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1:51 into this video is a great example of the "boomer coaching millenial" dynamic.  Streisand knows exactly what she wants, and Ridley just does it.  I've cued it to the relevant portion.

(11-07-2016, 01:16 AM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]1:51 into this video is a great example of the "boomer coaching millenial" dynamic.  Streisand knows exactly what she wants, and Ridley just does it.  I've cued it to the relevant portion.

-- don't mean to pick nits but Babs is  a Silent,  same age as Bernie


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbra_Streisand

Streisand was born in 1942, which makes her a boomer by Strauss/Howe theory. Sanders was born in 1941, which may make him either a silent or a boomer.

According to the Lifecourse website, Silent Generation was from '25 to '42.  http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/t...ation.html

Which makes both Bernie and Babs Silent Generation, but just barely.  They both have prophet characteristics, to be sure.

(11-07-2016, 12:54 PM)gabrielle Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Lifecourse website, Silent Generation was from '25 to '42.  http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/t...ation.html

Which makes both Bernie and Babs Silent Generation, but just barely.  They both have prophet characteristics, to be sure.

Strauss & Howe put the generational breakpoints a few years earlier than the demographic  definitions.  For example, the demographic definition says that people who are born in 1964 are still boomers.  From a generational cohort characteristic perspective, the Strauss & Howe definitions work better.

(11-07-2016, 02:14 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-07-2016, 12:54 PM)gabrielle Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Lifecourse website, Silent Generation was from '25 to '42.  http://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/t...ation.html

Which makes both Bernie and Babs Silent Generation, but just barely.  They both have prophet characteristics, to be sure.

Strauss & Howe put the generational breakpoints a few years earlier than the demographic  definitions.  For example, the demographic definition says that people who are born in 1964 are still boomers.  From a generational cohort characteristic perspective, the Strauss & Howe definitions work better.

So, the definitions on lifecourse.com are not Strauss and Howe's definitions?  I thought it was Neil Howe's website.

Sorry, you're right.  My observation has been that 1942 births are almost always seem more boomer like, and I accept the "not old enough to understand what was going on in the crisis war" explanation for that generational changeover, so I guess I've reassigned the break point to be a year or two earlier in my mind.

(11-07-2016, 03:11 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry, you're right.  My observation has been that 1942 births are almost always seem more boomer like, and I accept the "not old enough to understand what was going on in the crisis war" explanation for that generational changeover, so I guess I've reassigned the break point to be a year or two earlier in my mind.

In general the Silent tended to start out GI-like and tend toward Boom tendencies. Streisand did not stay very GI-like very long.