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FWIW, I doubt that any country has an accurate count of COVID-19 deaths. Unless there is reason to suspect the virus, pneumonia is just that. The prevalence of asymptomatic COVID patients (if that's even a correct term for it) makes it worse. There is no single Typhoid Mary this time.
CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?
(04-21-2020, 04:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?

I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.
Clergy do not get free passes for crimes. The offense in this case is an assault.
I did arrange for a pneumonia vaccination. Thursday. I suspect that COVID-19 might do much of its killing through pneumonia as a complication. My encounters with respiratory infections get harder every year.
(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2020, 04:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?

I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

Not clear at all. That was a hard hit enough area that many are seeing the problem. Seeing things through a materialistic economic perspective only and you miss a lot.
Frontline on PBS tonight will have a lot of info on the virus. Rendezevir appears to have potential as a treatment that allows people to recover.
(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2020, 04:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?

I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

No, governors who do the right thing will not lose elections.

Louisiana was hard hit but cases and deaths are declining relative to other states now. Thanks goodness this red state has a blue governor.

https://www.ksla.com/2020/04/20/watch-li...his-state/
It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.
Here we go again:

1 American Civil War 1861–65 750,000 (est.)(U.S./Confederate)[86] 520 31,443,000 2.385% (1860)
2 World War II 1941–45 405,399 297 133,402,000 0.307% (1940)
3 World War I 1917–18 116,516 279 103,268,000 0.110% (1920)
4 Vietnam War 1961–75 58,209 11 179,323,175 0.032% (1970)
5 Korean War 1950–53 54,246 45 151,325,000 0.036% (1950)

====== COVID-19, 40K deaths as of 22 April 2020 ======

6 American Revolutionary War 1775–83 25,000 11 2,500,000 1.00% (1780)
7 War of 1812 1812–15 15,000 15 8,000,000 0.207% (1810)
8 Mexican–American War 1846–48 13,283 29 21,406,000 0.057% (1850)
9 Iraq War 2003–11 4,576 2 294,043,000 0.002% (2010)
10 Philippine–American War 1899–1902 4,196 3.8 72,129,001 0.006% (1900)
11 Spanish–American War 1898 2,246 8.9 62,022,250 0.004% (1890)
12 War in Afghanistan 2001–present 2,216 0.36 294,043,000 0.001% (2010)

Nearly 2600 Americans died yesterday of the plague of 2020. If we had a general getting that level of deaths on a daily basis he would be sacked. Armies are usually defeated when they run out of cannon fodder.

Hey, hey, Donald Trump! How many bodies will we need to dump!
(04-22-2020, 02:17 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.
Yep, that would be my state.  My governor also announced today he was letting most businesses reopen on May 5.
(04-21-2020, 05:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

No, governors who do the right thing will not lose elections.

Louisiana was hard hit

Unlike neighboring Texas and Alabama.  Any governor who does worse than Alabama can hardly be doing the "right thing"!
New Orleans did miss shutting down Mardi Gras. That got it started with all sorts of hot spots following that.
(04-22-2020, 11:39 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2020, 05:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

No, governors who do the right thing will not lose elections.

Louisiana was hard hit....

Unlike neighboring Texas and Alabama.  Any governor who does worse than Alabama can hardly be doing the "right thing"!

 Louisiana was hard hit....but cases and deaths are declining relative to other states now. Thanks goodness this red state has a blue governor.
(04-22-2020, 07:49 PM)gabrielle Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2020, 02:17 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.

Yep, that would be my state.  My governor also announced today he was letting most businesses reopen on May 5.

Stay safe.  We value you even if he doesn't.   Sad
(04-23-2020, 02:22 PM)David Horn Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2020, 07:49 PM)gabrielle Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-22-2020, 02:17 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.

Yep, that would be my state.  My governor also announced today he was letting most businesses reopen on May 5.

Stay safe.  We value you even if he doesn't.   Sad

Thank you. Smile
Eleventh Amendment... compels American states to rely upon the federal government for lawsuits against sovereign states.
(04-23-2020, 09:24 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Eleventh Amendment... compels American states to rely upon the federal government for lawsuits against sovereign states.

Quote:The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

This one seems to be written in lawyer speak, and I can't claim to understand it fully. However, I don't quite see how it forbids a state from bringing suit on a foreign state?
(04-23-2020, 10:30 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-23-2020, 09:24 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: [ -> ]Eleventh Amendment... compels American states to rely upon the federal government for lawsuits against sovereign states.

Quote:The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

This one seems to be written in lawyer speak, and I can't claim to understand it fully.  However, I don't quite see how it forbids a state from bringing suit on a foreign state?

Yeah,  It's similar to the difference between "you can't not do this" and "you must do this".  There seems to be a bit of wiggle room in the first version that's not there in the second.
Michigan seems set to relax restrictions upon golf and motor-boating. Probably golf itself and not the "19th hole", the bar and restaurant at the end of the golf game.

It seems reasonable enough.