(06-16-2020, 01:47 AM)taramarie Wrote: Education only goes so far, pbrower. Life experience is also education and far more useful as it is real world experience. For instance as an example. I am studying the slovak language. That education can only go so far. Hearing those words used in the real world and learning context, how it is pronounced and done repetitively, that is how that will stick in my head. Education does not equal one is better. Life experience is education also and some people have done bloody well for themselves without degrees. I will give another example. I have a bachelor degree in multimedia design. I studied film and animation. Think i would gain employment? Nope.

Quote:Firstly, the tools i need are in the thousands of dollars. Second of all, in my corner of the world what i trained for, there are not many opportunities for employment. What the fuck is the point of having a bachelor degree if one cannot use it? You need to stop equating education with success on a high horse because it means nothing if you cannot use those skills for building your life around it. It just means i have a big loan around my neck at present. Thankfully i have been lucky recently as my father in law has given me all the tools i need to make a start at what i studied and you know what? He built his company in something he didnt traditionally study in school, but from life experience....he is a successful millionare. Meanwhile my hubby's cousin who never went to school for animation now owns the most successful animation advertisement company in Bratislava and also is a multi millionaire. Give this some thought.

(06-14-2020, 09:27 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(06-14-2020, 07:36 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: So let me be clear.  You live in the CNN bubble, among people who have absolutely no idea what's going on, but sit there are tell each other how clever and intelligent you are, and how the people outside are stupid racist white supremacists.  I listen to all the channels, so I know.  CNN is a sewer, and being in the CNN bubble means that most Trump supporters are far more intelligent than you.

Well, again, if you have a political world view, how wacky you are hasn’t that much to do with intelligence.  If you buy into the CNN perspective or the Fox perspective, you are going to be called an idiot by those who have bought into the opposite regardless.  It does matter if you have a scientific world view, that you check what you are told against reality.  From that perspective, you have do do a lot of fact checking if you get into Fox or Trump.

Quote:Your ignoring or disregarding facts that disagree with your ideology is part of this effect.  If the facts disagree with the ideology, the ideology censors the facts out.  This is not stupidity.  This is how humans use worldviews as a short cut to arrive at solutions to problems or versions of how reality works.  If you can view others as not being stupid, but as having conflicting worldviews, you have the problem of considering how warped your own worldview is. If you make the effort to understand how other's worldviews came into existence, of how their culture solved problems using a particular perspective, you can modify your own worldview to accept the wisdom, with or without caveats that it works better or ill under various conditions that one culture might see regularly, but another does not.

Quote:But if you stick with one perspective, and call any other perspective stupid, you are going to miss a lot.

(06-16-2020, 11:16 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: I rely as much on the AP news wires as possible because they come without analysis. It is impossible to spin mews that comes from blitz reporting. 

(06-16-2020, 10:44 AM)David Horn Wrote: High degrees of education and wealth attainment are neither mutually exclusive nor inclusive.  Yes, some degrees tend to track with high earning, but others don't.  The purpose of an education should be enlightenment, but most of us see the education-earning link instead.

(06-16-2020, 01:13 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(06-16-2020, 10:44 AM)David Horn Wrote: High degrees of education and wealth attainment are neither mutually exclusive nor inclusive.  Yes, some degrees tend to track with high earning, but others don't.  The purpose of an education should be enlightenment, but most of us see the education-earning link instead.

Four years of one's life and putting one's self in considerable debt is a high price to pay for a degree these days.  If it doesn't come with a good shot at employment, this seems like a luxury few can afford.

(06-16-2020, 01:21 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(06-16-2020, 01:13 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(06-16-2020, 10:44 AM)David Horn Wrote: High degrees of education and wealth attainment are neither mutually exclusive nor inclusive.  Yes, some degrees tend to track with high earning, but others don't.  The purpose of an education should be enlightenment, but most of us see the education-earning link instead.

Four years of one's life and putting one's self in considerable debt is a high price to pay for a degree these days.  If it doesn't come with a good shot at employment, this seems like a luxury few can afford.

Sad but true.  I'm not sure we'll ever return to education-as-enlightenment, but we do need to encourage (force?) a bit of old fashioned civics and language education on the general public, or we'll become a nation of Know-Nothings.  Never mind. We already are.

(06-16-2020, 02:29 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: BTW, I recall that I became concerned about making a living during my final year of high school.  One really needs to start thinking about that by that time.

So I can hardly blame people who focus on that by the time of high school graduation.  (Its not their fault that high school has deteriorated, its the fault of their elders).  It seems that for those who choose liberal arts degrees these days, it means starting out with a deep hole of debt and no marketable job skills.

(06-16-2020, 02:29 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: ...  It seems that for those who choose liberal arts degrees these days, it means starting out with a deep hole of debt and no marketable job skills.

Higgenbotham Wrote:> If you asked him about mean reversion, he would probably say
> adjust the mean PE up to 22 and carry on. Also, not to worry, LEI
> will mean revert next month, following the stock market.

• Nationwide protests in India demand revenge against China
  
• What happened in Ladakh on Monday evening?
  
• The core principle of Generational Dynamics
  
• Brief list of Chinese Communist Party crises
  

• 20 Indian soldiers were killed.
  
• There's no information on the number of soldiers injured.
  
• There's no statement on how the clashes started.
  
• There's no statement on how the clashes escalated.
  
• The Indian army says that China also suffered casualties,
  but China has not confirmed any casualties. According to some
  reports, about 40 Chinese soldiers were killed.
  
• No guns were fired by either side. Both sides are honoring
  a decades-old agreement that everyone be unarmed. Firing a gun
  would be a declaration of war.
  
• The Indian Army says that no soldiers were captured. However,
  early Friday morning there were reports that the Chinese released
  10 captured Indian soldiers.

• Dozens of countries are blaming China for purposely spreading
  the Wuhan Coronavirus (Covid-19) to other countries, so that China
  wouldn't have to deal with it alone. Attempts by China to blame the
  United States have backfired. This is a much bigger problem than you
  might think, since it attacks the competency of Xi Jinping.
  
• And now, China is facing a major new outbreak of Covid-19 in
  Beijing, after having declared the city to be free of the virus.
  
• North Korea's government appears to be increasingly chaotic,
  and an unstable North Korean government is a big problem for the CCP.
  
• The India-China border crisis in Ladakh is growing.
  
• Hong Kong pro-democracy protesters are starting up again, after
  being quiet because of Covid-19. The new proposed security bill is
  provoking unrest in Hong Kong, and a great deal of international
  concern.
  
• Taiwan pro-independence activists are becoming emboldened
  by the situation in Hong Kong.
  
• China is receiving increased international condemnation for
  the Uighur concentration camps in Xinjiang province.
  
• One issue that's seldom talked about is that many African
  countries have huge debt obligations to the Chinese, thanks
  to the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Debt Trap Diplomacy,
  and because of the Covid-19 crises, many countries are missing
  their debt payments. These countries are pressuring China to
  forgive or postpone much of the debt. Laughably, the Chinese are
  asking the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and other international
  organizations to bail out these African countries, so that they
  can make their payments to China.

• Ladakh / Galwan Valley: Image appears to show nail-studded rods used in India-China brawl (BBC, 18-Jun-2020)
  
• Anti-China Protests Across India, Delhi's Defence Colony Declares 'War' (New Delhi TV, 18-Jun-2020)
  
• India should curb ‘boycott China’ voices after border clash (Global Times, Beijing, 17-Jun-2020)
  
• Fighters, warships moved to forward bases after bloodiest day in Ladakh (India Times, 18-Jun-2020)
  
• WHO map shows parts of Ladakh as Chinese territory (India Times, 29-Apr-2020)
  
• PLA Death Squads Hunted Down Indian Troops in Galwan in Savage Execution Spree, Say Survivors (News18, India, 18-Jun-2020)
  
• Indian MPs demand government take revenge on China after photographs emerge of spiked club used in clash (Telegraph, London, 18-Jun-2020)
  
• China releases 10 Indian soldiers after border battle (AFP, 19-Jun-2020)

• China and India mobilize thousands of troops along border in Ladakh (13-Jun-2020)
  
  
• Generational Theory: Is nuclear war with China inevitable? (17-May-2020)
  

Navigator Wrote:> I thought it might help explain my points of view if I explained a
> bit how I came to Generational Dynamics, and how my views align
> (or do not align) with this system/philosophy.

> As a hobbyist historian, I found it curious that the major events
> in US History seemed to follow an 80 year cycle. 80 years between
> the Revolution and the Civil War. 80 years between the Civil War
> and World War Two. To me, things like this are not chance.

> I believe that at the most fundamental level, there is either a
> “Higher Power” or everything happens “by chance”. I think that if
> you don’t believe in a “Higher Power” then you believe that the
> Universe/world/mankind were created “by chance”, the so-called
> random events that would need to occur for life to exist.

> Personally, I believe that there is a “Higher Power”.
> Furthermore, I believe that this “Higher Power’s” greatest
> creation is not celestial bodies or orbiting planets, but rather
> the History of this World.

> So, when I looked at the cycles that seemed to be occurring, I
> found that John had developed a good model for explaining the
> stages of the repeating cycle and how different
> nationalities/cultures can be in different stages at any given
> point in time.

> I was further enamored of John’s distillation of current world
> events. His daily articles usually had more insight into what was
> actually happening than bundles of newspapers and innumerable
> websites. BTW, I miss being able to read new ones every day,
> though I certainly understand why John has had to cut back.

> I am in agreement with John over the next basic steps, financial
> calamity and World War.

> However, I do think, in contrast to John, that the “other side” in
> the war will be a China/Russia main alliance. I, personally,
> don’t have an opinion on how the Sunni/Shiite thing will split in
> the war, as I consider both (currently) so far off base as to want
> nothing to do with either faction. I do have hopes for Iran to
> fix itself, as Generational Dynamics predicts, but I think it will
> take Iran’s involvement in a major war for this to happen.

> One of the reasons I believe in the China/Russia alliance is my
> personal belief that Europe is not going to remain untouched by a
> major war between primarily US and China (or, as John predicts,
> between US-Russia and China). In fact, I think that a lot of the
> upcoming future war will take place in Central Europe, and that WW
> III will have a two-front dynamic for the US that WW II did.

> I believe that God (the “Higher Power”) provides guidance and
> clues regarding what is going to happen next. In some way, I
> believe that what will happen next is similar to what happened in
> the last two World Wars.

> To me, the First World War was about the destruction of the great
> absolute monarchies (Russia, Austria-Hungary, and Germany). The
> war saw their demise. There followed, for Central Europe, a
> period of near anarchy, of revolutions, coups, and financial
> chaos. And out of this arose a number of dictators who were far
> worse than the absolute monarchs; Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

> This is roughly what I think will happen with WW III. The next
> world war will utterly destroy the socialist states. They will no
> longer be able to provide for their citizens. This is because the
> financial system as we know it will be completely bankrupted and
> unable to continue after WW III.

> Even with the impending financial meltdown due to current
> conditions, I think that something will be done to keep it limping
> along until the war, and then there will be “emergency
> measures”. But a global war will see the world end up financially
> like the Confederacy at the end or Germany or France in 1919.

> We have allowed the social structures that could compensate for
> these calamities to decay. This will lead to a post WW III period
> for Europe that will be FAR worse than the post WW I period. And
> the individuals with power that will emerge out of this anarchy, I
> believe, will be far worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

> As bad as this sounds, I believe it is all part of the plan of
> history designed by God. I believe that history was designed to
> fulfill a purpose, and that it has a culmination. In the end, I
> believe the culmination results in a “greater good”, but it will
> be an extremely trying and difficult period to experience first
> hand.

Quote:> "Neither is anyone inside our territory nor is any of
> our post captured.

> Twenty of our bravehearts were martyred in Ladakh but not before
> they taught a lesson to those who raised an eye at Bharat Mata.

> I want to assure you that our forces will spare no effort to
> protect our nation. Today, we have the capability that no one can
> look at even an inch of our territory.

> While we have given a free hand to our armed forces,
> diplomatically too we have made our stand clear to China. India
> wants peace and friendship but protecting its sovereignty is
> supreme.

> Because of new infrastructure, especially along the LAC, our
> patrolling capability has gone up. Because of that alertness has
> gone up and events happening on the LAC are being
> reported."