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Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - newvoter - 03-03-2021
Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium
https://nypost.com/2021/02/07/biden-us-wont-lift-sanctions-unless-iran-stops-enriching-uranium/
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Eric the Green - 03-03-2021
Who goes first? I say that since Biden attacked Iranian militia, Biden should go first now and lift sanctions. Does he want peace or not? It was the USA that pulled out of the Iran deal and put on new sanctions while Iran was still complying with the treaty.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Einzige - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 02:21 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Who goes first? I say that since Biden attacked Iranian militia, Biden should go first now and lift sanctions. Does he want peace or not? It was the USA that pulled out of the Iran deal and put on new sanctions while Iran was still complying with the treaty.
Liberals are so fjcking stupid. Of course he doesn't want peace. America, as a whole, wants war with Iran.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - newvoter - 03-03-2021
Exactly.
No one cares about the big picture.
Americans used to be outraged about Bruce Jenner, Greta Thunberg, statues, Epstein, Smollett, and George Floyd.
Now Americans have lost their minds about Biden, but no one cares that the US is a bankrupt warmongering police state.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - pbrower2a - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 02:26 AM)Einzige Wrote:(03-03-2021, 02:21 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Who goes first? I say that since Biden attacked Iranian militia, Biden should go first now and lift sanctions. Does he want peace or not? It was the USA that pulled out of the Iran deal and put on new sanctions while Iran was still complying with the treaty.
Liberals are so fjcking stupid. Of course he doesn't want peace. America, as a whole, wants war with Iran.
Iran has a totalitarian regime with a vision of world revolution emanating from Iran, a corrupt hierarchy of clerics responsible only to God (God is always silent, but the clerics interpret such as consent... and nobody has the freedom to say otherwise), a heritage of being armed to the teeth (one thing that it inherited from the Pahlavi dynasty), and sadistic repression of dissent. Anyone who fails to agree with the Ayatollahs can strangle while dangling. It is a merciless, inequitable order whose elites have the arrogance to believe that theirs is the best of all possible worlds and anyone who believes otherwise is damned to Hell.
One of the great tragedies of history was the downfall of the Sassanid empire and with it the glorious cultural heritage of pre-Islamic Persia. Zoroastrianism was a major world religion with influence even upon Judaism.
I recall a quip from Henry Kissinger about the Iran-Iraq war between Saddam Hussein and the Islamic Republic;
"I wish they could both lose".
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Bob Butler 54 - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 02:57 AM)newvoter Wrote: Now Americans have lost their minds about Biden, but no one cares that the US is a bankrupt warmongering police state.
Possibly because we are printing money as usual, there are no shooting wars we are involved in, and while there are still bad cops we want law and order more than we worry about the police.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - newvoter - 03-03-2021
Does anyone get the feeling that anyone supporting the police state now is a paid NSA shill?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Einzige - 03-03-2021
(03-03-2021, 05:45 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:And.... is completely incapable of acting on any of that.(03-03-2021, 02:26 AM)Einzige Wrote:(03-03-2021, 02:21 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Who goes first? I say that since Biden attacked Iranian militia, Biden should go first now and lift sanctions. Does he want peace or not? It was the USA that pulled out of the Iran deal and put on new sanctions while Iran was still complying with the treaty.
Liberals are so fjcking stupid. Of course he doesn't want peace. America, as a whole, wants war with Iran.
Iran has a totalitarian regime with a vision of world revolution emanating from Iran, a corrupt hierarchy of clerics responsible only to God (God is always silent, but the clerics interpret such as consent... and nobody has the freedom to say otherwise), a heritage of being armed to the teeth (one thing that it inherited from the Pahlavi dynasty), and sadistic repression of dissent. Anyone who fails to agree with the Ayatollahs can strangle while dangling. It is a merciless, inequitable order whose elites have the arrogance to believe that theirs is the best of all possible worlds and anyone who believes otherwise is damned to Hell.
There's zero difference between you and Bush-era Republicans. You're just as worthless. I'd love to take every hawkish Scoop Jackson neoliberal cultural crusader and drop them off a building. The New Republc reading ultrahawks of the Democratic Party contribute absolutely nothing to publicize except a fever dream of imperialism disguised as liberal internationalism. You are the enemy. You are a conservative with prettier words.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - March3 - 03-03-2021
A bird born in a cage think birds who can fly are crazy.
Americans do not know history, cannot recognize hypocrisy, and do not understand unintended consequences.
Americans love the government and vehemently attack anyone who criticizes their beloved government overlords.
Americans scream anyone loves freedom is a Commie and a nutjob.
In Chile, females were raped by the government and then forced to watch government workers cut off the ears, noses, and eyes of their family members. If they got pregnant, the distraught females said that their only wish was to have their baby be born so that they could kill it.
In the Soviet Union, doing nothing was a crime punishable with a 10 year sentence in the gulag. Some of of the torture methods were isolation, putting prisoners in a box with thousands of bedbugs, starvation, sleep deprivation, hard labor, and freezing.
The collapse of the USA is one of the most shocking and disgusting events in world history.
Americans used to believe in morality, personal responsibility, freedom, peace, and balanced budgets. Now Americans love immorality, welfare, tyranny, war, and debt.
Americans don't even shrug now that everything is illegal, everyone is under house arrest, the border is closed, there is martial law, elections are cancelled, churches are being shut, reporters and lawyers are being arrested, protests are illegal, guns are banned, there is NSA wiretapping, forfeiture, CIA torture, extrajudicial assassination, and secret police.
Americans don't care that the national anthem and US flag will be changed soon, property will be nationalized, and statues are being destroyed. Americans don't mind that DHS agents patrol the streets in vans and throw black hoods on Americans and disappear them.
Soon the Internet will be shut off, concentration camps will open, books will be burned, propaganda loudspeakers will be set up on street corners, there will be show trials, summary executions, death squads, killing fields, cities will be liquidated, and Americans will be pushed into ovens and made into lampshades.
Every country has the government it deserves.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - David Horn - 03-04-2021
(03-03-2021, 08:14 PM)March3 Wrote: A bird born in a cage think birds who can fly are crazy.
...
Every country has the government it deserves.
Welcome back, again. Behave this time.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - girlmonday - 03-04-2021
The US will look like North Korea.
The USA is headed for a fall.
The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state now, but Americans cannot vote for change because the US is no longer a democracy, the election machines can be hacked, the only candidates are Nazis or Communists, and Americans are too degraded to vote for someone who supports freedom.
Once the stock market crashes, guns will be banned, property will be nationalized, the Internet will be shut down, starting a business will be illegal, the tax rate will be 100%, and Americans will be required to work at government jobs.
The world will have a global government, but there will be still be borders. Countries will be set up as zones and prisons will be the size of cities. The elites do not want people to fly from Chile to Russia because a mobile population is hard to control.
Americans should sell their homes and cars now and be mobile. Don't carry a cellphone around. Property owners become a target because of property taxes. Consider burying your firearms or starting an anonymous shell corporation or a nonprofit church to buy property.
Practice civil disobedience. Why obey the law or pay taxes that you didn't vote for? The government and illegal aliens don't obey the law, why should Americans?
The are some Americans who still say the USA is a free and peaceful country with a balanced budget. Americans who have never been arrested or beaten by the police and get food stamps might view the government as kind.
People can tolerate a great deal of government abuse. Even the Chinese say that they live in a free country.
Americans today need to urgently start trying to wake people and promote freedom.
Americans must tell the government workers, soldiers, and the Gestapo that they are puppets for the elites.
The government agents who insist that they are doing good and justify their paychecks should be mocked.
Everyone has a breaking point.
A large-scale organized resistance is not likely because of NSA wiretapping, so patriots will need to use of word of mouth, speak in code, and operate as lone wolves.
The media will portray Nazis and Communists as normal and say anyone who loves freedom is a rightwing terrorist and nutjob.
When guns are outlawed, patriots will use trucks and airplanes as weapons against government buildings.
Patriotic soldiers might surrender weapons to the rebels.
Americans must be obsessed about spreading freedom now.
Americans who are complacent today about tyranny are naive. The elites are clearly determined about killing off the 99%.
If Americans have no rights now, why would the ruling powers stop? If plastic bags were outlawed yesterday and straws were banned today then what would stop the 1% from banning carpet tomorrow?
The founding fathers loved freedom and knew tyranny would grow, but how could the founders know that the elites would have Obamacare? Freedom is good, but unfortunately there is no constitutional right to have the freedom to own a snowblower.
The government cannot help you. Americans used to be able to trust the police and were surprised that people in the 3rd world did not, but now you see why.
The US collapse is certain. All that is unknown is when. Will the elites be able to kick the debt can down the road for another 5, 10, or 50 years?
If the US today is a police state and tomorrow will be worse, why not get this party started?
Americans want to live in bankrupt warmongering police state because Americans accept it. The US is not a bankrupt warmongering police state because of blacks, Jews, Muslims, fags, and Mexicans. YOU are the reason the USA is collapsing.
Do you think that things would change in the USA if 60 million Americans protested in Washington, DC? What would happen if everyone in Congress and governors suddenly died?
What happened to Caligula?
https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/madness-caligula-rome-s-cruelest-emperor-002132
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Bob Butler 54 - 03-04-2021
(03-04-2021, 10:20 AM)David Horn Wrote:(03-03-2021, 08:14 PM)March3 Wrote: A bird born in a cage think birds who can fly are crazy.
...
Every country has the government it deserves.
Welcome back, again. Behave this time.
Fat chance.
Should we get at least one moderator who is serious about enforcing forum policy?
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Einzige - 03-04-2021
Quote: The founding fathers loved freedom
No they didn't lol
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - girlmonday - 03-04-2021
Wow.
Americans scream tyranny is wonderful because the US has always been a police state, but what if
the USA used to have freedom and lost it?
Even if the US never had freedom, does
that mean liberty is bad?
Did the USA have curfews, NSA
wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to
the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, redlight cameras, license plate readers, and Jade Helm in 1980?
Did Americans need a pilot license in 1920 to fly a plane?
Did Americans have gun bans, business licenses, Social Security numbers, sales, income, or property taxes in 1890?
Were drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, and prostitution illegal in 1880?
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - pbrower2a - 03-04-2021
(03-03-2021, 01:55 PM)Einzige Wrote:(03-03-2021, 05:45 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:And.... is completely incapable of acting on any of that.(03-03-2021, 02:26 AM)Einzige Wrote:(03-03-2021, 02:21 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Who goes first? I say that since Biden attacked Iranian militia, Biden should go first now and lift sanctions. Does he want peace or not? It was the USA that pulled out of the Iran deal and put on new sanctions while Iran was still complying with the treaty.
Liberals are so fjcking stupid. Of course he doesn't want peace. America, as a whole, wants war with Iran.
Iran has a totalitarian regime with a vision of world revolution emanating from Iran, a corrupt hierarchy of clerics responsible only to God (God is always silent, but the clerics interpret such as consent... and nobody has the freedom to say otherwise), a heritage of being armed to the teeth (one thing that it inherited from the Pahlavi dynasty), and sadistic repression of dissent. Anyone who fails to agree with the Ayatollahs can strangle while dangling. It is a merciless, inequitable order whose elites have the arrogance to believe that theirs is the best of all possible worlds and anyone who believes otherwise is damned to Hell.
There's zero difference between you and Bush-era Republicans. You're just as worthless. I'd love to take every hawkish Scoop Jackson neoliberal cultural crusader and drop them off a building. The New Republc reading ultrahawks of the Democratic Party contribute absolutely nothing to publicize except a fever dream of imperialism disguised as liberal internationalism. You are the enemy. You are a conservative with prettier words.
You just exposed yourself. I will give up my "hawk" tendency when the Bad Guys are all no more. Sure, dreaming about a world without evil people is just as utopian as believing in some Marxist dream of a super-prosperous society devoid of economic inequality. My sorts of villains include the likes of the late and unlamented Chemical Ali. I do not care what Chemical Ali's ideology is. I hate violent people, and you have just exposed yourself for what you are. To be sure there are people who have nothing wrong with them that a well-tied rope and a seven-foot drop wouldn't solve -- like Chemical Ali.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - girlmonday - 03-04-2021
WTF?
The entire country is committing suicide.
Americans scream North Korea is evil for having torture and nuclear weapons, but the US also tortures and has nuclear bombs.
Americans swear Obama was an asshole for supporting wars, debt, and the police state, but Trump also loves wars, debt, and tyranny.
Americans say tyranny is wonderful, but Americans are completely unable to explain why the suicide rate is soaring.
The very same Americans who insist Cuba is a shithole then turn around and say that the USA should become Communist.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Einzige - 03-04-2021
Your logic is impeccable.
"Iran has a totalitarian vision of world revolution which we must fight! With our neoconservative totalitarian vision of world revolution!"
Boomers are worthless. Liberals are worthless.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Bob Butler 54 - 03-04-2021
(03-04-2021, 08:00 PM)Einzige Wrote:Quote: The founding fathers loved freedom
No they didn't lol
They did much better than the supposedly Marxist revolutions did. The US Revolution and to a lesser extent the French spread the ideas of the Enlightenment to some degree. Human rights. Democracy. Equality. It was not perfect. They wound up with an emperor in France, for example. What are they, up to the Fifth Republic? But they at least advocated some way for the people to check the elites who wound up in government. The so called Marxists? The Party would become the new elite and ignore the people.
Again, revolution without a way for the people to check the elites is a counterproductive idea. I do see the division of wealth as becoming the dominant in a near future turning. It is hardly guaranteed that the autocratic cultures will listen to the people, but will instead try to use their monopoly of violence to keep the people subdued. But in the democratic cultures, qhwew violence is a last resort, it won't go violent in the Information Age.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - Downtown20 - 03-04-2021
The government does not police itself. Government workers are not kind saints.
When a business sucks, it goes bankrupt. When the government sucks, it gets bigger.
Do you realize that the USA is supposed to be a free country?
Do you realize that the USA is no longer a democracy?
Do you realize that the USA fought the British, the Nazis, the North Koreans, and Saddam because tyranny is bad?
Do you think government workers are more moral than you are?
Do you think the government can live your life better than you do?
Does the government spend your money better than you do?
Do you realize that you no longer have any rights?
Do you realize that everything is illegal now?
Do you realize that personal responsibility means to be responsible for your actions, not being forced by the government?
Do you realize that you no longer have the right to free speech?
Do you realize that no longer have religious freedom?
Do you realize that guns are illegal?
Do you realize that your web browsing, emails and, phone calls are being wiretapped?
Do you realize that you no longer have property rights?
Do you realize that the TSA will grope you if you travel?
Do you realize that you no longer have the right to remain silent?
Do you realize that government can indefinitely detain you without trial?
Do you realize that the government can torture you?
Do you realize that the government can extrajudicially assassinate you?
Do you realize the USA is bankrupt?
Do you realize that the USA is a warmonger?
Wake up.
RE: Biden says US won’t lift sanctions unless Iran stops enriching uranium - beechnut79 - 03-04-2021
(03-04-2021, 10:16 PM)Downtown20 Wrote: The government does not police itself. Government workers are not kind saints.
When a business sucks, it goes bankrupt. When the government sucks, it gets bigger.
Do you realize that the USA is supposed to be a free country?
Do you realize that the USA is no longer a democracy?
Do you realize that the USA fought the British, the Nazis, the North Koreans, and Saddam because tyranny is bad?
Do you think government workers are more moral than you are?
Do you think the government can live your life better than you do?
Does the government spend your money better than you do?
Do you realize that you no longer have any rights?
Do you realize that everything is illegal now?
Do you realize that personal responsibility means to be responsible for your actions, not being forced by the government?
Do you realize that you no longer have the right to free speech?
Do you realize that no longer have religious freedom?
Do you realize that guns are illegal?
Do you realize that your web browsing, emails and, phone calls are being wiretapped?
Do you realize that you no longer have property rights?
Do you realize that the TSA will grope you if you travel?
Do you realize that you no longer have the right to remain silent?
Do you realize that government can indefinitely detain you without trial?
Do you realize that the government can torture you?
Do you realize that the government can extrajudicially assassinate you?
Do you realize the USA is bankrupt?
Do you realize that the USA is a warmonger?
Wake up.
Was looking for a sentence concerning illegal break ins and seizures. Anjanette Young should be a household name for that. She is the Chicago social worker whose house was broken into by mistake rather than the house next door. Authorities wouldn’t even allow her to get dressed during the invasion thus robbing her of her dignity. A new law was just passed in Chicago under her name regarding such seizures in the future.