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Fuck 2006! ha ha. This guy has nothing to tell me, I can tell from what he's talking about. Nothing of interest to me; extremely low brow stuff. But I think the idea that millennial culture started in around 2006 is probably right. I don't know if it sucked any more than what was before then though. Pop had a good period around 2012. From my Boomer point of view, everything started to suck when the Awakening ended and we entered the 3T, or even before. Either 1980 when John Lennon was killed, or late 1984 when Reagan was re-elected. There have been some good movies since then, I can't deny. The ones that win awards, in general deserve it. But culture that is more-broadly available, free to watch or listen to, has pretty much sucked since then, unless you look beyond the fringe of what is popular. I am stuck watching old TV shows, and listening mostly beyond the fringe of popularity. The 3T/4T culture on TV just does not attract me; the characters are thin and contrived; good looking, but little beyond that. But 2006 doesn't suck, actually, just because of the Winter album by Kevin Kendle and the piece "Midwinter." A year that produces this piece can't be all bad. Magnificent! It's like the best pieces of classical music, and like some great late-1T pop instrumentals. It only has been on you tube since 2017, and has only 2300-plus views. That just shows, good stuff is out there, but it has not the slightest relationship to what is popular.



(04-02-2020, 02:24 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]Fuck 2006! ha ha. This guy has nothing to tell me, I can tell from what he's talking about. Nothing of interest to me; extremely low brow stuff. But I think the idea that millennial culture started in around 2006 is probably right. I don't know if it sucked any more than what was before then though. Pop had a good period around 2012. From my Boomer point of view, everything started to suck when the Awakening ended and we entered the 3T, or even before. Either 1980 when John Lennon was killed, or late 1984 when Reagan was re-elected. There have been some good movies since then, I can't deny. The ones that win awards, in general deserve it. But culture that is more-broadly available, free to watch or listen to, has pretty much sucked since then, unless you look beyond the fringe of what is popular. I am stuck watching old TV shows, and listening mostly beyond the fringe of popularity. The 3T/4T culture on TV just does not attract me; the characters are thin and contrived; good looking, but little beyond that. But 2006 doesn't suck, actually, just because of the Winter album by Kevin Kendle and the piece "Midwinter." A year that produces this piece can't be all bad. Magnificent! It's like the best pieces of classical music, and like some great late-1T pop instrumentals. It only has been on you tube since 2017, and has only 2300-plus views. That just shows, good stuff is out there, but it has not the slightest relationship to what is popular.



The "line" for Baby Boomers (mostly the liberal-leaning ones) seems to be 1980 because that was when Reagan got elected.

I'm not really sure about the "line" for conservative-leaning Baby Boomers.
(04-02-2020, 03:25 PM)Ghost Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2020, 02:24 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: [ -> ]Fuck 2006! ha ha. This guy has nothing to tell me, I can tell from what he's talking about. Nothing of interest to me; extremely low brow stuff. But I think the idea that millennial culture started in around 2006 is probably right. I don't know if it sucked any more than what was before then though. Pop had a good period around 2012. From my Boomer point of view, everything started to suck when the Awakening ended and we entered the 3T, or even before. Either 1980 when John Lennon was killed, or late 1984 when Reagan was re-elected. There have been some good movies since then, I can't deny. The ones that win awards, in general deserve it. But culture that is more-broadly available, free to watch or listen to, has pretty much sucked since then, unless you look beyond the fringe of what is popular. I am stuck watching old TV shows, and listening mostly beyond the fringe of popularity. The 3T/4T culture on TV just does not attract me; the characters are thin and contrived; good looking, but little beyond that. But 2006 doesn't suck, actually, just because of the Winter album by Kevin Kendle and the piece "Midwinter." A year that produces this piece can't be all bad. Magnificent! It's like the best pieces of classical music, and like some great late-1T pop instrumentals. It only has been on you tube since 2017, and has only 2300-plus views. That just shows, good stuff is out there, but it has not the slightest relationship to what is popular.



The "line" for Baby Boomers (mostly the liberal-leaning ones) seems to be 1980 because that was when Reagan got elected.

I'm not really sure about the "line" for conservative-leaning Baby Boomers.

Hard to say for sure about that, but conservative baby boomers do seem also to prefer the oldies in music too, and the digital channel programming on broadcast stations, which are mostly watched by older people like me, is almost entirely old shows. The book What's the Matter with Kansas by liberal writer Thomas Frank showed baby boomer conservatives playing late sixties oldies like "Born to be Wild" (1968) blaring from their pickup trucks while going to anti-Jane Fonda rallies and such. Trump himself chose a Rolling Stones oldie as his theme song, which was quite beloved by the liberal-leaning hippie types back in the day ("You Can't Always Get What You Want" from Let it Bleed, 1969). I myself have copies of both of those songs in my collection. I tend to experience that boomers like the same older music whether they are on the left or the right.

Myself I thought some early 1980s rock/pop music was good and interesting. 1984 was a good year.
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