![]() |
Generational Dynamics World View - Printable Version +- Generational Theory Forum: The Fourth Turning Forum: A message board discussing generations and the Strauss Howe generational theory (http://generational-theory.com/forum) +-- Forum: Fourth Turning Forums (http://generational-theory.com/forum/forum-1.html) +--- Forum: Theories Of History (http://generational-theory.com/forum/forum-7.html) +--- Thread: Generational Dynamics World View (/thread-51.html) Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
197
198
199
200
201
202
203
204
205
206
207
208
209
210
211
212
213
214
215
216
217
218
219
220
221
222
223
224
225
226
227
228
229
230
231
232
233
234
235
236
237
238
239
|
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 02-16-2021 ** 16-Feb-2021 World View: Review of my book on Vietnam I am requesting members of this forum to review the current draft of my book on Vietnam, and post any questions or comments or corrections you may have. http://jxenakis.com/pg/ww2010.vnbk.gx113.htm It's a big job, but I promise you that it will be worthwhile, because you'll learn a great deal not only about Vietnam and Buddhism, but also about America and Generational Dynamics. If you refer to a section of the book, then please provide the section title as well as the section number, since the section numbers are subject to change. The draft is now 98% complete. There are still sections that need completion and/or revision, so there will be changes. Thanks, John RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 02-16-2021 ** 16-Feb-2021 World View: Book cover The following is the book cover as it currently stands: ![]() So I have no color coordination skills, so I'm looking for suggestions for colors. The colors that I chose -- purple and blue -- are based on the following that I found on a web site: Basic Vietnamese Color Meanings * Red – happiness, love, luck, celebration * Yellow – wealth, prosperity, royalty, happiness, change * Green – jealousy, lust * Blue – calmness, hope, growth * Purple – nostalgia, sadness, fragility, tenderness * White – purity, death, the end * Black – evil The red rectangle with the yellow star is the Vietnamese flag. The picture is a port in the Mekong Delta near Saigon. I might have used red and yellow for the entire cover, rather than purple and blue, but those are the colors that I used on my China book. Suggestions for improving the cover text, including the entire book title and subtitle, are also welcome. For comparison purposes, here are the covers of my Iran and China books: ![]() ![]() RE: Generational Dynamics World View - Warren Dew - 02-16-2021 I'd vote for dark blue on yellow, or red on yellow, or maybe dark red brown on yellow. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 02-17-2021 ** 17-Feb-2021 World View: Purple on yellow (02-16-2021, 09:49 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > I'd vote for dark blue on yellow, or red on yellow, or maybe dark After some discussion, the current candidate is purple lettering on yellow, which is very similar to your suggestion: ![]() RE: Generational Dynamics World View - Warren Dew - 02-17-2021 That definitely looks better than blue on blue! RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 02-18-2021 *** 19-Feb-21 World View -- Afghanistan prepares for war, as Nato postpones military withdrawal decision This morning's key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com
**** **** Afghanistan prepares for war, as Nato postpones military withdrawal decision **** ![]() Feb 29 2020 signing ceremony for US-Taliban peace agreement (Tolo News) On Thursday, Nato defense ministers met in Brussels and decided to postpone the planned withdrawal of Nato troops, previously scheduled for May 1. The Taliban have threatened that unless the troops are withdrawn, then there will be a major escalation in the Taliban's spring fighting season, and indeed the violence is already increasing. In Afghanistan, the Taliban are poised to return to power in Afghanistan, either through negotiations or through a renewed civil war, after they had been removed from power by the United States in 2001, after the 9/11 attacks. In 2009 I wrote, based on a Generational Dynamics analysis summarized below, that peace was impossible in Afghanistan, no matter how many troops the US and Nato sent there, which means that the Taliban would return to power if American troops withdrew. That prediction is being proven true once again, and we now appear close to a historic dénouement. In February 2020, the Donald Trump administration reached a delusional agreement with the Taliban to bring a new era of peace to Afghanistan. America and Nato would remove all its troops by May of this year and, in return, the Taliban would stop funding al-Qaeda and would sever all its ties to al-Qaeda. The Taliban didn't promise to stop violence altogether, but did promise to "tone down" the violence. As part of the agreement, peace talks took place between America and the Taliban in Doha, Qatar. These peace talks were also completely delusional. The Afghan government weren't in the talks. And NATO, which also has troops in Afghanistan, weren't in the talks. In fact, the entire "peace process" has always been delusional. Trump removed all but 2,500 troops from Afghanistan, and had every intention of removing all troops by May 1, but Joe Biden has promised to review that decision. But what happens now is now a Brussels decision rather than a Washington decision. **** **** Nato postpones decision to withdraw forces from Afghanistan **** Nato still has 10,000 troops in Afghanistan, and they were scheduled to leave by May 1 as well. It's clear that's not happening, simply from the fact that they haven't yet "started packing." BBC's Lyse Doucet interviewed Nato's Jens Stoltenberg on Thursday. Parts of what he said were hopeful but delusional, but in other parts he conceded that the hopeful parts were not going to happen. The Taliban are claiming that they've met their commitments to reduce violence and end ties with international terrorists. However, violence has been increasing, not decreasing. Furthermore, a UN panel headed by Edmund Fitton-Brown has found that "There is still clearly a close relationship between Al Qaeda and the Taliban. We believe that the top leadership of Al Qaeda is still under Taliban protection." The Taliban are promising a major escalation of violence unless the US and Nato troops withdraw by May 1. Since it's clear that the troops will not withdraw by May 1, it's clear that a major escalation in fighting will begin in the new spring fighting season. Here is what Stoltenberg said in the interview (my transcription): <QUOTE>"So we really believe that this not the time to make a final decision, because we'd like to give every chance to the peace process, the peace talks, to succeed. Those talks are fragile and difficult, there is no easy option in Afghanistan, but there is still a possibility to reach a lasting political agreement, and all parties should engage in those talks, and the Taliban must reduce violence and must negotiate in good faith, and they must stop cooperating with the international terrorists. And by doing that, they will also provide the platform to find a political solution. [Question: So you may be in Afghanistan for many years go come?] Absolutely, as I said, there are no easy options in Afghanistan, and we face many difficult dilemmas. If we decide to stay beyond May 1, then we risk more violence against our troops, and of course we risk continued long-term involvement in a very difficult operation in Afghanistan. But if we leave, we risk that Afghanistan once again becomes a safe haven for international terrorists, planning attacks against our own countries as we saw on 9/11 and also losing all the gains we made on human rights, especially for women over last years. So this is difficult. That's the reason at this stage why we believe this is not the right time to make a final decision on whether we leave or stay, but continue to support the efforts to re-energize the peace talks. [Question: The Taliban say they have kept their commitments. Do you believe you have solid evidence that they have not cut there ties with al-Qaeda, that there is still a risk that Afghanistan could once again be a safe haven to launch attacks against Europe and the United States?] What we have seen is an increase in violence, not a decrease in violence. We have seen that the peace talks are almost stopped, there is hardly any progress at all. And the Taliban has to do more and they have to live up to their commitments especially related to counterterrorism, break ties with terrorist groups."<END QUOTE> According to Doucet, this is so far the worst Taliban fighting season ever, and it will get worse when the snow melts. In fact there's been so little snow this winter, the doctors in the National Police Hospital said that they had never seen so many casualties from so many provinces at this time of year. So the delusional parts of Stoltenberg's interview are when he says, "we'd like to give every chance to the peace process, the peace talks, to succeed." That's delusional because there is zero probability that the peace talks will succeed, since the Taliban are committed to them not succeeding, and are using the peace talks as a ploy to get the Nato forces to withdraw, so that the Taliban can overrun Kabul and resume the control they had before they were ejected by American forces after 9/11/2001. According to a European diplomat: "This war is not winnable, but Nato cannot allow itself to lose it pitifully." That's the choice facing Nato right now. And so the war will go on and be substantially escalated again when the Taliban's spring fighting season begins in earnest. **** **** Why the Afghan peace agreement must fail **** I've written many times that, based on a Generational Dynamics analysis, there is no possibility whatsoever of a successful peace agreement. I started writing about this in 2009, when I predicted that Barack Obama's "surge" into Afghanistan would fail. That prediction has been 100% correct so far. The following is a summary of the Generational Dynamics analysis: Afghanistan's last generational crisis war was an extremely bloody, horrific civil war, in 1991-96. The war was a civil war, fought between the Pashtuns in southern Afghanistan versus the Northern Alliance of Tajiks, Hazaras and Uzbeks in northern Afghanistan. The Taliban are radicalized Pashtuns, and when they need to import foreign fighters, then can import their cousins from the Pashtun tribes in Pakistan. Indeed, it's much worse than that. The ethnic groups in Afghanistan are COMPLETELY NON-UNITED and loathe each other. Pashtuns still have scores to settle with the Tajiks, Hazaras and Uzbeks that formed the Northern Alliance, especially the Shias. These opposing groups have fresh memories of the atrocities, torture, rape, beatings, dismemberments, mutilations, and so forth that the other side performed on their friends, wives and other family members, and they have no desire to be friends or to work together. They'd rather kill each other. So when Jens Stoltenberg says that Nato wants to give the peace process a chance, he knows that statement is delusional, and the only relevant statement is the one by the unnamed European diplomat: "This war is not winnable, but Nato cannot allow itself to lose it pitifully." **** **** Book on history of Vietnam nearing publication **** As regular readers know, I have been writing a book on the history of Vietnam, to complement my previous books on the histories of Iran and China. The book is nearing publication, and I now expect it to be published on Amazon in March. Here are the front and back book covers: ![]() Front and back covers of forthcoming book on history of Vietnam John Xenakis is author of: "World View: War Between China and Japan: Why America Must Be Prepared" (Generational Theory Book Series, Book 2), June 2019, Paperback: 331 pages, with over 200 source references, $13.99 https://www.amazon.com/World-View-Between-Prepared-Generational/dp/1732738637/ John Xenakis is author of: "World View: Iran's Struggle for Supremacy -- Tehran's Obsession to Redraw the Map of the Middle East" (Generational Theory Book Series, Book 1), September 2018, Paperback: 153 pages, over 100 source references, $7.00, https://www.amazon.com/World-View-Supremacy-Obsession-Generational/dp/1732738610/ John Xenakis is author of: "Generational Dynamics Anniversary Edition - Forecasting America's Destiny", (Generational Theory Book Series, Book 3), January 2020, Paperback: 359 pages, $14.99, https://www.amazon.com/Generational-Dynamics-Anniversary-Forecasting-Americas/dp/1732738629/ Sources:
Related Articles:
KEYS: Generational Dynamics, Afghanistan, Taliban, Doha, Qatar, Nato, Brussels, Parliamentary Assembly, Lyce Doucet, Jens Stoltenberg, Edmund Fitton-Brown, Pashtuns, Hazaras, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Northern Alliance, Vietnam, Buddhism, Vietnam War Permanent web link to this article Receive daily World View columns by e-mail Contribute to Generational Dynamics via PayPal John J. Xenakis 100 Memorial Drive Apt 8-13A Cambridge, MA 02142 Phone: 617-864-0010 E-mail: john@GenerationalDynamics.com Web site: http://www.GenerationalDynamics.com Forum: http://www.gdxforum.com/forum Subscribe to World View: http://generationaldynamics.com/subscribe RE: Generational Dynamics World View - Warren Dew - 02-26-2021 I've only had time to skim the book, but I couldn't find anything directly laying out the generational era for Vietnam. If it's not in there, I think it would be useful, particularly regarding when their third turning ends. On another note, I think subsaharan Africa is entering a third turning? As the third turning is an excellent time for outside investment, a book on subsaharan Africa might be of interest to some of your readers. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 02-28-2021 ** 28-Feb-2021 World View: Vietnam generational timeline (02-26-2021, 01:05 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > I've only had time to skim the book, but I couldn't find anything After the "Vietnam War" ended and America withdrew in 1975, the real war began. That was the war that idiots like Jane Fonda and John Kerry wanted to pretend never even occurred. The NY Times wrote, "It's difficult to imagine how their lives could be anything but better with the Americans gone." The headline was, "Indochina without Americans: For Most a Better Life." The North Vietnamese Communists slaughtered thousands of people in South Vietnam, and sent hundreds of thousands to "re-education camps," where they were tortured and beaten and forced to memorize Communist propaganda. The Communists particularly slaughtered Catholics. The Communists went into Laos and committed genocide against the Hmong ethnic group, whom they had hated for centuries. In Cambodia, Pol Pot slaughtered millions of people in the "Killing Fields" genocide that Jane Fonda said she would never criticize, whose purpose was to create a new "master race." Then the Vietnamese Communists invaded Cambodia, and attacked the Khmers, whom they'd hated for centuries. The Chinese Communists invaded Vietnam, to "teach them a lesson." Although the war continued until 1989, I believe it climaxed around 1980. So that was the war that you won't read about because the leftist antiwar assholes at the NY Times and other mainstream media want you to believe that life was wonderful after the Americans left. So if the war climaxed in 1980, then Vietnam today would be at the beginning of an Unraveling era. (02-26-2021, 01:05 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > On another note, I think subsaharan Africa is entering a third I dunno. When I've written about Africa in the past, it's turned out that there are almost no historical records prior to 1850 or so. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-05-2021 *** 6-Mar-21 World View -- Violence escalates dangerously in Myanmar / Burma This morning's key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com
**** **** Violence escalates dangerously in Myanmar / Burma **** ![]() Protesters set up a street blockade in Mandalay, Myanmar (AP) Last Sunday (February 28) was a major turning point in the violence in Myanmar / Burma, when the army security forces began using lethal force and adopted a shoot-to-kill policy, killing peaceful protesters for the first time. The protests were the largest that Myanmar has seen since 2007. They began when the iconic leader Aung San Suu Kyi was arrested on Jan 28, along with her government ministers. (See "2-Feb-21 World View -- Myanmar (Burma) military coup as army arrests Aung San Suu Kyi government officials" ) Up till last Sunday, the army had been using non-lethal tactics, including tear gas and rubber bullets. But on Sunday they began using live ammunition, and the level of violence has been increasing every day since then. Dozens of protesters have been killed so far, and thousands have been arrested, including 29 journalists. Several analysts have said that the army is purposely increasing the level of violence each day in order to break the back of the protests. This tactic worked in 2007. Hundreds of activists and citizens were shot dead or burned alive in government crematoriums. Thousands of Buddhist monks, who led the protests to begin with, were gathered up and detained. Some were found floating face down in rivers. The protests finally fizzled when the violence became lethal enough. However, there's a big difference in public mood between now and 2007. Unlike then, the country today is in a generational Crisis era, and so, unlike then, the mood of both the army and the protesters is not to compromise. This means that it's unlikely the violence will fizzle, and more likely that it will continue to escalate. The next step for the army would be machine guns and assault rifles. The fact that young, innocent people are being killed is infuriating the protesters. There have been complaints of cruelty, even sadism, by the security forces. There have been brutal attacks on innocent medics, and all hospitals are closed in many cities. The increase in lethal violence so far has not deterred the protesters who remain defiant and, if anything, have been growing in numbers. The protesters are wearing whatever protective equipment they can find, like makeshift shields. Some are using satellite dishes as shields, or are wearing helmets. They've tasted freedom in the last few years, and they cannot tolerate a new dictatorship by military junta. Protesters are heavily using their mobile phones to publicize the violence. Although it's dangerous to do so, they're filming the violence and then loading the video onto twitter or live streaming it onto facebook. Probably the military junta has been most hurt by civil disobedience and the national strikes by the banks, and even in the civil service, by workers in health, education, labor, and immigration. The army has used videos on Tiktok to threaten the protesters. A typical video shows a soldier pointing a big gun at the camera and saying that protesters will be shot dead. Tiktok claims that it has removed most of those videos. **** **** International community calls for sanctions to end the violence **** The UN Security Council met on Friday and, not surprisingly, accomplished nothing. Any condemnation of the violence in Myanmar will be vetoed by China and Russia, rather than risk having violence in their own countries be condemned. The US and UK are planning their own sanctions. There are planned sanctions targeting the assets of the members of the military council and imposing travel restrictions, as well as an arms embargo. There is no chance that these sanctions will stop the military junta. **** **** Ethnic Burmans vs the other ethnic groups **** Both BBC and al-Jazeera have been interviewing people in Myanmar, and they're describing a different situation than is portrayed by the so-called "international community," as represented by the UN and NGOs. The international community has provided verbal condemnation that the violence is unacceptable and must stop immediately, that peaceful protests much be permitted, and that Aung San Suu Kyi must be released from jail and returned as leader of the government. And if the violence doesn't stop, the international community is threatening even worse verbal condemnations, and possibly even to hold more meetings. However, some reports have pointed out that although the Burmese mobs support that solution, the ethnic minorities in Myanmar are opposed to it. This opposition point of view was discussed at length by Khin Zaw Win, a Burmese anti-government activist and journalist who was imprisoned by the army from 1994-2005 for "seditious writings," and who was interviewed on the BBC. According to Khin, the ethnic minorities are opposed to Aung San Suu Kyi because she was part of the government that discriminated against minorities. Furthermore, she damaged herself deeply by becoming a useful idiot and siding with the army when the army was conducting genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Muslim Rohingys in Rakhine State, even going so far as traveling to the Hague in December 2019 to defend the Burmese army against charges of war crimes. It is an irony that the army that she defended turned around and threw her under the bus, arresting her and her entire government when she was no longer useful to the army. The Burmese majority and the ethnic minorities have been temporarily united by the military coup and the resulting violence against peaceful street protesters. However, they do not share a common objective. What the ethnic minorities want is a new constitution, with greater political autonomy and greater rights for ethnic minorities. And nobody believes that solution is even remotely possible. **** **** Generational analysis of crisis in Myanmar / Burma **** Burma's last two generational crisis wars (1886-91 and 1948-58) were extremely bloody and violent civil wars involving multiple ethnic groups. (See "Burma: Growing demonstrations by the '88 Generation' raise fears of new slaughter" ) The October 2007 demonstrations occurred 49 years after the climax of the last crisis war, during a generational Unraveling era. At that time, there were many people in the army who had lived through the 1958 slaughter, and stopped short of trying to repeat it. Similarly, the young people who protested in 2007 had parents who had lived through the 1958 slaughter, and who held back their children from going too far in risking their lives. But since 2016, Burma has been in a generational Crisis era. The people who had lived through the 1958 slaughter are gone or retired, and have lost their influence. The younger generation of protesters have no memory of the 1958 slaughter, and do not fear what's coming. The current generation of people in the army also have no memory of the 1958 slaughter. What they remember is the 2007 protests, and they remember that those protests fizzled when the army began escalating the violence. The current protesters also remember the 2007 protests, and they remember how the protesters at that time simply surrendered when they didn't have to. This is how a generational Crisis era is different from a generational Unraveling era. Today, the army has no inhibitions against escalating its violence, and the protesters have no inhibitions against continuing to protest, even if some of them get killed. That makes it unlikely that the current situation will simply fizzle. The situation is further complicated by the ethnic minorities. The 1948-1958 crisis war was a civil war involving all the ethnic groups, especially the Burmese, the Kachin and the Shan. The latter three groups are currently aligned in their opposition to the army, but what we are seeing are the first signs of a massive new ethnic civil war. **** **** Consequences of a new Burma civil war **** According to the Generational Dynamics analysis, the current clashes are fairly likely to escalate into a full scale civil war, although that is not a certainty. However, the current situation is so febrile that even if some temporary truce is worked out -- and this would have to include freeing Aung San Suu Kyi and her government -- then the violence will resume again before long. Arguably, the civil war already began in 2012, when the army began its genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Muslim Rohingyas. The army referred to the Rohingyas as "enemies of the state," but now the ordinary Burmese people have also become "enemies of the state." If the violence escalates into a full-scale civil war, it could affect the entire region. There are now almost a million Rohingyas living in filthy refugee camps just across the border in Bangladesh, and they're looking for revenge. If there is a general breakdown in law and order in Myanmar, then those Rohingya refugees may well cross back into Myanmar and join the fighting. This could also bring Bangladesh itself into the fighting. The separatist Kachin Independence Army (KIA) has joined together with the Shan ethnic group and other ethnic groups in northern Burma, along the border with China, to form a "northern alliance" against Burma's army. These groups have had occasional clashes with China's army along the border inside China, and those clashes would probably escalate if there is a civil war in Burma. In fact, China was heavily involved in the crisis war that climaxed in 1958, and history will certainly repeat itself, with China heavily involved in a new civil war in Burma. As long-time readers are aware, Generational Dynamics predicts a new world war between the US and China, but does not predict the scenario that will lead to that war. We've speculated that it may begin with a Chinese invasion of Taiwan or Japan, or it may begin with a war between India and Pakistan, or it may begin in the Mideast and spread from there. But here we see another possibility. If a massive civil war occurs in Burma, and it spreads to involve China and Bangladesh, then it may spread further to other countries in Central Asia, bringing in India and Russia. And so, Dear Reader, keep your eye on Myanmar / Burma. Even if you're totally addicted to watching the political sewer in Washington, try to avert you eyes every once in a while, if only for a few moments, to see something that may affect the lives of you and your family more than the latest lockdown. John Xenakis is author of: "World View: War Between China and Japan: Why America Must Be Prepared" (Generational Theory Book Series, Book 2), June 2019, Paperback: 331 pages, with over 200 source references, $13.99 https://www.amazon.com/World-View-Between-Prepared-Generational/dp/1732738637/ Sources:
Related Articles:
KEYS: Generational Dynamics, Myanmar, Burma, Aung San Suu Kyi, Rohingyas, Rakhine State, Burmans, Shan, Kachin Independence Army, KIA Permanent web link to this article Receive daily World View columns by e-mail Contribute to Generational Dynamics via PayPal John J. Xenakis 100 Memorial Drive Apt 8-13A Cambridge, MA 02142 Phone: 617-864-0010 E-mail: john@GenerationalDynamics.com Web site: http://www.GenerationalDynamics.com Forum: http://www.gdxforum.com/forum Subscribe to World View: http://generationaldynamics.com/subscribe RE: Generational Dynamics World View - Tim Randal Walker - 03-06-2021 Some years ago (I don't recall exactly how many) I mentioned a magazine article on the paleo 4T site. The article indicated that Vietnam was under going something of a religious revival. A religious revival based on Vietnamese traditions. If Vietnam's last Crisis ended about 40-41 years ago, that would have given Vietnam enough time to complete two turnings. So, yes, it seems plausible that Vietnam might be, or will soon be, in early Unraveling. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - Tim Randal Walker - 03-06-2021 If Burma's last Crisis ended in 1958, then that Crisis ended about 63 years ago. Kids who were old enough to grasp the violence then would be quite aged by now. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 07-Mar-2021 World View: Tulipomania Cool Breeze" Wrote:> Quickly on the tulip bubble, which is the most embarrassing Your description is completely untrue. The Tulipomania bubble lasted for decades, and it bankrupted a lot of people. I wrote about Tulipomania at length in my 2003 book on Generational Dynamics. I was comparing the tech bubble to the bubble in "high tech" tulips. Here's what I wrote at that time: **** Tulipomania By way of example, let's start with one of the most famous bubbles in history. However, it occurred in Europe, not in America. It's the first reasonably well-documented bubble in history, and it was called "Tulip Mania" or "Tulipomania" -- because it had to do with the pricing of Dutch tulips in the early 1600s. This bubble grew for decades, but it only burst completely in 1637, just as France was entering a major "world war" of that time, the Thirty Years' War. It's almost hilarious to compare the Internet products of the 1990s with tulips of the 1630s, but in fact, tulips were the high-tech product in the Netherlands at that time. Those were heady days in the Dutch Republic. Amsterdam was the major gateway between London and Paris, and the city had benefited hugely from having established Europe's first central bank in 1609, giving Dutch merchants a big competitive advantage around the world. It was still the biggest bank in Europe in the 1630s, and the whole of the Netherlands was prosperous, not having yet been affected by the Thirty Years War. Tulips did not originate with the Dutch. The first bulbs had arrived from Turkey only a few years earlier, in the late 1500s. By means of breeding experiments, Dutch botanists were able to produce tulips with spectacular colors. These tulips were sought by wealthy people, and by 1624, one particularly spectacular bulb sold for the cost of a small house. Prices remained elevated for over another decade, and soon investors from all over Europe began purchasing a kind of "Tulip future," a certificate purchased in the fall which can be traded for a specific actual tulip to be grown the following spring. In some ways, these certificates were similar to "stock options" in the 1990s. In 1636, speculation in tulip futures went through the roof, and on February 3, 1637, the tulip market suddenly crashed, causing the loss of enormous sums of money, even by ordinary people, including many ordinary people in France and other countries. A mood of retribution began immediately, and even the tulips themselves suffered. Evrard Forstius, a professor of botany, became so reviled by the mere sight of tulips that he attacked them with sticks whenever he saw them! At this point, the Thirty Years War enveloped all of Europe. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 07-Mar-2021 World View: Collapse of civilization Higgenbotham Wrote:Demarest once again. The material you've posted from Arthur Demarest is very interesting, but there's another side to it -- the recovery. Let's take a relatively modern example, the German civilization. The German nation was formed in the 1860s, and it reached its peak in the 1930s. But like the Maya civilization it collapsed quickly. By 1945, the German civilization was in pieces -- literally, since the German nation had been split into four pieces. In 1945, all of Germany's large cities and many midsized cities lay in ruins and ashes. The allied bombs had been directed at civilians as well as factories. Incendiary bombs had been used to devour people in flames. Dresden was a particular target. Tens of millions of people were in chaos, without homes, and barely with any hope of survival. So that certainly fits Demarest's description of a civilization that had collapsed. But look what happened afterwards. Germany went through a Recovery Era, and within 20 years was an economic powerhouse again. In 1991, East and West Germany were reunited, and so you could almost say that German civilization didn't collapse after all. What Demarest is describing fits very well into the Generational Dynamics template. A society or nation reaches a peak during the Unraveling era or the first part of the Crisis era. Then a Regeneracy occurs, and the society or nation goes into a full-scale crisis war. A crisis war typically lasts around five years, and the losing side can be destroyed very quickly, as Demarest says. But then there's a Recovery Era and an Awakening Era, and before you know it, everything's back the way it was. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 07-Mar-2021 World View: Collapse of Roman Britain tim Wrote:> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glKe9njOB24 That's an amazing story. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 07-Mar-2021 World View: After the war Guest Wrote:> Tim has some good info, but personally, I don't know why anyone That's the wrong way of looking at it. I certainly wouldn't want to live through a full blown nuclear war, but if you live through the war and survive and come out the other end relatively unscathed, then in many cases life could be quite good. There will be lots of work to do to rebuild the world, and there will be lots of available chicks, since usually more men than women are killed in war. And it won't take a hundred years to rebuild. Within ten years, things will already be looking pretty good, though primitive. After another ten years the world will be pretty good. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 09-Mar-2021 World View: Ye shall not know the date aeden Wrote:> https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-capitol-riot-terrified-elites Cool Breeze" Wrote:> Oh yes it will. Better yet, it'll profit the resident guru JX the Actually, the opposite is true. From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, a stock market panic is a chaotic event, and the date cannot be predicted. If Aeden could correctly predict the date, not simply by chance but according to some reproducible algorithm, then it would indicate that Generational Dynamics is wrong in that regard, so I would not "profit." RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 10-Mar-2021 World View: Myanmar / Burma violence - no end in sight ![]()
I heard a couple of tv analysts say that the protests in Myanmar / Burma can't continue much longer, because the police/army violence against the protesters is growing, and soon the protesters will have to give up. One of them said explicitly: "We know from history the protesters will back down, because that's what happened in the 2007 protests after the violence against protesters became too great." This is a typical mistake that journalists, analysts and politicians make all the time. In 2007, Burma was in a generational Unraveling era, at a time when there were still plenty of people running things who were survivors of the last generational crisis war (1948-1958), and so there was a mood of compromise on all sides. But today, the country is in a generational Crisis era, with all of those survivors now retired or dead, and there's no mood of compromise among the younger generations. So the 2007 historical analogy is irrelevant. In fact, it may motivate in the opposite direction, if today's protesters have the view that the 2007 protesters gave up before they had to. The harsh military crackdown is continuing and escalating. Police are smashing open the doors of apartments of suspected protesters and arresting them in the middle of the night. The police are freely using tear gas and live ammunition, and thousands of people have arrested. It's thought that the protests have been only partially affected. One reporter said that instead of hundreds of thousands of protesters at some rallies, he's seeing "only" tens of thousands. An interesting development is that protesters are practicing drills and training each other to face the police. This suggests that the protests, which formerly have been entirely organic, are now becoming more organized. There are an increasing number of workers in the "civil disobedience movement," an alliance of nine trade unions in Myanmar in a general strike Monday. The most publicized case is the strike by railway workers. On Wednesday, security forces raided a Yangon neighborhood where railway workers live in government-provided housing. The workers were forced at gunpoint to go back to work. There have been only a few defections from the army. Myanmar's ambassadors to the UN and UK have switched sides and begged the international community to do something. A few hundred policemen have fled across the border into India, because they didn't want to kill their fellow citizens. But those defections have been rare. Both sides -- the army and the protesters -- have been digging in and hardening their positions. There are no signs that this will end any time soon. ---- Sources: -- Myanmar protesters hold 'rehearsals' as they prepare for more street clashes with military with activists posing as riot police as they are pelted with bottles https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9342863/Myanmar-protesters-hold-rehearsal-street-battles.html (DailyMail, 9-Mar-2021) -- Myanmar Security Forces Target Striking Railroad Workers' Neighborhood https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/myanmar-security-forces-target-striking-railroad-workers-neighborhood (VOA, 10-Mar-2021) -- Myanmar protesters defy curfew; media outlets ordered shut https://www.miningjournal.net/news/international-news-apwire/2021/03/myanmar-protesters-defy-curfew-media-outlets-ordered-shut/ (AP, 10-Mar-2021) -- Myanmar's military junta pays $2 million to Canadian lobbying firm to 'explain the real situation' as riot police carry out dawn raids on railway workers and death toll in brutal crackdown rises to more than 60 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9345617/Myanmars-military-junta-pays-2million-Canadian-lobbying-firm-explain-real-situation.html (DailyMail, 10-Mar-2021) ---- Related articles: ** 6-Mar-21 World View -- Violence escalates dangerously in Myanmar / Burma ** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/xct.gd.e210306.htm#e210306 ** 8-Feb-21 World View -- Violence feared in Myanmar/Burma as pro-democracy protests grow ** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/xct.gd.e210208.htm#e210208 ** 2-Feb-21 World View -- Myanmar (Burma) military coup as army arrests Aung San Suu Kyi government officials ** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/xct.gd.e210202.htm#e210202 RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 10-Mar-2021 World View: The Deflationary Tsunami Tom Mazanec" Wrote:> Too Busy Frontrunning Inflation, Nobody Sees the Deflationary Bubble psychology really is very strange to me. How could supposedly intelligent people be so dumb and blind? Starting in 2004, I watched the housing bubble with astonishment. It was obvious to me that there was a housing bubble. It was obvious to Alan Greenspan that there was a housing bubble, and I quoted him at length, although the so-called financial "experts" pretended not to understand him by claiming he used obscure language. I sold my condo at the height of the housing bubble, and part of the reason I'm alive today is the money that provided. In 2007, I was begging a couple of friends not to buy homes because they were in a housing bubble, but they did anyway and lost a lot of money. It was only in 2009 when I heard an analyst on tv talk about the housing bubble -- in 2006. As I've written before, I've been tracking inflation predictions since 2003, and so-called "experts" have been wrong about predicting inflation constantly. But they're so stupid, they keep making the same mistake over and over. Isn't that the definition of insanity? Every quarter they predict massive inflation the next quarter. They've been wrong about this for about 70 consecutive quarters since I've been keeping track, and they keep making the same stupid mistake. And they're doing it again today. So the above deflation article by Charles Hugh Smith is the first that I've seen that really gives a detailed explanation of why we're headed for a deflationary crisis. Here is my summary of the reasoning why we're headed for a "deflationary tsunami," based on the reasoning in the article:
That's what happened during the roaring 1920s, until October 28, 1929. Then something happened, and there was a panic. What changed? Why did a panic occur on that date, rather a few months earlier or later? I've speculated that it was because that date was seven weeks after third quarter earnings were announced, and those seven weeks were enough for investors to understand that stocks were not going to continue going up. But nobody knows for sure. Whatever the reason, the mood of the public changed, almost overnight. It was no longer a sure thing that stocks would go up forever. This meant that any investor who had borrowed a great deal of money, "knowing" that he could pay off the debt by selling higher priced stock, suddenly did not know that, but he still had debts to pay off. It's not surprising that public mood can change overnight. For example, we know today that something that nobody heard of a month ago suddenly "goes viral" and becomes extremely popular with the public. So what happened in October 1929, when the public mood suddenly changed from "the stock market will go up forever" to "it won't." Here's a summary:
What happened after that was described by John Kenneth Galbraith in his book The Great Crash - 1929: Quote: "In the autumn of 1929 the New York Stock Exchange, I've referred to this in the past as The Principle of Maximum Ruin -- the maximum number of people were ruined to the maximum extent possible. Stock prices fell steadily until mid-1932, having fallen a total of 90%, and only then began to grow again, not reaching their 1929 highs again until 1952. It's worthwhile reading Galbraith's account carefully, because it shows how the public mood was changing rapidly:
So that's why the stock market crashes, but why does that cause a "deflation tsunami"? Because people in debt have to sell off their assets to pay off the debts, and that pushes down the prices of the assets, causing deflation. The most liquid assets go first, such as stocks and money market instruments. After that, less liquid assets have to be sold -- things like jewelry, art, gems, real estate, cars and trucks, and today that would include bitcoin. So debt repayments require forced asset sales and result in deflation. Between 1930 and 1933, prices fell 10% per year. Today, we're still in the "pre October 1929" world. Personal, business and government debt has been surging constantly for decades. American public debt is around $27 trillion, and this week the Democrats passed a Christmas tree stimulus bill that will add almost $2 trillion more. And the Democrats are promising more. These debt levels are insane, but they're even more insane because they're backed by an insane theory, Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), that says that the government can borrow as much as it wants and never has to pay it back. Today the public mood is not only that stock prices will go up forever, but also that debts will never have to be paid back. Astronomical, dysfunctional prices for Tesla stock or Bitcoin are perversely considered proof that stock prices will always go up, and that asset values will always go up. This is exactly what people believed prior to October 1929. Then the public mood changed. Nobody could have predicted it, just as nobody can predict that a new hashtag "goes viral" today. It happens out of thin air, and nobody can explain it. And at some point the public mood is going to change to believe that stocks won't go up forever, or that public debts will have to be repaid. That's when the "deflationary tsunami" will occur. As the article by Charles Hugh Smith says: Quote: "Speculative bubbles pop. All phantom wealth vanishes This article by Charles Hugh Smith is the first of its kind that I've seen. It's not entirely inconceivable that this article is the first sign that the public mood is beginning to change. Once a panic begins, it will be too late for anyone to save himself. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 11-Mar-2021 World View: Math is racist richard5za Wrote:> My experience is that most people struggle with math and math Forget calculus. Most college graduates today are too stupid to do even fourth grade math, because they've been taking women's studies or sociology or equivalent courses that teach you to be stupid. In fact, most of them can't do second grade math. For example: "Jack bought a tv set for $237.99. Jane bought a tv set that was 27% less expensive. How much did Jane pay?" That's a fairly simple fourth grade percentage problem, but it's completely inscrutable to idiots like AOC and other college graduates today. That's why they're calling math "racist"." Because they're idiots. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 03-15-2021 ** 11-Mar-2021 World View: UN Official: Myanmar military - Crimes Against Humanity Arbitrary murders and arrests of people in Myanmar suspected of being protesters has been increasing every day, to the point that the "United Nations Special Rapporteur to Syria," Thomas Andrews, said on Thursday: Quote: "There is growing evidence that (the) Myanmar Andrews implied that the UN would not be able to do anything about it, which is true, since any action by the Security Council would be vetoed by China. However, he called on individual countries to impose sanctions on the junta leaders and on the military-owned Myanmar Oil and Gas Enterprise, whose revenues from natural gas projects he said were set to reach $1 billion this year. ---- Sources: -- Myanmar Military Likely Behind 'Crimes Against Humanity': UN Expert https://www.barrons.com/news/myanmar-military-likely-behind-crimes-against-humanity-un-expert-01615479305?tesla=y (AFP, 11-Mar-2021) -- Thomas Andrews / U.N. rights expert says Myanmar death toll hits 70, seeks sanctions https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics-un-rights/u-n-rights-expert-says-myanmar-death-toll-hits-70-seeks-sanctions-idUSKBN2B32GK?il=0 (Reuters, 11-Mar-2021) |