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Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Bad Dog - 05-23-2016 Two managers, and about 10% of the engineering staff quit in the last month. One manger went to the VP of Ops, threw her badge down, and walked out. The department VP then published a newsletter about how there would be no need to knock down a wall to make space for more staff, as there was plenty of space, now. they also published more strict policy guidelines. Also, 12 hour rotating shifts would continue. The VP is an X. ![]() RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Ragnarök_62 - 05-23-2016 (05-23-2016, 05:57 PM)Bad Dog Wrote: Two managers, and about 10% of the engineering staff quit in the last month. One manger went to the VP of Ops, threw her badge down, and walked out. Uh, can you put the policy guidelines here so we can lampoon them? #ThanksInAdvance 12 hour shifts? Bwaahahahahahah. Stupid company. They have no clue that people's performance goes into a nosedive after a 4 hour interval without a break. It takes a further dive after 8 hours of work even with breaks. When I supervise, I always call a break after every 2 hours in a 8 hour day. I prefer folks who are awake and haven't turned into zombies. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Kinser79 - 05-24-2016 Actually mental work is even worse. Productivity starts a rapid decline after 6 hours even with breaks. That would be most white collar work. Physical jobs take longer to reach the status of negative productivity because the muscles are less demanding of oxygen, and fuel than the brain. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Odin - 05-24-2016 (05-24-2016, 12:11 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Actually mental work is even worse. Productivity starts a rapid decline after 6 hours even with breaks. That would be most white collar work. Physical jobs take longer to reach the status of negative productivity because the muscles are less demanding of oxygen, and fuel than the brain. IIRC about 1/4 of our daily calories (so, about 500 to 800 calories a day) goes to fueling our brains. I remember reading on a book on human evolution that our brain's blood circulation is specially adapted to getting rid of all the heat generated by the brain's metabolism, an adaptation not found in chimps and gorillas. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - pbrower2a - 05-24-2016 (05-23-2016, 06:20 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(05-23-2016, 05:57 PM)Bad Dog Wrote: Two managers, and about 10% of the engineering staff quit in the last month. One manger went to the VP of Ops, threw her badge down, and walked out. A company like this is likely already in severe decline, and the 12-hour shifts suggest a desperate effort to survive. That so many engineers leave indicate that the company is not solving its problems with innovation and entrepreneurialism as a company in a growth phase would do. It will likely become even more rigid and demanding -- and be even more stringent in its demands while offering less in return. It pushes people deep into the realm of diminishing returns. It obviously cannot attract talented people with solutions, and will be stuck with people going nowhere because they are too scared or incompetent to go elsewhere. It will soon have hemorrhaged away so much talent that it will have to improve its work rules to accommodate the people still there. It's sauve-qui-peut until the company goes bankrupt in a decade or two or gets bought for its assets by some vampire capitalist. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Earl and Mooch - 05-24-2016 (05-24-2016, 07:34 AM)Odin Wrote:(05-24-2016, 12:11 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Actually mental work is even worse. Productivity starts a rapid decline after 6 hours even with breaks. That would be most white collar work. Physical jobs take longer to reach the status of negative productivity because the muscles are less demanding of oxygen, and fuel than the brain. No wonder I'm tired when I get home from work. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Bad Dog - 05-25-2016 Same newsletter: Two supervisory positions listed. Two Lead engineering positions listed. Seven engineering positions listed. Out of about 80, total. 12.5% casualties in a month... Direct quote from newsletter: "At this point we are holding off on the (staff) expansion, as we currently have plenty of open seats to fill for current staff, and all open positions. We are also focusing on what we can do to increase our efficiency within our team like new tools. Efforts like this will allow us to provide world-class service to our customers going forward." Policy #4) Working with your peers will be evaluated. Policy #5) Punctuality and attendance will be evaluated. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Galen - 05-25-2016 (05-25-2016, 02:19 AM)Bad Dog Wrote: Policy #4) Working with your peers will be evaluated. This is a company that is in a death spiral and management literally has no clue about how to fix the problems. It looks like the smart rats already left. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Bad Dog - 05-25-2016 (05-24-2016, 10:21 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:I fit both. ![]() RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Bad Dog - 05-25-2016 From VP to Dog: VP: 1971?>Director: 1978?>Team Lead: 1966>Dog: Late Jones. Co-worker: 1985 Core Millie. Anybody see a pattern? ![]() RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Bad Dog - 05-25-2016 The most ruthless X are suppressing Boomers and Millies alike. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - pbrower2a - 05-25-2016 (05-25-2016, 02:19 AM)Bad Dog Wrote: Same newsletter: Someone is running your company like a fast-food chain, a bad model of management when one has educated professionals. Fast-food chains can get away with a high rate of employee turnover because employees are unspecialized and easily trained. It's not so easy to train an engineer. Do you want to think that anything is any better in accounting or marketing? One does not get world-class service from people treated like dirt. One at best gets scared, servile staff... that is not consistent with engineers. Add to that, fear brings out the worst in people. It does not promote innovation. As Galen puts it, and I rarely agree with him, your company is in a death spiral. The best that can happen for someone there is that the Reign of Terror ends with the tyrannical boss fired, and those still there have jobs in which the highest order of business is to not step on any toes. That's one way to go into decline. If you are old enough, you might stick around until retirement -- if you can't get suitable work elsewhere and can't start a business. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - pbrower2a - 05-25-2016 I'm guessing that Bad Dog's employer was recently like this. Companies leaving the growth-by-innovation stage, are in what Adizes calls "aristocracy":
Now what follows? The Witch Hunt Everyone is busy trying to find out who caused the disaster. With blades drawn, it's backstabbing time in the boardroom. Like primitive tribes afflicted by extended drought or famine, there is a rush to appease the gods. The organization needs a sacrifice. Whom does it sacrifice? The fairest maiden, the finest warrior, or the cream of the crop? Typically, the management of a company in Recrimination sacrifices its most valuable and scarcest treasure.........the last vestiges of innovation and creativity. The company fires the EVP of Marketing, explaining, "We're in the wrong market with the wrong products and our advertising does not work." The heads of Strategic Planning, Business Development and Engineering are the next to find themselves on the street. "Our strategy does not work. Our acquisitions are not working. Our products and technology are obsolete." The people who get fired don't feel they are responsible for the company's situation. The Marketing VP often said that the company ought to change its direction. The strategist has an ulcer worrying about the lack of direction. Privately, these individuals complained, urged, begged, and threatened, but their efforts were like pushing wet spaghetti up a hill. Their exodus merely exacerbates the problem because these creative people are the indivduals the organization needs most for survival. What follows? Although it should be dead, the company in Bureaucracy is kept alive by artificial life support. The company was born the first time in Infancy, it was reborn in Adolescence, and its third "birth" is in Bureaucracy when it gets an artificial continuance on its life. Death occurs when no one remains committed to keeping the organization alive. If there is no business or government commitment to supporting a company in Recrimination, death can occur instead of bureaucratization. In the Bureaucratic stage, a company is largely incapable of generating sufficient resources to sustain itself. It justifies its existence by the simple fact that the organization serves a purpose that is of interest to another political and business entity willing to support it. The Bureaucratic organization:
For a historical example, think of the Roman Empire in the third quarter of the 5th century AD. It still looked impressive as a political entity, but the old power system was gutted. Barbarian princes were carving out fiefdoms in the Name of the Emperor. It was costly to maintain due to the pomp and the imperial bureaucracy. In 476 the chieftain Odoacer determined that it was no longer useful and abolished it. Hardly anyone cared except the well-paid drones. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Ragnarök_62 - 05-25-2016 (05-25-2016, 02:19 AM)Bad Dog Wrote:Quote: Same newsletter: Someone is running your company like a fast-food chain, a bad model of management when one has educated professionals. Fast-food chains can get away with a high rate of employee turnover because employees are unspecialized and easily trained. It's not so easy to train an engineer. Do you want to think that anything is any better in accounting or marketing? One does not get world-class service from people treated like dirt. One at best gets scared, servile staff... that is not consistent with engineers. Add to that, fear brings out the worst in people. It does not promote innovation. As Galen puts it, and I rarely agree with him, your company is in a death spiral. The best that can happen for someone there is that the Reign of Terror ends with the tyrannical boss fired, and those still there have jobs in which the highest order of business is to not step on any toes. That's one way to go into decline. If you are old enough, you might stick around until retirement -- if you can't get suitable work elsewhere and can't start a business. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - pbrower2a - 05-25-2016 Technology cannot rescue a failing enterprise. A competitor will surely use it more effectively and to a greater advantage. You might want to check my thread on the business life-cycle, start-up to death. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Ragnarök_62 - 05-26-2016 (05-25-2016, 11:29 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:Quote: Technology cannot rescue a failing enterprise. A competitor will surely use it more effectively and to a greater advantage. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Bad Dog - 05-26-2016 The company provides networking, broadband, and IT support for businesses that are not large enough to have an enterprise IT department, or those who do not wish to have an IT department (to have someone to fire). The amazing thing is that it not an overseas firm. ![]() It started in Louisiana, and carries on those grand old traditional values. ![]() The floors are vacuumed every four hours. The trash cans are emptied every four hours. Office supplies must be paid for in your own blood (no kleenex for weeks, etc). Dog and pony shows for clients are led through our war room, so no IT person can wear tennis shoes, etc. No petting of the dogs or ponies is allowed. No personal items of any kind are allowed in cubicles. The CEO is an early Boom salesman. Top line revenue is valued. Anyone fired is immediately shamed by having an email sent to all employees, with photo, stating said person is no longer with the company, and is not allowed in the building. Anybody getting a picture of how corporate thinks? RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Odin - 05-26-2016 (05-26-2016, 02:22 PM)Bad Dog Wrote: The company provides networking, broadband, and IT support for businesses that are not large enough to have an enterprise IT department, or those who do not wish to have an IT department (to have someone to fire). Get out of there ASAP, that kind of workplace will destroy your soul. RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - pbrower2a - 05-26-2016 (05-26-2016, 02:22 PM)Bad Dog Wrote:We are the greatest thing that ever happened to our livestock -- excuse me, our employees.Quote:The company provides networking, broadband, and IT support for businesses that are not large enough to have an enterprise IT department, or those who do not wish to have an IT department (to have someone to fire). RE: Welcome To The Modern Workplace! - Ragnarök_62 - 05-26-2016 Bad Dog Wrote:The company provides networking, broadband, and IT support for businesses that are not large enough to have an enterprise IT department, or those who do not wish to have an IT department (to have someone to fire). That rules out an outfit that is a member of an industry that's in terminal decline. Sears and J C Penney are prime examples of zombiefied outfits which are: 1. Members of a dying industry. 2. Are playthings amongst hedge funds. 3. Hedge funds are the vector which delivers money from suckers to these zombie companies. The hedge funds then fob off shares of said hedge funds to suckers while collecting fees. Quote:The amazing thing is that it not an overseas firm. I agree. I'd reckon that some $.50/hr Chinese livestock could do the jobs at your joint. Quote:It started in Louisiana, and carries on those grand old traditional values. You mean you get off on Christmas and Thanksgiving since those are Qod's holidaze? Quote:The floors are vacuumed every four hours. That's to keep up appearances. Clean floors aren't an indicator of success. Quote:The trash cans are emptied every four hours. Well, now, I'd like to be a janitor at your company. The more often trash cans are emptied, means a lighter overall work load. Quote:Office supplies must be paid for in your own blood (no kleenex for weeks, etc). Use the monitor as a wiping place for snot. Quote:Dog and pony shows for clients are led through our war room, so no IT person can wear tennis shoes, etc. No petting of the dogs or ponies is allowed. No personal items of any kind are allowed in cubicles. Bare cubicles are the default then? Quote:The CEO is an early Boom salesman. Top line revenue is valued. How about bottom line revenue. Profit = Top line revenue - ( costs + taxes) Quote:Anyone fired is immediately shamed by having an email sent to all employees, with photo, stating said person is no longer with the company, and is not allowed in the building.Is this even legal? Quote:Anybody getting a picture of how corporate thinks? Hopefully, you're just there for a gig like arrangement. I'm pretty sure both of our employers will be history before our respective SS edibility time. Here's newsflash. I got a letter from axa.com and apparently my company has a 401K plan and profit sharing. I got extremely irate when our accounting person started blowing smoke up my ass about this finding. So, I called the plan's investment firm, which is aforementioned http://www.axa.com after our accountling lady said there's no such thing and never heard of axa.com. I truly hate being lied to. Some other employees said, yes, such an animal exists as well. I wonder what I can due if I get denied plan entry? |