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RE: Hawaii bill would allow gun seizure after hospitalization - pbrower2a - 10-25-2021
(10-25-2021, 04:20 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(10-23-2021, 07:15 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:(10-23-2021, 02:33 AM)Kay Wrote: Do Americans who hate freedom feel like traitors?
There are positive freedoms. One is that I can drive on Interstate 94 in Michigan in the westbound lanes if headed west and in the eastbound lanes if headed east. I do not have any right to drive eastbound in the westbound lanes or westbound in the eastbound lanes. That creates a "negative freedom", or freedom from a negative consequence, as in having no reasonable fear of meeting someone driving the wrong way at a high speed.
To be free from the risk of pointless death from gunfire because a criminal, lunatic, or spouse abuser has a gun is a negative freedom.
Do you get it?
The libertarian spammer will not "get it," no matter how many names the spammer goes by. It's best not to try to discuss anything with this spammer. (S)he/they does not enter into dialogue or discussion.
It's the same message.It never discusses its basic fears.
When I clip and paste I at least leave a source. I know how to use a meme even if it comes from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address or the Bible.
RE: Hawaii bill would allow gun seizure after hospitalization - Eric the Green - 11-02-2021
The only use of guns in the hands of citizens is if they become soldiers for an alternative rebel state, like in the USA civil war. In many societies, tyrants are oppressing and killing the people to stay in power. Why should these thugs have a monopoly on weapons? The Burmese, the Belorussians, the Sudanese, the Syrians, etc, need weapons to fight back.
RE: Hawaii bill would allow gun seizure after hospitalization - David Horn - 11-06-2021
(11-02-2021, 03:47 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The only use of guns in the hands of citizens is if they become soldiers for an alternative rebel state, like in the USA civil war. In many societies, tyrants are oppressing and killing the people to stay in power. Why should these thugs have a monopoly on weapons? The Burmese, the Belorussians, the Sudanese, the Syrians, etc, need weapons to fight back.
Recently at a GOP raly, an attendee asked, "When can we use the guns?" Certainly a telling comment if I've ever heard one.
RE: Hawaii bill would allow gun seizure after hospitalization - beechnut79 - 06-08-2022
Do any of you know if this bill ever got passed? I would imagine that they would have to prove him/her guilty of a felony beyond a reasonable doubt first. But all the mass shooting since that time have put the spotlight on the fact that in many areas you can buy a gun easier than you can obtain a car driver's license. Do any of you see the stupidity in the fact that nowadays nearly all jobs are requiring background check, even the non-employee gig economy platforms, and yet there are many areas where you can purchase a firearm in some states without a background check.
They are now trying to pass a bill in the wake of the Uvalde disaster to raise the age for purchasing an assault weapon from 18 to 21. DUH! Do you really think ordinary people should be able to have assaut style weapons at any age?
It might also be interesting to note that Hawaii was also the first state to raise the minimum age for purchasing tobacco products from 18 to 21. Not all that long ago after it became a federal thing even though technically it is up to the states unless included in the federal Constitution I do believe. But in reality so is Daylight Saving Time. Yet a law was passed in 1966 that made it the law of the land unless individual states chose to opt out, and the start and end dates had to be the same everywhere.