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Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - nebraska - 01-26-2018

Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal

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RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - David Horn - 01-26-2018

(01-26-2018, 10:57 AM)nebraska Wrote: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal

The IRS was interested in organizations that misused the 501c3 designation to avoid taxes. 90+% of them were RW front groups. That's what they found so that's where they looked. Demagoguing that as some attempt to harass and punish conservative groups only works if the IRS ignored other groups using the same techniques, or only acted on the conservative groups. They did neither. QED.

Where's your case? On the other hand, Lerner has a case against the harassing Congress for violations of the Civil Service Act.


RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - nebraska - 01-27-2018

This feels like Obama's 3rd term.


RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - pbrower2a - 01-27-2018

(01-27-2018, 12:57 AM)nebraska Wrote: This feels like Obama's 3rd term.

Then you must be numb, as Obama and Trump could hardly be more different in style, agenda, and MO.


RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - nebraska - 01-27-2018

How can Americans sleep at night while the USA is collapsing?

Soros, Obama, Clinton, and Trump all support endless wars, debt, and tyranny. What's the difference?

Has Trump opposed trade wars, starting wars with Iran, Mexico, China, Russia, and North Korea, driving up the debt, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious freedom, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the elites.

The time for supporting Trump has ended and the time for buying gold, guns, and food has arrived.

Wake up. Think. Spread the word. Dark times are coming.


RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - David Horn - 01-27-2018

(01-27-2018, 05:17 AM)nebraska Wrote: How can Americans sleep at night while the USA is collapsing?

Soros, Obama, Clinton, and Trump all support endless wars, debt, and tyranny. What's the difference?

Has Trump opposed trade wars, starting wars with Iran, Mexico, China, Russia, and North Korea, driving up the debt, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious freedom, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the elites.

The time for supporting Trump has ended and the time for buying gold, guns, and food has arrived.

Wake up. Think. Spread the word. Dark times are coming.

When you finally emerge from puberty, things will look less dire.  Trust me.   Big Grin


RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - nebraska - 01-27-2018

Most people would prefer to ignore a hard fact than face it.

The elites control Wall Street, the media, Hollywood, corporations, and the government.

The 1% supports debt, wars, regulations, global warming, diversity, welfare, tyranny, immorality, abortion, feminism, vaccines, and homosexuality.

Anyone who supports these issues are just tools for the globalists.

The ruling class wants to kill off the strong white men and then send the weak liberal females, blacks, illlegal immigrants, and Muslims to the gulags where they will be starved and killed. The elites will then divide the wealth and land of the US among themselves.

The elites are trying to weaken Americans by making everything illegal and making Americans dependent on welfare while allowing millions of illegal immigrants to flood the country and offshoring jobs.

The 1% is trying to start wars to make money for defense companies, reduce the population, protect Israel, increase refugees, and distract Americans.

The solution to the USA collapse is more freedom, not more government.

Those who think socialism will save the US only need to look at the socialist disasters in America's ghettoes, Indian reservations, Appalachia, the USSR, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Western Europe.

More regulations won't save the USA because more laws only punish the 99% and not the elites. The 1% write the laws, have relationships, have lawyers, and control the government.

Laws have unintended consequences.

Gun control makes the state stronger.

Minimum wages kill the economy and raise prices.

Voting won't work because the elites give campaign donations and cushy job promises to the politicians and the election machines can be hacked.

A constitutional convention won't work because the Bill of Rights is being ignored now. There is no rule of law anymore. The law only means what the government says it is.

Protesting won't work because protesting is illegal.

Secession might lead to a civil war that would be extremely bloody because the US government has helicopters, guns, grenades, aircraft carriers, jets, drones, and nuclear bombs.

Perhaps the most practical solution to the US collapse is to just drop out, go off the grid, become a nameless and stateless nomad, work off the books, don't pay taxes, don't obey the law, drain the welfare system, don't deal with the state, and don't get gun licenses, driver licenses, business licenses, or fishing licenses.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.


RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - pbrower2a - 01-27-2018

(01-27-2018, 11:50 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(01-27-2018, 05:17 AM)nebraska Wrote: How can Americans sleep at night while the USA is collapsing?

Soros, Obama, Clinton, and Trump all support endless wars, debt, and tyranny. What's the difference?

Has Trump opposed trade wars, starting wars with Iran, Mexico, China, Russia, and North Korea, driving up the debt, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious freedom, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the elites.

The time for supporting Trump has ended and the time for buying gold, guns, and food has arrived.

Wake up. Think. Spread the word. Dark times are coming.

When you finally emerge from puberty, things will look less dire.  Trust me.   Big Grin

Or if things really do look dire it will be because things are dire (such as as military no-man's zone passing through where you happen to be stuck). This is a Crisis Era. Any bet that the world will be 'normal' throughout the next ten years or so is a sucker bet. We have the most pathological leadership in American history, and it looks like the sort that can either bumble or connive its way into catastrophe.

I think that conservatives are going to miss Barack Obama very soon. Donald Trump can vilify him all he wants, but reality has its way of dealing with liars, crooks, cranks, finanglers, and fools in charge of anything big -- and especially those fools who decide to follow.

We Americans were lucky in the last Crisis. In the alternative-history novel The Man in the High Castle, Philip K. Dick has as his premise of Axis victory that FDR was assassinated instead of grazed, and the parallel story "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy" a parallel world in many ways to ours in which FDR survives and becomes "the strongest American leader since Lincoln". Donald Trump is as far from a Lincolnesque, FDR-like, or some composite of Founding Fathers of the American Revolution is possible. Donald Trump has made assumptions about politics and has adopted practices that I see contrary to everything that I could have expected in high-school civics or college-level social studies courses. Donald Trump has been intensifying the political polarization that has been growing since the 1980s. In dangerous times we need to unify, respecting the interests of the least-well-off and giving people incentives to behave better. We cannot afford the abuse of power in enriching and pampering irresponsible elites.

American cities looked at the end of WWII much like they began, but only because the American mainland was out of the range of the bombers of the gangster regimes of the Axis Powers. The tools of mass death are even more effective, and their reach goes far longer than they did in WWII. Just imagine whaet the Nazis could have done had they had nuclear weapons that they could launch from submarines. I can imagine the first symbolic target -- a very large Jewish community in New York City. Then of course the industrial behemoths of Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, and Pittsburgh; Washington DC, of course, and the giant oil center of Houston. Let's put it this way: take an utterly immoral regime with a reckless leader, and the Empire of Northern Korea, a pathetic economic power but rich in military equipment, scares us because its mercurial leader can order a missile launch capable of hitting seemingly anything in the USA.

Making wrecked buildings and infrastructure usable again and being able to make compromised institutions operate anew in the wake of a debacle will be precious. Because there will be multitudes in need of medical care and physical rehabilitation, so physicians, nurses, and physical therapists will be first in line for getting needs met. Agriculture will recover first, as was true throughout ravaged Europe after WWII. People able to meet the most basic human needs (medical professionals, skilled workers, and farmers) will be the second to get the fullest rations of food, fuel, and marginally-livable housing, after only the political and military administrators. Cash left over from the good times? Your cash in hand and your bank balances are government debt. No government, or a government that repudiates the obligations of the previous government, means that your cash is most useful as toilet paper or wallpaper and that that assets denominated in dollars are worthless. Gold, antiques, and jewelry will be good for dealing at rip-off terms at the local black market. An ounce of gold might be exchangeable for about 20 gallons of gasoline or about a week's worth of food now available on SNAP. Government bonds? Worthless if your country lost the war, and devalued through inflation if your country scrapes by as  a winner. Corporate bonds? Likewise. Corporate stock? Greatly devalued to reflect the damage to industrial locations. Business? The government will try to suppress shysters, but the line between free markets and black markets will be thin. If the company in which you have an investment is deemed to have participated in war crimes, then your passive investment will be reallocated -- confiscated perhaps as reparations either to the victors or compensation to victims of the regime.

The best asset that one could have at the end of the Crisis will be the ability to make the world work again. Most of the old stores of wealth, including bank balances, will be greatly devalued. Bureaucratic connections? Being part of the bureaucratic elite in the old days will make one an object of derision, if not prosecution. The privileged elite from the old days won't have much standing. Ability and the willingness to do hard, dangerous work under the most unpleasant conditions possible will be the most reliable means of survival. Passive ownership of assets will be worthless.

One thing about a Crisis Era is that we get no guidance from people who have lived through the last one except as accounts that people have forgotten to read.

My suggestion for America's youth: get a trade (especially building trades) or choose a profession wisely. Law could be a good one if the political order is really corrupted as it was in Hitlerland. Engineering, medicine, even teaching (because the syllabus could be very different if America has become an Evil Empire before it is defeated). Getting the necessities of life will be more difficult than finding work, as I understand was the case in Germany -- all four zones. If you live on a farm, stick with it. Financial analyst? There will be little to analyze. Accounting? There will be few remaining assets for which to account. The celebrity circus? The money for rich contracts will not be there for a while.

There will be plenty of honest, real work. Don't be scared of it; so long as your employer meets your basic needs it will be good for your mental and physical health. Heck, you might prefer farm labor because you will always be sure of getting food, which might be much in doubt for people who decide to stay in the rubble because they 'left (their) heart(s) in San Francisco'. Easy money? It will be gone. Considering how badly we Americans have dealt with it in recent years, that might not be a bad thing. The closer that we get to having to reward people for their toil and not for connections or their ability to kiss up and kick down, the more equity we will have.

Americans will recover. But the basics will come first, long before the depravity that starts to slip in in an Awakening Era and metastasizes in a Degeneracy.


RE: Trump DOJ declines to charge Lois Lerner, a key figure in IRS scandal - nebraska - 01-27-2018

Every time the government bombs a country, bans free speech, confiscates guns, wiretaps people, seizes property, tortures, and kills people then you are responsible.

Silence means consent.

You would be naive to think that the government won't get worse or that you will never be a victim of government abuse.

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