(09-18-2016, 11:47 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 04:09 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 09:22 AM)Bronsin Wrote: [ -> ]I have watched all but the first season of Survivor, and I'm really looking forward to this one. I can easily see the Xer's getting fed up with the Millennials sitting around camp while they do all the work.

If you are an xer you should remember when boomers were saying you guys were the lazy good for nothing arseholes. You are just repeating the ignorance. Elders also said the same of boomers in their youth.

Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are.  Millies have tended to be a mixed bag, those with a clue tend to work out well.  When a Millie suffers from the snowflake syndrome then they can be quite insufferable.

Well, I certainly know what Twenge says and Mark Bauerlein about us with his book "The Dumbest Generation." What makes that laughable as he is of the baby boomer generation which Neil Howe stated declined in records of SAT scores at the same age. Probably partly due to being too busy protesting or getting high or joining cults. (Note I said partly due which implies I know other things would have contributed as well). My mother left school to go for the money for instance. Something I cannot do personally. I have to enjoy what I do as I do not have the patience to put up with anything else. As for mixed bag, well that can be said of any generation really. Every generation has its insufferable and its gems. It is just the loudest ones are noticed more and they tend to reveal the terrible side of their generation and their own nasty traits.

Take from someone in a position to know, the Boomers are on the average a complete loss and the years don't seem to have improved them much.  They definitely do not have the competence of their GI parents which is also a big part of the problem.

The Millies all too often need to have things spoonfed to them because the school system here doesn't teach them to think.  After a few years of dealing with reality they start to correct that problem.
(09-18-2016, 11:59 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:47 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 04:09 PM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 09:22 AM)Bronsin Wrote: [ -> ]I have watched all but the first season of Survivor, and I'm really looking forward to this one. I can easily see the Xer's getting fed up with the Millennials sitting around camp while they do all the work.

If you are an xer you should remember when boomers were saying you guys were the lazy good for nothing arseholes. You are just repeating the ignorance. Elders also said the same of boomers in their youth.

Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are.  Millies have tended to be a mixed bag, those with a clue tend to work out well.  When a Millie suffers from the snowflake syndrome then they can be quite insufferable.

Well, I certainly know what Twenge says and Mark Bauerlein about us with his book "The Dumbest Generation." What makes that laughable as he is of the baby boomer generation which Neil Howe stated declined in records of SAT scores at the same age. Probably partly due to being too busy protesting or getting high or joining cults. (Note I said partly due which implies I know other things would have contributed as well). My mother left school to go for the money for instance. Something I cannot do personally. I have to enjoy what I do as I do not have the patience to put up with anything else. As for mixed bag, well that can be said of any generation really. Every generation has its insufferable and its gems. It is just the loudest ones are noticed more and they tend to reveal the terrible side of their generation and their own nasty traits.

Take from someone in a position to know, the Boomers are on the average a complete loss and the years don't seem to have improved them much.  They definitely do not have the competence of their GI parents which is also a big part of the problem.

The Millies all too often need to have things spoonfed to them because the school system here doesn't teach them to think.  After a few years of dealing with reality they start to correct that problem.
I totally agree with that. We have that same problem here. They teach us what to think and the school system (at least for some schools) the quality of education is very poor. Even some tertiary level schools they do not give you the skills you need to realistically prepare you for the real world. Which is why after chatting to the CEO of a gaming company he told me exactly what I needed to be considered as a concept artist. So I realized despite the fact I have a  Bachelor degree they did not tell me the truth about my level of skill. Not to be knocked down I learned, scouted around for the best school to prepare me for what I want to do and have been accepted. I enroll tomorrow. It certainly has told me to not trust every school to tell me the truth nor prepare me for the real world. Suddenly certificates and degrees mean nothing when one has actually been ill prepared. The positive though is that degree has been useful to get me where I am today. Accepted at one of the best universities in the world which focuses on preparing you for the industry as well as getting students loads of contacts. I needed this year to give me the hard knocks to knock some sense into me and point me in the right direction. I am grateful for it. Being pampered and lied to never taught me a thing.
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are.  Millies have tended to be a mixed bag, those with a clue tend to work out well.  When a Millie suffers from the snowflake syndrome then they can be quite insufferable.

"Millennials with a clue", in reality meaning "Millennials who agree with me". Rolleyes
(09-19-2016, 07:05 AM)Odin Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are.  Millies have tended to be a mixed bag, those with a clue tend to work out well.  When a Millie suffers from the snowflake syndrome then they can be quite insufferable.

"Millennials with a clue", in reality meaning "Millennials who agree with me". Rolleyes

Not necessarily, I have to deal with them in the workplace.  There are a surprising number of them that simply don't know what they are doing and refuse to learn.
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are. 

Only when deserved. Like all generations, Xers have their good and bad points, in my opinion. Generalizing about generations "always" has its pitfalls. But I would not say that half of Gen Xers are "deplorables."
(09-19-2016, 01:04 PM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are. 

Only when deserved. Like all generations, Xers have their good and bad points, in my opinion. Generalizing about generations "always" has its pitfalls. But I would not say that half of Gen Xers are "deplorables."

You don't like anything about Generation X like the music, culture and the fact that we don't worship the Boomers because of their destructive behavior and massive egos.  That attitude is very common among Boomers with Eric the Obtuse being an extreme example of these characteristics  to the point of being a caricature.
(09-19-2016, 12:57 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-19-2016, 07:05 AM)Odin Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are.  Millies have tended to be a mixed bag, those with a clue tend to work out well.  When a Millie suffers from the snowflake syndrome then they can be quite insufferable.

"Millennials with a clue", in reality meaning "Millennials who agree with me". Rolleyes

Not necessarily, I have to deal with them in the workplace.  There are a surprising number of them that simply don't know what they are doing and refuse to learn.

Half of Millies where I work do just fine.  The other half are ear budded/texting slackers.  I'm glad I don't have the snowflake variant though.
(09-19-2016, 01:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are. 

Only when deserved. Like all generations, Xers have their good and bad points, in my opinion. Generalizing about generations "always" has its pitfalls. But I would not say that half of Gen Xers are "deplorables."

I'm not a deplorable, but I am quite cynical and pecuniary man. Cool Big Grin Tongue

Some Boomers like Hillary and Trump are clueless clowns.
(09-20-2016, 12:30 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-19-2016, 01:04 PM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2016, 11:36 PM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]Truth is, they were saying much worse things about Generation X and in the case of Eric the Obtuse and those like him they still are. 

Only when deserved. Like all generations, Xers have their good and bad points, in my opinion. Generalizing about generations "always" has its pitfalls. But I would not say that half of Gen Xers are "deplorables."

You don't like anything about Generation X like the music, culture and the fact that we don't worship the Boomers because of their destructive behavior and massive egos.  That attitude is very common among Boomers with Eric the Obtuse being an extreme example of these characteristics  to the point of being a caricature.
Big Grin caricature heh like i have been called a caricature of a millennial. But that is why I do not get along with Eric. He is non inclusive to the point of being "deplorable" about it. You are correct in your observation of him. He has said he likes SOME of the music but not a lot. He has said all generations have their good points and the bad. So, as i only go by what he says i will give him that. But he does tend to focus on the negative a lot. He can not like something but hell does he always have to keep bashing them over the head about it? I only bring it up when he starts on his cultural superiority crusade. The bully hates karma.
(09-20-2016, 01:51 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]I only bring it up when he starts on his cultural superiority crusade. The bully hates karma.

Now you know one of the main reasons the seventies was a decade I would have just as soon done without.  You think they are bad now you should have seen them in their prime.  What a freak show that was.
(09-20-2016, 02:41 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-20-2016, 01:51 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]I only bring it up when he starts on his cultural superiority crusade. The bully hates karma.

Now you know one of the main reasons the seventies was a decade I would have just as soon done without.  You think they are bad now you should have seen them in their prime.  What a freak show that was.

Hahahahaha freak show hahaha! I dread to think! It would have of course only have been some of them though. But the worst are always the loudest.
(09-20-2016, 02:44 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-20-2016, 02:41 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-20-2016, 01:51 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]I only bring it up when he starts on his cultural superiority crusade. The bully hates karma.

Now you know one of the main reasons the seventies was a decade I would have just as soon done without.  You think they are bad now you should have seen them in their prime.  What a freak show that was.

Hahahahaha freak show hahaha! I dread to think! It would have of course only have been some of them though. But the worst are always the loudest.

Here are some choice images from Woodstock in 1969.  The difficulty is that this kind of crap was happening everywhere and unfortunately many Hippies picked Oregon as a good place to set up their communes.  That is how we ended up with the Rajneesh who many refer to as Osho.  Probably so people won't associate him with the problems his circus sideshow created.





As you might expect they left one hell of a mess.  Woodstock really is a metaphor for the Boomer generation.  They get to have one hell of a party and everyone else has to clean up the mess.

Here is what the news reports of the time had to say about it.





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(09-20-2016, 04:27 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-20-2016, 02:44 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-20-2016, 02:41 AM)Galen Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-20-2016, 01:51 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]I only bring it up when he starts on his cultural superiority crusade. The bully hates karma.

Now you know one of the main reasons the seventies was a decade I would have just as soon done without.  You think they are bad now you should have seen them in their prime.  What a freak show that was.

Hahahahaha freak show hahaha! I dread to think! It would have of course only have been some of them though. But the worst are always the loudest.

Here are some choice images from Woodstock in 1969.  Trouble is this kind of crap was happening everywhere and unfortunately many Hippies picked Oregon as a good place to set up their communes.  That is how we ended up with the Rajneesh who many refer to as Osho.  Probably so people won't associate him with the problems his circus sideshow created.





As you might expect they left one hell of a mess.  Woodstock really is a metaphor for the Boomer generation.  They get to have one hell of a party and everyone else has to clean up the mess.

Here is what the news reports of the time had to say about it.





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When the issue of Woodstock is raised I have to consider several things. I watched the videos and considered what they have to say as well as my reaction. I also have seen the recording of woodstock. The whole recording. Rather long but I saw it. I was shocked as I have never seen my parents generation act that way before. But I do need to also keep in mind that this was also a subculture of the boomer generation. Others just went about their daily lives not behaving in this manner. I listen to other boomers who are also early boomers and we do need to keep in mind that this would be early boomers. Not later ones who would have been too young for such an event like my mother who was born 1957. She would have been 11or 12 depending on the month. Probably 11 years old. So we need to address it would have been earlier boomers and not all early boomers fit the mold.

The mess would have been due to the fact there were so many and they had not prepared for so many to show up so they were not prepared naturally for the amount of mess they would create. Not enough bins. I do however think it would have been courteous of them to stay around and clean up after.

I have nothing against people using drugs although my initial reaction to the recording of woodstock when they were handing out P was total shock. It is their body to do as they wish with after all. However I do know some of them had wee children and I do think the parents had no right to bring their children to an event like that unsupervised and watching their parents get drunk, high and probably watching them have sex (i saw some doing that in the video). They should be caring for the child, not have the child run wild like that unsupervised and playing parent to the parents. This i saw as well in the video. Children caring for their parents. It sickened me. But I will not blame the whole thing on boomers. This does not include all boomers. Certainly not younger ones who would be too young for this event or the behaviours portrayed which by the sounds of things from the reporters despite what I have mentioned above they were kindly, peaceful and mannerly which I do know actually happened for i saw the video of woodstock.  So there are the good and the bad of my analysis of the event as well as thinking of how they simply were not prepared for so many concert goers...but I do also mention they should have picked up their mess or help to pick up all the mess. Anyway that is the best analysis I can think of currently. Many have moved on from such days. I say many as some still think they are back then and think we should be back then too.
(09-20-2016, 04:58 AM)taramarie Wrote: [ -> ]When the issue of Woodstock is raised I have to consider several things. I watched the videos and considered what they have to say as well as my reaction. I also have seen the recording of woodstock. The whole recording. Rather long but I saw it. I was shocked as I have never seen my parents generation act that way before. But I do need to also keep in mind that this was also a subculture of the boomer generation. Others just went about their daily lives not behaving in this manner. I listen to other boomers who are also early boomers and we do need to keep in mind that this would be early boomers. Not later ones who would have been too young for such an event like my mother who was born 1957. She would have been 11or 12 depending on the month. Probably 11 years old. So we need to address it would have been earlier boomers and not all early boomers fit the mold.

The mess would have been due to the fact there were so many and they had not prepared for so many to show up so they were not prepared naturally for the amount of mess they would create. Not enough bins. I do however think it would have been courteous of them to stay around and clean up after.

I have nothing against people using drugs although my initial reaction to the recording of woodstock when they were handing out P was total shock. It is their body to do as they wish with after all. However I do know some of them had wee children and I do think the parents had no right to bring their children to an event like that unsupervised and watching their parents get drunk, high and probably watching them have sex (i saw some doing that in the video). They should be caring for the child, not have the child run wild like that unsupervised and playing parent to the parents. This i saw as well in the video. Children caring for their parents. It sickened me. But I will not blame the whole thing on boomers. This does not include all boomers. Certainly not younger ones who would be too young for this event or the behaviours portrayed which by the sounds of things from the reporters despite what I have mentioned above they were kindly, peaceful and mannerly which I do know actually happened for i saw the video of woodstock.  So there are the good and the bad of my analysis of the event as well as thinking of how they simply were not prepared for so many concert goers...but I do also mention they should have picked up their mess or help to pick up all the mess. Anyway that is the best analysis I can think of currently. Many have moved on from such days. I say many as some still think they are back then and think we should be back then too.

This kind of crap was far more common than is generally acknowledged.  My parents were not hippies, thank God for small favors, but even they were affected by the culture these assholes created.  That self-absorbed, damn the consequences attitude has caused Xers more than a few problems.  Of which, the divorce epidemic was only one of the problems.  This is why so many of us are very good at surviving the stupid.  Those of us with Lost and GI relatives tended to fare better.

It is hard for you to understand what living in a time when the nominal adults were acting like children and busy breaking everything.
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