(07-08-2020, 12:29 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-08-2020, 05:39 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: CNN reports WHO confirms there's 'emerging evidence' of airborne transmission of coronavirus

This doesn't seem like news.  The major purpose of masks is to vastly decrease the wearer's putting coronavirus spray in the air.  Masks have been a big part of fighting the bug since Wuhan.

I think the new info here is the degree to which the virus can travel and be persistent.  If 6 feet is simply not enough, and the virus hangs in the air for hours, we're in a new ballgame.  Most of the indoor recommendations become moot, except for masking.

(07-08-2020, 08:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-08-2020, 12:29 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-08-2020, 05:39 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: CNN reports WHO confirms there's 'emerging evidence' of airborne transmission of coronavirus

This doesn't seem like news.  The major purpose of masks is to vastly decrease the wearer's putting coronavirus spray in the air.  Masks have been a big part of fighting the bug since Wuhan.

I think the new info here is the degree to which the virus can travel and be persistent.  If 6 feet is simply not enough, and the virus hangs in the air for hours, we're in a new ballgame.  Most of the indoor recommendations become moot, except for masking.

Ventilation may help for indoor places, reducing that persistence, so I heard.

(07-08-2020, 08:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-08-2020, 12:29 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-08-2020, 05:39 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: CNN reports WHO confirms there's 'emerging evidence' of airborne transmission of coronavirus

This doesn't seem like news.  The major purpose of masks is to vastly decrease the wearer's putting coronavirus spray in the air.  Masks have been a big part of fighting the bug since Wuhan.

I think the new info here is the degree to which the virus can travel and be persistent.  If 6 feet is simply not enough, and the virus hangs in the air for hours, we're in a new ballgame.  Most of the indoor recommendations become moot, except for masking.

Ventilation may help for indoor places, reducing that persistence, so I heard.

(07-09-2020, 02:19 PM)TnT Wrote: USA - 4.5% of the world's population.

USA - 25+% of the world's COVID-19 cases.

QED

CNN Wrote:As the US plunges into an ever deeper coronavirus morass, setting record new infection rates and the death curve begins to rise again, there's no prospect of the nightmare ending for months.

(07-10-2020, 05:36 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: CNN reports that there is no plan.

CNN Wrote:As the US plunges into an ever deeper coronavirus morass, setting record new infection rates and the death curve begins to rise again, there's no prospect of the nightmare ending for months.

I know there are people who think CNN is part of a partisan coastal media, but beyond calling ignoring the problem and hoping the resultant healthy economy will get him elected, I doubt there is a plan.

Can the truth be partisan?

(07-09-2020, 03:37 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-09-2020, 02:19 PM)TnT Wrote: USA - 4.5% of the world's population.

USA - 25+% of the world's COVID-19 cases.

QED

Even worse: it's unlikely to change.  We're in for a bumpy ride.  It's best to stay out of GOP-run states if you value your health.  Either that, or have a UV light inserted... never mind.

(07-11-2020, 11:50 AM)TnT Wrote:

(07-09-2020, 03:37 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-09-2020, 02:19 PM)TnT Wrote: USA - 4.5% of the world's population.

USA - 25+% of the world's COVID-19 cases.

QED

Even worse: it's unlikely to change.  We're in for a bumpy ride.  It's best to stay out of GOP-run states if you value your health.  Either that, or have a UV light inserted... never mind.

Here in New Mexico we now have the TX and AZ flare-ups leaking into our state.  Our governor took an aggressive approach to controlling the virus and it was working.  Now we have southeast NM (near Lubbock, TX) and El Paso on the south going out of control, and of course that brings the population centers like Albuquerque, Santa Fe and Las Cruces back into the frying pan.

All while lunatic Republicans like Steve Pearce, the erstwhile U.S. Rep, prattle on about our constitutional "liberties."  They babble about the issue AS IF the economy and the pandemic are two disparate things that have no overlap.  The biology and the economics of it are that we GET the bad economic effects AND we GET the bad pandemic.  Only careful nuanced hard work and cooperation can optimize and minimize the badness on both hands.

(07-11-2020, 11:50 AM)TnT Wrote:

(07-09-2020, 03:37 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-09-2020, 02:19 PM)TnT Wrote: USA - 4.5% of the world's population.

USA - 25+% of the world's COVID-19 cases.

QED

Even worse: it's unlikely to change.  We're in for a bumpy ride.  It's best to stay out of GOP-run states if you value your health.  Either that, or have a UV light inserted... never mind.

Here in New Mexico we now have the TX and AZ flare-ups leaking into our state.  Our governor took an aggressive approach to controlling the virus and it was working.  Now we have southeast NM (near Lubbock, TX) and El Paso on the south going out of control, and of course that brings the population centers like Albuquerque, Santa Fe and Las Cruces back into the frying pan.

All while lunatic Republicans like Steve Pearce, the erstwhile U.S. Rep, prattle on about our constitutional "liberties."  They babble about the issue AS IF the economy and the pandemic are two disparate things that have no overlap.  The biology and the economics of it are that we GET the bad economic effects AND we GET the bad pandemic.  Only careful nuanced hard work and cooperation can optimize and minimize the badness on both hands.

(07-11-2020, 06:22 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(07-11-2020, 11:50 AM)TnT Wrote:

(07-09-2020, 03:37 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-09-2020, 02:19 PM)TnT Wrote: USA - 4.5% of the world's population.

USA - 25+% of the world's COVID-19 cases.

QED

Even worse: it's unlikely to change.  We're in for a bumpy ride.  It's best to stay out of GOP-run states if you value your health.  Either that, or have a UV light inserted... never mind.

Here in New Mexico we now have the TX and AZ flare-ups leaking into our state.  Our governor took an aggressive approach to controlling the virus and it was working.  Now we have southeast NM (near Lubbock, TX) and El Paso on the south going out of control, and of course that brings the population centers like Albuquerque, Santa Fe and Las Cruces back into the frying pan.

All while lunatic Republicans like Steve Pearce, the erstwhile U.S. Rep, prattle on about our constitutional "liberties."  They babble about the issue AS IF the economy and the pandemic are two disparate things that have no overlap.  The biology and the economics of it are that we GET the bad economic effects AND we GET the bad pandemic.  Only careful nuanced hard work and cooperation can optimize and minimize the badness on both hands.

You forgot Oklahoma. Oklahoma, where the virus comes sweeping down the plain, with an obese population and where few folks wear masks can be seen. New Mexico lives in a bad hood.

Quote:SAN ANTONIO (KENS 5) — A 30-year-old patient died after going to a “COVID Party,” according to Dr. Jane Appleby, the chief medical officer at Methodist Hospital.

“This is a party held by someone diagnosed with the COVID virus, and the thought is that people get together to see if the virus is real if anyone gets infected,” Appleby said.

Appleby said a member of her staff told her the story this week.

“Just before the patient died, they looked at their nurse and said, ‘I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not,'” Appleby said.

She said many of the critically ill patients being treated at Methodist Hospital for COVID-19 are in their twenties or thirties, which is a developing trend across the San Antonio area.

San Antonio mayor Ron Nirenberg said said 25% of the positive cases in Bexar County are made up of young adults.

“We’re in a period of very high community transmission,” Nirenberg said. “If you’re having a party with people who aren’t part of your social circle in your household, it has the potential to be a COVID party whether you like it or not.”

Appelby says she hopes that, in sharing this patient’s story, she can help people realize the severity of the virus.

“This is just one example of a potentially avoidable death in a young member of our community, and I can’t imagine the loss of the family,” Appleby said. “We’re here to help you. At the same time, we hope that you don’t need our help. Please wear a mask, stay at home when you can, avoid groups of people and sanitize your hands.”