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RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - pbrower2a - 06-19-2020

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RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - pbrower2a - 07-03-2020

In reference to Donald Trump having a pointless celebration of himself -- excuse me, the Fourth of July in the presence of the heads of great figures of American history who would vomit if they ever found out about President Trump:

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Allusion to Vincent's Starry Night.


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The word disaster is literally derived from the astrological concept that bad positions of the stars in people's lives bring such calamities as sudden death, bankruptcy, criminal convictions, and perhaps even ship sinkings.

In the case of people making a pilgrimage to see the Great and Glorious Leader celebrate the Fourth -- for some that celebration could be their last celebration of the Fourth. COVID-19 kills. If I took no chances with AIDS, I would take none with COVID-19. 

In any event, I have just shown you one of the greatest political cartoons ever. Pulitzer Prize, folks!


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - pbrower2a - 07-14-2020






RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Bob Butler 54 - 07-15-2020

The YouTube algorithm occasionally feeds me songs it thinks I might likely want to hear.  They included one changed lyric anti Trump piece...

In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lier tweets tonight...
Vote him away, vote him away, vote him away...


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Bob Butler 54 - 07-19-2020

I am now thinking that we do not have to worry about bashing Trump 'while we can'. In highs, it is traditional to stomp on the old obsolete values from the prior unraveling. Trump is apt to be a central figure to be bashed upon. I expect even St. Reagan will be a target.


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - pbrower2a - 08-13-2020

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RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - pbrower2a - 08-27-2020

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RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - David Horn - 08-29-2020

(07-19-2020, 07:24 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I am now thinking that we do not have to worry about bashing Trump 'while we can'.  In highs, it is traditional to stomp on the old obsolete values from the prior unraveling.  Trump is apt to be a central figure to be bashed upon.  I expect even St. Reagan will be a target.

This is actually a timely comment.  Big Grin  Finally, after much shedding of unsupportable assumptions, Saint Ronnie's halo is getting a bit tarnished.  I'm enjoying the sense of shock and horror being suffered by Never Trumpers who thought Trump was a complete anomaly until they connected a few of the dots and, viola, they found a few of the seeds of Trump World were planted #40.


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Eric the Green - 08-29-2020

(08-29-2020, 09:56 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(07-19-2020, 07:24 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I am now thinking that we do not have to worry about bashing Trump 'while we can'.  In highs, it is traditional to stomp on the old obsolete values from the prior unraveling.  Trump is apt to be a central figure to be bashed upon.  I expect even St. Reagan will be a target.

This is actually a timely comment.  Big Grin  Finally, after much shedding of unsupportable assumptions, Saint Ronnie's halo is getting a bit tarnished.  I'm enjoying the sense of shock and horror being suffered by Never Trumpers who thought Trump was a complete anomaly until they connected a few of the dots and, viola, they found a few of the seeds of Trump World were planted #40.

Planted by #40 indeed, and more than a few are there to find, too. And what kind of a crop did those seeds produce? By your fruits ye shall know them....


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Bob Butler 54 - 08-30-2020

(08-29-2020, 10:35 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(08-29-2020, 09:56 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(07-19-2020, 07:24 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I am now thinking that we do not have to worry about bashing Trump 'while we can'.  In highs, it is traditional to stomp on the old obsolete values from the prior unraveling.  Trump is apt to be a central figure to be bashed upon.  I expect even St. Reagan will be a target.

This is actually a timely comment.  Big Grin  Finally, after much shedding of unsupportable assumptions, Saint Ronnie's halo is getting a bit tarnished.  I'm enjoying the sense of shock and horror being suffered by Never Trumpers who thought Trump was a complete anomaly until they connected a few of the dots and, viola, they found a few of the seeds of Trump World were planted #40.

Planted by #40 indeed, and more than a few are there to find, too. And what kind of a crop did those seeds produce? By your fruits ye shall know them....

I don't know. We can barely convince a good share of them to think critically about Trump. Should we assault what little brains they have with the concept of thinking critically about St. Reagan? Their heads might explode. Is that a good thing? Smile


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - pbrower2a - 08-30-2020

(07-19-2020, 07:24 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I am now thinking that we do not have to worry about bashing Trump 'while we can'.  In highs, it is traditional to stomp on the old obsolete values from the prior unraveling.  Trump is apt to be a central figure to be bashed upon.  I expect even St. Reagan will be a target.

"Unraveling" values may be the newest values to meet the challenge of a Crisis, and the ones most likely to be destroyed. Such values are most likely to appear among people who believe nothing and do little thinking. Thought takes effort, and it can lead to some distressing revelations. It is easy to appeal to people on visceral and primitive desires, although real progress in life demands that people go beyond the visceral and primitive. 

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is still precious and has an appeal across time and culture. It has no cheap gimmicks, and it has substance or demands that the cellist turn the notes (I could make the case that this is the simplest music that Bach ever wrote). It is Bach, though... 

What is most vulnerable to rejection is ideas and practices that have become shopworn and obsolete. Much stuff gets cast off because it is technologically obsolete, like mainframe computers, CRT televisions (and now not-so-smart flat-screen TV's) and VHS tapes even if they are still functional. Either they are inadequate or they imply costs of space and operation or have become unreliable. I predict that when self-driving cars become the norm (they will, because the insurance companies will make auto insurance prohibitively expensive by the standards of the time or because legislation will be passed to the effect that a human driver is just too dangerous), then huge numbers of cars will be scrapped because they can either not be retrofitted or because they are too valueless for retro-fitting. If we end up with a "cash for clunkers" program to get cars that use too much gasoline for the standards of the time, then people will be selling off such cars that give 20 mpg  for cars that give 30 mpg due to better technology -- maybe some cars that were purchased in "cash for clunkers" deals. My current car, a 2009 model, is a candidate for such a deal.  

In contrast, antiques can be valuable. Although some precious things have been destroyed in calamities, the badly-made stuff from any time has a tendency to be destroyed or abandoned. Bad design or shoddy materials are not good for long-term durability of an object. The Victorian houses that looks so charming are almost as a rule the ones best constructed and on which little cost was spared on details. The flimsy constructions devoid of charm built around 1870 have not lasted. Something else replaced them. The museum-quality antique cars were those that owners babied -- not the ones that people drove hard while never doing an oil change. I remember when huge numbers of cars manufactured in the 1950's, including some with attractive sheet metal, went to automobile graveyards. Collectors have the ones that still drove well in the late 1960's. 

Unraveling eras promote the most superficial and unsustainable ideas and practices because unraveling eras allow people to indulge their worst impulses -- impulses that one cannot indulge in a Crisis and that, after a Crisis, one would find silly in a much-more rational time such as a High. I have known people who as adults in the 1910's and 1920's (one of the few good things about being my age is that I can relate things that many others can't relate because they weren't around to listen or notice) is that although I have seen a commercial market for nostalgia for times from the 1980's back, I have noticed that such goes back only as far as the 1930's. People born in the 1880's and 1890's who had the means of recovering the pop culture of the 1910's and 1920's didn't. That is not for a lack of means even if the Lost were the poorest elders. Not all were, and their kids would have been delighted to supply recreations of the mass culture of the 1910's and the 1920's to parents who asked. There was simply no market. As a rule, nothing is done commercially without a market for it except as an individual expression.  

OK, most of what lasts through a Crisis Era as culture or ideas existed from the last Crisis -- or what is good from times in the preceding Saeculum. George Gershwin may have died in 1937, but his music lived through the Crisis Era even if it was from the Unraveling. It was too good. But the Celebration of Self of the 2T becomes irrelevant when survival is collective or impossible in a Crisis Era, as the Voyage to the Interior is impossible in a foxhole. 

Donald Trump puts together the worst of the Boom Awakening (the extreme narcissism that few people could sustain because they had to concern themselves with economic survival at the cost of their egos), the depraved vulgarity of a degenerate 3T, and the fearful bigotry that arises among dimwits in a 4T. Which of this will survive this Crisis Era? We will all be best off if none of it does.  The late-wave Boomers who had to sell out their dreams for an extended employment in retail or fast food despite such work being far beneath their spirit are still around in large numbers, and they may do more to shape the future than someone so blatantly narcissistic as Trump. Pragmatic X will be looking for what works, and many of them now reject the mindless mass culture that they knew all too well as kids as an unwelcome influence upon their kids -- and many of them established small businesses in the interstices that Corporate America avoided because the MBA's saw too little attraction (no Big Bucks and no potential to monopolize). Millennial adults need to hear a powerful restatement of FDR's "All we have to fear... is Fear Itself". The racists and religious bigots have nothing to offer except fear. Tyrants and cult leaders exploit fear to the fullest... and Trump tried that in the Republican National Convention in 2020. It was little different from the spoof of clip of Trump speech  woven into the famous Apple ad of 1984 shown a few posts back.

Trump is the worst of 2T, 3T, and 4T. In the next High he will live as an example of how not to do things, whether he is dead, in prison, or in a nursing home. I compare him to Milosevich, and he deserves a similar fate.


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Eric the Green - 08-31-2020

Trump gives one of his most important speeches, and he sounded like he was just getting up out of bed. Not the red meat that his audience risked their lives to enjoy!






RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - pbrower2a - 08-31-2020

Yes... he is awful. I could not stand to listen to his speech. But that's nothing new.


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Bob Butler 54 - 08-31-2020

(08-31-2020, 01:40 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Yes... he is awful. I could not stand to listen to his speech. But that's nothing new.

I kept the Trump speech on my TV.  I held it as my patriotic duty.  Of course, I did keep the TV muted.  I just had to know when Rachel and the rest came on following his speech.  I found Trump isn't so bad as long as you can hit the mute button.


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - David Horn - 08-31-2020

(08-30-2020, 12:41 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(08-29-2020, 10:35 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(08-29-2020, 09:56 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(07-19-2020, 07:24 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I am now thinking that we do not have to worry about bashing Trump 'while we can'.  In highs, it is traditional to stomp on the old obsolete values from the prior unraveling.  Trump is apt to be a central figure to be bashed upon.  I expect even St. Reagan will be a target.

This is actually a timely comment.  Big Grin  Finally, after much shedding of unsupportable assumptions, Saint Ronnie's halo is getting a bit tarnished.  I'm enjoying the sense of shock and horror being suffered by Never Trumpers who thought Trump was a complete anomaly until they connected a few of the dots and, viola, they found a few of the seeds of Trump World were planted #40.

Planted by #40 indeed, and more than a few are there to find, too. And what kind of a crop did those seeds produce? By your fruits ye shall know them....

I don't know.  We can barely convince a good share of them to think critically about Trump.  Should we assault what little brains they have with the concept of thinking critically about St. Reagan?  Their heads might explode.  Is that a good thing?  Smile

It depends entirely on the direction of the explosion.  Tongue


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Eric the Green - 09-02-2020

John Oliver reviews the convention consisting of lies told in front of flags, during a week when police shot a black citizen in the back and offered drinks to a white vigilante killer.






RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Bob Butler 54 - 09-17-2020

YouTube had an amusing headline, or at least it is amusing in New England.  There was a suggestion that for the first time there was something normal occurring in 2020! 

The Jets were still the Jets.


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020

Covita


RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Eric the Green - 10-07-2020

Seth describes the debased debacle






RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - Eric the Green - 10-09-2020