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The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - Dan '82 - 07-25-2016
The growing divide by socio-economic status among whites isn’t good news.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/upshot/the-one-demographic-that-is-hurting-hillary-clinton.html?smid=tw-upshotnyt&smtyp=cur&_r=0
Quote:The list of voting groups generally alienated by Donald J. Trump is long: Hispanics, women, the young, the college educated and more. How is it that he’s in such a close race with Hillary Clinton?
The answer lies with a group that still represented nearly half of all voters in 2012: white voters without a college degree, and particularly white men without a degree.
Mrs. Clinton is showing enormous weakness with this group. And these voters are supporting Mr. Trump in larger numbers than they supported Mitt Romney four years ago. It’s enough to keep the election close. It could even be enough for him to win...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/upshot/the-one-demographic-that-is-hurting-hillary-clinton.html?smid=tw-upshotnyt&smtyp=cur&_r=0
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - Eric the Green - 07-25-2016
Yes, Trump just loves the poorly-educated. No doubt.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - Classic-Xer - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 11:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Yes, Trump just loves the poorly-educated. No doubt.
Don't worry, you still have the bulk of the poorly educated available in your market.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - Eric the Green - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 11:31 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(07-25-2016, 11:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Yes, Trump just loves the poorly-educated. No doubt.
Don't worry, you still have the bulk of the poorly educated available in your market.
I hope we have more poorly-educated non-whites for our gal, than you have poorly-educated whites for your guy! But, if not, we can make up for it with well-educated blacks/browns AND whites for the gal! Seems doable.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - Kinser79 - 07-26-2016
(07-25-2016, 11:31 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(07-25-2016, 11:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Yes, Trump just loves the poorly-educated. No doubt.
Don't worry, you still have the bulk of the poorly educated available in your market.
Actually I would say that their market is those who are educated beyond their means. Education has nothing to do with intelligence which is innate to a a person whereas education is an activity that one engages in.
That said, yes Trump does have strong support with the white working classes (blue and white collar). Interestingly it seems he's picking up traction in states like Texas, FL and elsewhere with working Blacks and Latinos, particularly those Latinos that entered the country legally or are native born citizens. It seems that those who actually have worked or are working understand that importing cheap labor depresses their wages.
Also Shillary wanting to import the very folks who what to throw gays off roof tops in Syria is losing her the gay demographic which is has started to openly discuss kicking out the T.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - Galen - 07-26-2016
(07-26-2016, 03:08 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: That said, yes Trump does have strong support with the white working classes (blue and white collar). Interestingly it seems he's picking up traction in states like Texas, FL and elsewhere with working Blacks and Latinos, particularly those Latinos that entered the country legally or are native born citizens. It seems that those who actually have worked or are working understand that importing cheap labor depresses their wages.
There is also the fact that they came to America and would prefer that it didn't turn into Mexico or whatever third-world shit hole they escaped from. Not hard to figure that one out.
(07-26-2016, 03:08 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Also Shillary wanting to import the very folks who what to throw gays off roof tops in Syria is losing her the gay demographic which is has started to openly discuss kicking out the T.
In the face of that it is rather hard to scare the homosexuals with home grown Christians and Republicans. After Orlando they started to figure out why having firearms can be helpful if you are a minority.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - playwrite - 07-26-2016
They are the descendants, in spirit if not genetic, of the 10s of thousands of poor Southern Whites that went to their slaughter in the 1860's to protect, against their own economic self interest, the most evil institute known.
The plantation elite then, and the financial elites now, know exactly how to manipulate these xenophobic sheeple.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - Anthony '58 - 07-26-2016
Quote:They are the descendants, in spirit if not genetic, of the 10s of thousands of poor Southern Whites that went to their slaughter in the 1860's to protect, against their own economic self interest, the most evil institute known.
The plantation elite then, and the financial elites now, know exactly how to manipulate these xenophobic sheeple.
The only problem with this analysis that at least as many of these "sheeple" are white ethnics from in and around the Northeastern and Rust Belt cities, descendants of people who weren't even in this country when The War Between The States went down.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - playwrite - 07-26-2016
(07-26-2016, 07:56 AM)Anthony Wrote:Quote:They are the descendants, in spirit if not genetic, of the 10s of thousands of poor Southern Whites that went to their slaughter in the 1860's to protect, against their own economic self interest, the most evil institute known.
The plantation elite then, and the financial elites now, know exactly how to manipulate these xenophobic sheeple.
The only problem with this analysis that at least as many of these "sheeple" are white ethnics from in and around the Northeastern and Rust Belt cities, descendants of people who weren't even in this country when The War Between The States went down.
That's why I emphasized "in spirit" - it's their clueless following of the memes provided then (1860; states rights, the Southern Way) and now (2016; Mexicans are taking their jobs, all Muslims are terrorists) that binds them across time as the manipulated sheeple of their contemporary elites.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - pbrower2a - 07-27-2016
(07-26-2016, 09:42 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(07-26-2016, 07:56 AM)Anthony Wrote:Quote:They are the descendants, in spirit if not genetic, of the 10s of thousands of poor Southern Whites that went to their slaughter in the 1860's to protect, against their own economic self interest, the most evil institute known.
The plantation elite then, and the financial elites now, know exactly how to manipulate these xenophobic sheeple.
The only problem with this analysis that at least as many of these "sheeple" are white ethnics from in and around the Northeastern and Rust Belt cities, descendants of people who weren't even in this country when The War Between The States went down.
You have a point. In addition to the classic hillbillies, there are now a new class of hillbillies, the so called Northern ethnics whose hatred of blacks has made them go insane.
Many may be afraid that their precious children will marry and have children by blacks. If one has any discernible ancestry in sub-Saharan Africa, then whatever culture one's other heritage one's ancestors had does not matter. (An exception may be among Jews if the religion is still Jewish, in which case the religion overpowers 'race'). Such is a corollary of the One-Drop rule. We all know that black people just can't get J S Bach (irony intended).
It's the black middle-class that is more of a threat to 'racial purity' (ironically it is American blacks who typically have some discernible white ancestry and are thus 'impure') than is the vile, repugnant street thug. For some white people marrying into the black middle class would be an improvement in their lives. A black street thug might attract white low life or impregnate a white female through a rape (pregnancy to be solved with abortion or adoption), but that requires a successful crime. It's the black person who can appreciate Bach or Puccini who might entice a white person who loves Bach or Puccini into marriage.
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - The Wonkette - 07-27-2016
(07-27-2016, 07:08 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:Absolutely. My life has certainly become much happier and fulfilled since finding a partner who shares my dreams and cares for me (and I care for him) who happens to be a middle-aged, middle-class African American male.(07-26-2016, 09:42 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(07-26-2016, 07:56 AM)Anthony Wrote:Quote:They are the descendants, in spirit if not genetic, of the 10s of thousands of poor Southern Whites that went to their slaughter in the 1860's to protect, against their own economic self interest, the most evil institute known.
The plantation elite then, and the financial elites now, know exactly how to manipulate these xenophobic sheeple.
The only problem with this analysis that at least as many of these "sheeple" are white ethnics from in and around the Northeastern and Rust Belt cities, descendants of people who weren't even in this country when The War Between The States went down.
You have a point. In addition to the classic hillbillies, there are now a new class of hillbillies, the so called Northern ethnics whose hatred of blacks has made them go insane.
For some white people marrying into the black middle class would be an improvement in their lives (especially if they both share a love of Toastmasters -- added by the Wonkette).
RE: The One Demographic That Is Hurting Hillary Clinton - pbrower2a - 07-28-2016
I was referring to economics and not to getting a richer life by getting some fulfilling companionship.