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(11-02-2020, 07:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]I might disagree on one or two states (and I am not saying which)...
Why not?
(11-03-2020, 09:32 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]The Sabato prediction does jive with JDG's, so it looks like Mr. Glick has looked beyond bias this time and agrees with brower. My salute as well.

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Although I appreciate being considered a good sport, my predictions are not in line with 538, Sabato, or Cook. My original prediction from MAR 2016 (most of it produced in JAN 2018) gives Trump 48.63% of the vote and about 293 EVs. The "48.00%" and "45.93%" scenarios are for informational purposes. I suspect that that Trump's share of the nationwide popular vote is more than 45.93% (538 gives him 45.4%) but less than 49% (I'm pretty sure Trump will get better than Carter's 41% and 97 EVs al la PBrower2a). It all depends on how accurate the polls are. Silver rightly points out that the polls in 2016 were off by less than 2%. I point out that 1% made a pretty big difference. It's a little like doing brain surgery and being off by just an inch. Oops. Have the pollsters learned their lesson, or made them worse? We shall have a better idea in about 10 or 11 hours. I'll be going over to friends to watch. There will literally be popcorn.

BTW, Silver puts the miscellaneous vote at only 1.2% instead of my predicted 1.6%. If accurate, that would knock Trump's chances of winning a state or district by a plurality somewhat. I don't have time to do the math.




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This next isn't original analysis on my part, but my prediction for the Senate is 50 R's, 48 D's, 2 I's. My reasoning: If you check 538 from 2018:

 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=midterms-header 

... and 2016:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=2016-forecast 

and 2014 (you'll have to take my word for it), R's with over 50% on election day don't seem to lose, but there are usually 2 or 3 R's with less than 50% who do win. Has 538 improved their methodology? I'd bet only so far. Thus, 50Rs.

And BTW, what's with "this time"? My analysis is always based on facts. Would you like to provide any contrary examples? I have a long track record of unbiased analysis. I used to get paid it. My suspicion is that you just don't appreciate it. Tongue
(11-03-2020, 02:12 PM)JDG 66 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2020, 07:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]I might disagree on one or two states (and I am not saying which)...
Why not?

Making a prediction on such will be pointless in a very short time. 

OK -- I think That Florida will be "Lean Biden", and not "Lean Trump", which is actually two categories. I have seen much polling of Florida, and although most of it is close, about everything gives Joe Biden an edge over Donald Trump.
It looks as if fascism is on the roll in America.

As Benjamin Franklin said, people who surrender their essential liberties for a little temporary security get neither.

I'll go further: people who surrender their liberty for economic gain deserve poverty and tyranny.
Donald Trump has shown twice that visceral appeals work in politics. That is enough.

If he wins, then I give up all hope in electoral politics to solve anything in America. I regret that I lack the means with which to emigrate.
If the polls are so far wrong as they appear to be in many states, then it seems that Michael Moore and Trumpists were right about the hidden Trump vote. Moore said that anyone who calls a trumpist for their opinion will be presumed to be from the deep state and they won't answer.
(11-04-2020, 01:42 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Donald Trump has shown twice that visceral appeals work in politics. That is enough.

If he wins, then I give up all hope in electoral politics to solve anything in America. I regret that I lack the means with which to emigrate.

If you could emigrate, where would you go?
(11-04-2020, 12:56 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]It looks as if fascism is on the roll in America.

As Benjamin Franklin said, people who surrender their essential liberties for a little temporary security get neither.

I'll go further: people who surrender their liberty for economic gain deserve poverty and tyranny.

The first of which they have been doing here willingly to my shock here in slovakia. Which makes me want to go back to new zealand. There they have all liberties still.
(11-03-2020, 02:49 PM)JDG 66 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-03-2020, 09:32 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]The Sabato prediction does jive with JDG's, so it looks like Mr. Glick has looked beyond bias this time and agrees with brower. My salute as well.

??????????????? 


Although I appreciate being considered a good sport, my predictions are not in line with 538, Sabato, or Cook. My original prediction from MAR 2016 (most of it produced in JAN 2018) gives Trump 48.63% of the vote and about 293 EVs. The "48.00%" and "45.93%" scenarios are for informational purposes. I suspect that that Trump's share of the nationwide popular vote is more than 45.93% (538 gives him 45.4%) but less than 49% (I'm pretty sure Trump will get better than Carter's 41% and 97 EVs al la PBrower2a). It all depends on how accurate the polls are. Silver rightly points out that the polls in 2016 were off by less than 2%. I point out that 1% made a pretty big difference. It's a little like doing brain surgery and being off by just an inch. Oops. Have the pollsters learned their lesson, or made them worse? We shall have a better idea in about 10 or 11 hours. I'll be going over to friends to watch. There will literally be popcorn.

BTW, Silver puts the miscellaneous vote at only 1.2% instead of my predicted 1.6%. If accurate, that would knock Trump's chances of winning a state or district by a plurality somewhat. I don't have time to do the math.




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This next isn't original analysis on my part, but my prediction for the Senate is 50 R's, 48 D's, 2 I's. My reasoning: If you check 538 from 2018:

 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=midterms-header 

... and 2016:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/?ex_cid=2016-forecast 

and 2014 (you'll have to take my word for it), R's with over 50% on election day don't seem to lose, but there are usually 2 or 3 R's with less than 50% who do win. Has 538 improved their methodology? I'd bet only so far. Thus, 50Rs.

And BTW, what's with "this time"? My analysis is always based on facts. Would you like to provide any contrary examples? I have a long track record of unbiased analysis. I used to get paid it. My suspicion is that you just don't appreciate it. Tongue

I just don't see it much, considering your previous posts. Your premises are often biased and off the mark.

But I thought in a previous post you predicted Trump would get 217 electoral votes, which agreed with brower's. You didn't mention that in the above ramble. I was glad you didn't automatically predict a Trump win. Right now that's just about the electoral votes that he has, but he stands to gain at least 15 more from North Carolina and maybe more. But he won't get 293 unless he can get Barrett to give them to him. That would be one person deciding the election instead of 150 million Americans. Real democracy? NOT.

Trump and the Republicans are doing better than I and brower thought, no doubt. From my point of view, that is tragic. So far, Biden is winning the popular vote by a greater margin than Hillary, barely (over 3%), but California ballot counting is stuck because of lots of drop-off mail-in ballots that have to be verified. New York has been coming in slow too, as well as Nevada and PA. Having been a poll worker many times, I can testify how many people drop off their mail-in ballots at the polling place on election day. It has been much more this time. So, only 66% of the CA vote is in. It has been trending 65% Biden, so I expect more votes from the largest state will add to Biden's popular vote margin.  It could end up as about 5%. That would mean Trump gets about 46-47%. Your prediction said more that 45.93%, so it will be just above that.
(11-04-2020, 01:42 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Donald Trump has shown twice that visceral appeals work in politics. That is enough.

If he wins, then I give up all hope in electoral politics to solve anything in America. I regret that I lack the means with which to emigrate.


Isn't it amazing what many of us can say when things look their bleakest? Or is that me?
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