(06-21-2016, 05:06 PM)radind Wrote:

(06-21-2016, 04:42 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Michelle Obama reminds us of who we really are.

Diversity is not the problem. But terrorism and violent acts are problems.

(06-22-2016, 05:57 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Oooh, I think I know who The Donald might choose as his Veep!!!



When you are that ridiculous that frequently, do we get innured to that? How do you make a candidate answer for those things he throws out there, when he throws so much out there? Bill Maher was wondering that too. My thought is Trump got this technique from the book he put next to his bed; Adolf Hitler's big lie. Tell it so often that nobody believes such a big lie could be wrong.

I wonder if I could use Hillary's technique on Taramarie. Has the things she says gotten outrageous enough for it to work? we'll see....

(06-23-2016, 06:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Trump is incomprehensible to Mrs. Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/barbara-bush-i-dont-know-how-women-can-vote-for-donald-trump/

(06-23-2016, 09:03 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(06-23-2016, 06:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Trump is incomprehensible to Mrs. Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/barbara-bush-i-dont-know-how-women-can-vote-for-donald-trump/

Hmmm... Shrubs are incomprehensible to Rags.

I mean really, how could anyone have voted for Barbara Bush's spawn, George Worthless Shrub.

(06-23-2016, 10:50 PM)taramarie Wrote: Yep both have an agenda to control something. We already have unisex toilets so i do not understand what the frigging deal is.

Quote:There's an ongoing debate in the chattering classes about the deepest motives of those who support Donald Trump for president. One theory is that it's cultural change — epitomized by immigration and the spread of non-Christian religious views — that makes these folks tick. Another is that it's a product of economic inequality and insecurity.  Those who hold the latter view tend to think Trump has some natural appeal to Bernie Sanders voters, to the point of sometimes seeming to suggest that Trumpenproletariats just need to bone up on their Piketty in order to find their true gospel in democratic socialism.

But now comes the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and Brookings with a new survey that adds powerful ammunition to the "It's the Culture, Stupid!" faction. It covers many issues related to the changing demographics of America and the perceived impact on the culture for good and for ill. And it does not always break out Donald Trump supporters from broader categories like Republicans and white, working-class members. But where it does, it paints a pretty clear picture of a group of people who absolutely hate the changes taking place in this country since the 1950s, and will support almost any measures to turn back the clock.

You can get a full sense of the comparative views of Trump supporters by reading the entire report, but just listing some of their perceptions in a row will give a good sense of how strongly these folks resent cultural change:

    77 percent say it bothers them to come into contact with people who speak little or no English.
    81 percent say discrimination against whites is as big a problem as discrimination against minorities.
    77 percent say discrimination against Christians in the U.S. is a major problem.
    83 percent say the American way of life needs to be protected against foreign influences.
    83 percent say the values of Islam are at odds with America's values and way of life.
    80 percent say immigrants constitute a burden on American society.
    68 percent say the country has changed mostly for the worse since the 1950s.

And here's the scariest one:

    72 percent say we need a leader who is willing to break some rules to set things right.

(06-27-2016, 07:40 AM)Odin Wrote: Trump Fans Really Want a Less-Diverse America

Quote:     77 percent say it bothers them to come into contact with people who speak little or no English.
    81 percent say discrimination against whites is as big a problem as discrimination against minorities.
    77 percent say discrimination against Christians in the U.S. is a major problem.
    83 percent say the American way of life needs to be protected against foreign influences.
    83 percent say the values of Islam are at odds with America's values and way of life.
    80 percent say immigrants constitute a burden on American society.
    68 percent say the country has changed mostly for the worse since the 1950s.

And here's the scariest one:

    72 percent say we need a leader who is willing to break some rules to set things right.

(06-27-2016, 11:20 AM)The Wonkette Wrote:

(06-27-2016, 07:40 AM)Odin Wrote: Trump Fans Really Want a Less-Diverse America

Quote:     77 percent say it bothers them to come into contact with people who speak little or no English.
    81 percent say discrimination against whites is as big a problem as discrimination against minorities.
    77 percent say discrimination against Christians in the U.S. is a major problem.
    83 percent say the American way of life needs to be protected against foreign influences.
    83 percent say the values of Islam are at odds with America's values and way of life.
    80 percent say immigrants constitute a burden on American society.
    68 percent say the country has changed mostly for the worse since the 1950s.

And here's the scariest one:

    72 percent say we need a leader who is willing to break some rules to set things right.

I have to admit, I can understand the Trump supporters on the first one.  Whether I'm in my neighborhood and hear the landscapers speaking in Spanish which I don't understand, or whether I'm visiting my nieces and nephews in Stockholm, Sweden, and can't understand much, it bothers me.  However, unlike the Trump supporters, I understand that the issue is me, not them.  After all, in 1912, my grandfather came to the US speaking German, Yiddish, and Hebrew, and had to learn English.

Quote:Donald Trump can’t find a way to criticize Elizabeth Warren without demeaning Native Americans.

In theory, Trump has a good line of attack against the Massachusetts senator. She has claimed to have Cherokee ancestry, but this claim rests on family lore and is historically dubious. But Trump and his allies, including former Senator Scott Brown, whom Warren ousted in 2012, can’t help but turn an attack on Warren’s false claim into mockery of Native Americans. “She can take a DNA test,” Brown suggested. As The Washington Post notes, “The storyline eventually backfired on Brown, especially after some campaign workers were filmed war-whooping and making ‘tomahawk chops’ at Warren.”

These war whoops have been heard again at Trump rallies, who provokes them by nicknaming Warren “Pocahontas.” As Trump told NBC on Monday, “She is one of the least productive senators in the United States Senate. We call her Pocahontas for a reason.” Trump doesn’t seem to realize it, but by using one of the most famous Native Americans in history as a denigrating slur, he’s being bigoted. That’s the exact sort of blinkered attitude towards race that is making Trump one of the most unpopular presidential candidates with non-whites ever, rivaling David Duke.

Dan Wrote:Donald Trump can’t find a way to criticize Elizabeth Warren without demeaning Native Americans.

In theory, Trump has a good line of attack against the Massachusetts senator. She has claimed to have Cherokee ancestry, but this claim rests on family lore and is historically dubious.

Quote:But Trump and his allies, including former Senator Scott Brown, whom Warren ousted in 2012, can’t help but turn an attack on Warren’s false claim into mockery of Native Americans. “She can take a DNA test,” Brown suggested. As The Washington Post notes, “The storyline eventually backfired on Brown, especially after some campaign workers were filmed war-whooping and making ‘tomahawk chops’ at Warren.”

(06-27-2016, 10:51 PM)taramarie Wrote: Why criticize someone for being part native American? I am guessing it is part of her heritage if he is supposedly insulting them in connection to her.