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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - pbrower2a - 08-23-2021 (08-23-2021, 02:07 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 23-Aug-2021 World View: The FBI and the Staged Insurrection That makes about as much sense as saying that Roman Polanski staged the Tate-LaBianca murders by the Manson cult. Just because Roman Polanski was then capable of staging a convincing movie and has done some sleazy things since then does not mean that he would arrange some horrible murders. Maybe the vast majority of people in the Capitol building were snookered into what they considered a peaceful protest, taking the words of Donald Trump literally. They are that gullible. But there were some monstrously-vile deeds. Attacking police officers is an inexcusable crime. Illicit behavior that has gullibility or stupidity behind it often becomes catastrophe. Now here's what I can't understand: the counting of the electoral vote was a formality that usually gets little attention in the media because it simply ratifies what we know. It's ordinarily about as predictable as elections in Commie countries, which explains why American news media paid little attention to Commie elections. We all know that in accordance with law an election for President and Vice-President (and for many different public offices) was held on November 3, 2020, and in accordance with laws defining the procedure of the election and the count. If you dislike the result, then welcome to the club. Few people vote "right" in all elections and are satisfied with the results of all Presidential elections. If the riotous mob really had taken over the Capitol building long enough, then the official meeting of the electors could have taken place in some other place and still been official -- let us say a pro hockey rink or pro basketball court, a giant theater or concert hall (the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts), the Pentagon, or a giant college hall. A hint: the US Naval Academy is in Annapolis. Quote:It's not even clear that "trespassing" was a crime on January 6, since Getting into a building contrary to authorization, going into a part of a building in which one is not authorized to go, or remaining in that building after one has no permission to stay there is burglary. About the only exceptions involve an assumption of permission (thus police doing an authorized raid on a drug den or firefighters breaking into a house to rescue people or fight a fire are not burglars even if they break in, and I wouldn't press charges on someone who broke into my house for shelter from a tornado. People have no right to disrupt a session of Congress or to do a partisan protest. A Black Lives Matter protest or a Gay Pride event would be at least as unlawful. The Capitol is the wrong place for the expression of partisan politics through shouting, parading, or introducing flags. I don't ordinarily predict the results of trials not yet completed, but in general, those who have more mitigating factors in their favor get off lightly if convicted. There's a wide variety of behavior, and those that do not involve security breaches or overt violence and did not organize the riot will get slaps on the wrist. Quote:But many of the so-called "insurrectionists" were simply standing Simply standing on the steps? That would be innocuous. Supporting Donald Trump is not a crime. People are still flying Trump banners and wearing MAGA caps in the rural county in which I live. I think it foolish, but people do plenty of stupid things, like smoking, getting drunk, failing to pay bills... Quote:So the next question is: Why did the Democrats leak the story about There is plenty of evidence. Many participants had selfies of themselves at the event and transmitted them to friends. Some may have sent the selfies to their kids who were with the other spouse who has been subjected to domestic violence or has been getting child support less regularly than is mandated by a court decision. "Hey, Mommy! Daddy went to the Capitol in Washington and sent these pictures"... and she is stuck in some dump like Portsmouth, Ohio where she struggles to meet the bills. Hello, FBI! One fellow, Olympic champion Klete Keller, wore his Olympic jacket into the Capitol... he was easy to identify. The Capitol Putsch is resoundingly unpopular in America. There will be people who claim after being misidentified that they were in Pittsburgh that day... and perhaps they were... to get on a plane to Baltimore or Washington. They may have rented a car, and rental cars have GPS on them. I expect rental-car companies to buckle about the movements of people who rented their vehicles when they get a court order to discuss the matter. It's much like financial records. People have ratted on participants. People have turned themselves in. Advice to anyone being grilled on participation in the event: DO NOT LIE. The FBI does not use the brutal methods that one associates with the Gestapo, KGB, or Mukhabarat. It doesn't need to beat an abject confession out of someone. Innocent people have nothing to lie about. Offenders have plenty to lie about. The FBI finds the liar and thus the offender. Quote:The January 6 show had a predecessor -- a 2020 hoax to accuse a group Yup -- infiltrate (someone gets cold feet and talks to the FBI when so serious a crime as kidnapping or murder is possible) and pose as potential accomplices. Those who get cold feet become FBI assets and remain insiders, and the plot unravels just before something can go seriously wrong. Very often one of the participants is tricked into an illicit transaction involving a firearm or explosives. Quote:So Tucker Carlson believes that the "scant evidence" leak was used to There was no kidnapping of Governor Whitmer; the plot was thwarted. There is thus no hoax. Law enforcement did what it was supposed to do. This said, I have seen some of the reporting, and the participants seem like a bunch of real losers. Quote:-- Tucker Carlson sees coverup plot behind announcement FBI found [/quote] Tucker Carlson is not a credible source, and "The American Thinker"... well... Quote:QUESTIONABLE SOURCE https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-thinker/ It's just a blog. Blogs are not sources in their own right. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - David Horn - 08-24-2021 (08-23-2021, 02:07 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 23-Aug-2021 World View: The FBI and the Staged Insurrection John -- get help. Seriously. 90% of this is fantasy (I snipped a lot of it, but left enough to make my point). There are several excellent videos of the January 6th invasiion of the Capitol. The one by the Washington Post is short but still excellent. The 40-minute version by the NY Tiemses (taken from all sides of the Capitol and all available interiors) is even better. And btw, most areas of the building are alwasy closed to the puiblic for obviousl reasons. And your argument that the Democrats are destoying the public and getting them hooked on drugs is really a push. Blame the Sacklers for that one. Oh yeah, they're Republicans, fwiw. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - Eric the Green - 08-24-2021 (08-23-2021, 07:17 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 23-Aug-2021 World View: Insurrection by TV watching It must be fun to live in your own disconnected reality. The proper criminals in this coup attempt/invasion are being rounded up just fine. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - pbrower2a - 08-24-2021 (08-24-2021, 10:36 AM)David Horn Wrote:(08-23-2021, 02:07 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 23-Aug-2021 World View: The FBI and the Staged Insurrection Occam's razor typically shreds conspiracy stories. The Capitol Building was closed to the general public, and news media were there to record a planned formality that is usually anticlimax. The news story that everyone reasonably expected to appear on the network evening news channels was that a gavel would pound a wooden block, silence would begin, and someone would read the results. We all knew what those would be. Much of the news footage will not make it to broadcast. Much has already ended up in the custody of police and prosecutors. Some participanmts were foolish to implicate themselves by showing themselves at the scene. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - pbrower2a - 08-25-2021 Well, well, well. The first domino falls in the Michigan plot. It has taken nearly a year, and one of the participants got off lightly in what could have been a life sentence had the plot been initiated and even a federal death sentence had it resulted in the murder of the Governor of Michigan. 75 months (six years and three months) followed by three years of probation looks lenient for what he did. The first to rat on other conspirators usually gets by far the lightest sentence. Posted here as well in some other threads because Mr. X trivialized the Michigan plot with an absurd denial. The legal process can unfold with amazing... sloth. One pleads guilty to a felony to avoid even harder time, perhaps in return for lesser time in prison than others involved. Quote:A Michigan man who admitted taking part in an extremist group's plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in retaliation for Covid restrictions was sentenced Wednesday to over six years in prison. Source: NBC News. He has had ten months in which to reflect. At least he is young enough that he can make something out of himself. My suggestion to him: read... and read... and read. Contrition is a healthy thing. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 08-25-2021 ** 25-Aug-2021 World View: Getting help (08-24-2021, 10:36 AM)David Horn Wrote: > John -- get help. Seriously. 90% of this is fantasy (I snipped a As you say, parts of the Capitol are open to the public, and walking through the Capitol is not a crime that should put you in jail for months -- unless, of course, you're a Trump supporter. Occam's Razor tells you that a trespasser is simply trespassing, not insurrecting. Well, I got help. I doubled my meds. Then I doubled them again. I called a psychologist. Then I called a psychiatrist. Then I called a neurologist. Then I called another psychiatrist. Then I reviewed all the news reports. I reviewed videos. I reviewed all the analyses. And the answer came out the same. The videos and reports all showed individual peaceful protesters. There was no "insurrection" on January 6. That's your fantasy. You're the one with the fantasy. It was a hoax staged by the Democrats with the use of FBI infiltration, following the staged kidnapping hoax of Gov Whitmer, also using FBI infiltration. For anyone else reading this, I wrote a well-researched and well-sourced in the article I posted a couple of days ago. *** 23-Aug-2021 World View: The FBI and the Staged Insurrection http://generational-theory.com/forum/thread-51-post-78443.html#pid78443 http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=63603#p63603 As for Brower, Horn and Meece, you people are like Adam Schiff. You remember that jackass Adam Schiff, don't you? He lies every day. Remember his ridiculous laughable lies during the Ukraine impeachment hoax? Just like you three. You don't give a shit what you say. You're just Democrat party trolls. You say what the Democrats tell you to say. The Democrats say what Nancy Pelosi tells them to say. Nancy Pelosi says what "The Squad" tells her today, and the girls in "The Squad" hate America and undoubtedly are bragging to the people back home how they sabotaging the country in policy after policy, which makes them evil and you equally evil for supporting them. Every single policy of the Democrats has the purpose of destroying the country. So you say that talking about the massive inflow of drugs across the southern border is "really a push"? You three guys are total idiots. -- Fentanyl seizures at U.S. southern border rise dramatically https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/fentanyl-seizures-u-s-southern-border-rise-dramatically-n1272676 (NBC News, 29-Jun-2021) And so, Brower, Horn and Meece, you three are total idiots, in addition to being pathetic and evil. But, let's face it, you fit in well with your president. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 08-25-2021 ** 25-Aug-2021 World View: Whitmer kidnapping hoax (08-25-2021, 09:08 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: > Well, well, well. The first domino falls in the Michigan plot. It I guess this is really hard for you to understand. In both the Whitmer kidnapping hoax and the insurrection hoax, FBI informants were used to entrap the participants, which is illegal. Stalin wouldn't hesitate to put someone in jail if it was revealed that the KGB had committed entrapment. However, there was a big difference between the two cases. When the Whitmer kidnapping hoax was prosecuted, the role of the FBI was revealed, which was embarrassing to the FBI and prosecution, though it isn't preventing them from sending the poor slob to jail for the crime of being a Trump supporter. But in the insurrection hoax, the Justice Dept. is dropping the charges, saying that there's "scant evidence." Why did they leak the "scant evidence" claim? So that the case won't be prosecuted and the FBI won't be embarrassed again by having their role revealed, as they were in the Whitmer case. I told you that last time. I know that it requires a higher reading comprehension level than you have, but try reading what I've written a few times so that it will sink in. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - pbrower2a - 08-26-2021 (08-25-2021, 09:24 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 25-Aug-2021 World View: Getting help It depends upon what is going on in the Capitol. If the vote is on naming a post office, then maybe we get to see it. If it is the CIA budget we obviously don't. The term "trespassing" typically involves entering real property without permission. Thus if someone takes a shortcut across my lawn that is technically trespassing. I wouldn't make a stink about a child using my driveway as a shortcut to get to or from a school bus. On the other hand if someone crosses my property to do some damage, like to commit vandalism, I would certainly press charges for trespassing. With buildings (houses, barns, sheds, chicken coops, commercial establishments, houses of faith), rail cars, motor vehicles, boats, or aircraft entry with the intention of committing a crime is burglary. An open door to a business is something that we all understand. This said, if one stays after the business is closed or enters store rooms generally closed to the public one is committing burglary. The people who entered the Capitol building without obvious consent were technically burglars. I have visited the Capitol three times: in 1967 (with my parents), and twice in the 1970's (on the way to a band festival). The Capitol is awesome. It is a place of reverence for what has gone on there. Law defines the United States as a political order, and short of life-saving in medicine or military service in defense of my country I can imagine no more important responsibility in work than to make the law, vote on the law, or assist in its design. Emancipation Proclamation, establishment of National Parks,. declarations of war, ratification of treaties, the GI Bill, enacting the Interstate Highway program, the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, the Americans with Disabilities Act... it was all done there. Not in some cavern about which nobody knows. Ratifying the results of the Electoral College is a standard ceremony that rarely draws attention of the media, but this time people in the Capitol made a mockery by trying to undo the results of an election that went as they didn't like. Most of us experience that half the time or so. Some never get it right because they vote for Parties or Candidates who have no meaningful chance. I didn't see any BLACK LIVES MATTER banners. I saw no rainbow (LGBT) flags. I saw nobody with an image of Che Guevara, Vladimir Lenin, Mao Zedong, or other commies. I did see Trump banners which do not belong in the Capitol. I did see some Confederate flags. I heard someone shout "HANG MIKE PENCE!", which would be extremely disgusting if it came from my side. Quote:Well, I got help. I doubled my meds. Then I doubled them again. I You could not have done that; I think you are too smart. To put it as delicately as I can, the physician that you should have seen is a proctologist. Quote:And the answer came out the same. The videos and reports all showed Peaceful protesters? Peaceful protesters are the sorts who take a camera-wielding cell phone with them, perhaps expecting to document police brutality and instead end up documenting riotous acts. Should I get video of someone torching a police car, then that video goes to law enforcement or prosecution. Quote:As for Brower, Horn and Meece, you people are like Adam Schiff. You If you consider a tiger's tail a leg, then how many legs does the usual tiger have? Four. No matter what you say, a tail is not a leg. I have had arguments with people who called the Holocaust the "Holohoax". So I explain all the solid evidence from eyewitness testimony from perpetrators, survivors, bystanders, and liberators. I show that Jewish populations once large virtually disappeared. People might have appeared in Censuses as Jews or might have been identified in some way that suggests that they were Jewish (as in having Yiddish as one's first language in Poland or Ladino -- an archaic Spanish close to the original language in which Cervantes used in writing Don Quixote) in Greek. The Dutch re-opened synagogues to such Jews as would return for worship. About 90% of Dutch Jews were exterminated. Before the war the Netherlands was a good place in which to be a Jew. It would be again. I mentioned evidence put into criminal trials of perpetrators -- orders, requisitions, personnel records, payrolls, accounting ledgers, and death lists. One of the nastiest of the Nazis, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, denied that the initials on damning evidence were his. He did not deny the reality of the documents calling for murders. So what do I get for denouncing the Holocaust deniers? I get called a "dirty Jew" who "sees gentiles as goyim" Heck, I am likely descended from some families, parts of which went to the New World and parts of which stayed in Germany around 1750... and the descendants of some of those who stayed probably were major Nazi war criminals. My mother's maiden name is the same as some Hungarian general of German origin (he Magyarized his name at some point) who was convicted by Yugoslavia for major war crimes. yes, he was guilty. I have ancestors named Hess (as in Rudolf) and Funk (as in Walter, the President of the Reichsbank who fenced the loot such as wedding rings, gold teeth, gold eyeglass frames, cash and currency, and other treasures) from murdered Jews. Sure, I hate Nazis. It is impossible to be a good person these days and not hate Nazis. I told that Nazi sympathizer that if I had to choose between being a Jew and a Nazi I would choose Judaism because as a Jew I would have fewer cultural or moral compromises to make. So you say that talking about the massive inflow of drugs across the southern border is "really a push"? You three guys are total idiots. Quote:-- Fentanyl seizures at U.S. southern border rise dramatically FCUK fentanyl. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - pbrower2a - 08-26-2021 (08-25-2021, 09:46 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 25-Aug-2021 World View: Whitmer kidnapping hoax RE: Generational Dynamics World View - David Horn - 08-26-2021 (08-25-2021, 09:24 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 25-Aug-2021 World View: Getting help The extortion of the Ukrainian President was witnessed by many and beyond dispute. Where, exactly, is the hoax? more from John Wrote:So you say that talking about the massive inflow of drugs across the southern border is "really a push"? You three guys are total idiots. H-m-m-m. Yes, the Chinese (primarily though there are others) are creating cheap fentanyl analogues and the Mexican cartels are bring them in. You do understand that a pound of fentanyl is roughly the equivalent of 1,000 to 10,000 pounds of morphine. It's easy to smuggle. even more from John Wrote:And so, Brower, Horn and Meece, you three are total idiots, in addition to being pathetic and evil. But, let's face it, you fit in well with your president. At least we're fact based, unlike yourself. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 08-26-2021 ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: The Gathering Storm in Afghanistan President Joe Biden seems more confused and lost every day. VP Kamala Harris has been cackling in Vietnam, saying platitudes. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has been providing numbers and narratives to reassure the public, but he looks like a deer caught in the headlights. Jen Psaki is the Baghdad Bob of the Biden administration. She'll say any idiotic thing. According to polls, 76% of the public say that the evacuation has been going badly or very badly. Biden's approval rating has plummeted quickly, to 41%. It's obvious that Biden is annoyed. He doesn't want to have to deal with this problem. It's too complicated for him to understand. He's really furious that the mainstream media aren't simply covering for him. He's tried several times to go on vacation during this crisis, but was forced by events to stay in the White House. He just wants to return to the safety of his bunker in Delaware. The Democrats' strategy is to hope that a month or two from now, Afghanistan and the Americans left behind, tortured, raped or killed by the Taliban or by ISIS-K will be forgotten by the American public. However, it's not that simple. I and probably others have the feeling of a "Gathering Storm," to use Churchill's phrase. There are tens of thousands people to be evacuated -- Americans, people with special immigrant visa (SIV), Afghans who helped Americans, including translators, spotters, drivers, or did any number of other tasks that made the jobs of our soldiers possible, girl-women activists. Biden has committed to withdraw all of these people by August 31, but nobody believes that's possible. This morning there were at least two explosions just outside the Kabul airport. At this writing, the number of casualties has not been reported. Update: At least 13 people have been killed. It's believed that the explosions were the responsibility with ISIS-K, which wants to sabotage the evacuation effort, and embarrass both the Americans and the Taliban, who have been cooperating. For the time being, the airlift out of Kabul airport has been halted. A Pentagon briefing is expected soon. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 08-26-2021 ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: Ashli Babbitt's killer comes forward (08-26-2021, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: > The extortion of the Ukrainian President was witnessed by many and I've explained all this to you before, but I know you suffer from memory lapses, so I'll try again. Unlike you, I actually watched the Ukraine hearings. Adam Schiff who lied on a daily basis, made up a phony transcript of a phone call between Trump and Ukraine's president. Trump was then able to release the actual transcript, making Schiff look like a piece of garbage, but that never stopped him. During the Ukraine hearings, every witness was forced to recant his testimony under cross examination by the Republicans. But the mainstream media lied about that every day, reporting "explosive testimony." The star witness, Ambassador Gordon Sondland originally said that Schiff was wrong, but Oregon Democratic Rep. Earl Blumenauer incited violence against Sondland's family and business, and he was forced to change his testimony. However, the truth came out under Republican cross-examination. Jonathan Turley's family was also threatened with violence by Democrats when he testified that the impeachment couldn't be justified. Turley was proved right, when the whole case collapsed in the Senate. So the whole Ukraine thing was a lie and a hoax. Please make a note of the above, so I don't have to explain it to you again. (08-26-2021, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: > H-m-m-m. Yes, the Chinese (primarily though there are others) are So we agree. (08-26-2021, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: > At least we're fact based, unlike yourself. You're full of crap. You look at youtube videos and declare a peaceful protest to be an "insurrection". You're not stating facts. You're a sock puppet for Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff. By the way, here's an amusing fact. I don't know much about this, but apparently there are thousands of hours of video taken during the so-called "insurrection" in the possession of the FBI that they're refusing to release. It's believed that this video shows that the FBI is guilty, especially now that there is "scant evidence" of an insurrection by peaceful Trump supporters. One more amusing fact. We know that Lt. Michael Leroy Byrd, a black officer of the Capitol police, on the staff of Nancy Pelosi, is the man who murdered Ashli Babbitt, the young girl who was killed for being a Trump supporter, as she climbed through a broken window. However, Byrd's name has never been officially released. So now Byrd himself has come forward, and is going to be interviewed on MSNBC tomorrow. Presumably he'll paint himself as the hero that saved democracy from a dangerous woman who supports Trump. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 08-26-2021 ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: Kabul airport bombing Four US marines were killed, and three were wounded in the bombing at the Kabul airport. At least 30 people are confirmed dead, including women and children. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - David Horn - 08-26-2021 (08-26-2021, 12:12 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: Kabul airport bombing Truly sad but fully predictable. What's less predictable is how we will respond ... or the Taliban for that matter. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - David Horn - 08-26-2021 (08-26-2021, 11:21 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: Ashli Babbitt's killer comes forward Did we watch the same hearings? I assume you used the Fox feed. I used the NBC feed. Mine had no testimony breaks in it, and nothing I heard squares with what you just wrote. Nothing. even more from John Wrote:David Horn Wrote:> At least we're fact based, unlike yourself. I saw cops being beaten, forced entry to the Capitol while it was in session, and your "peaceful tourists" on the floor of the House and Senate and elsewhere "peacful tourists" are specifically barred from being. That's all undeniable. I assume the video the FBI has is being kept as evidence with a proper chain of custody. So no, you don't get to see it until the trials are over ... except for what will be presented as evidence. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 08-26-2021 ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: Ukraine quid pro quo shoshin Wrote:> John, you have an.odd definition of "recant." When the Republican My eyes and ears saw and heard the entire hearing, and my eyes and ears were not lying, and have never lied. What you've written above is total nonsense, so it's you that have no idea what was going on. In fact, I interpret your statement about "knew EXACTLY" as an admission that you're purposely lying about what happened. Or maybe your eyes and ears are the liars. Or maybe it's just your mouth. This is typical of left-wing Democrats. Here's what I posted on December 3, 2019: Quote:> "I've been saying for years that a new American Civil It came out in news reports later that the violence against Sondland was incited by Oregon Democrat Rep. Earl Blumenauer. Perhaps he was encouraged by the Democrat party witch, Maxine Waters, who has repeatedly incited violence against Republicans. Later, Jonathan Turley's family was also threatened with violence by Democrats when he testified that the impeachment couldn't be justified. So the whole Ukraine impeachment circus was a lie and a hoax. It joins other events that turned out to be hoaxes -- the Gov Whitmer kidnapping hoax and the insurrection hoax. Both of those hoaxes were staged with the help of FBI agents who infiltrated and entrapped the Trump supporters by encouraging them or even planning with them. So those are three hoaxes staged under the direction of Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff. That makes a grand slam. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - pbrower2a - 08-27-2021 (08-26-2021, 11:21 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: Ashli Babbitt's killer comes forward Your assumption is that Donald Trump is the definitive truth because he is Donald Trump. Trump is an inveterate, pathological, self-serving liar. He is in the league of people who say things such as "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?". No. Truth is a personal choice, and it is not an attribute of a person. It is at most a habit, one to be cultivated. If one uses Donald Trump as the definition of truth, then just about everyone is a liar. Using Donald Trump as the definitive truth is like using a lunatic as a definition of sanity. Do you know one of the best tests of insanity? The insane consider themselves normal and normal people insane! "Actual transcript"... huh? It could be a forgery, including a redaction that changes the meaning. Quote:During the Ukraine hearings, every witness was forced to recant his Not what I recall. Quote:The star witness, Ambassador Gordon Sondland originally said that Sondland was basically a political appointee, and he knew little about diplomacy except as on-the-job training. His testimony was ambiguous. He was in the thankless position of having to serve two masters (the professional diplomatic corps and Donald Trump). Maybe if Trump didn't micromanage stuff in which he was incompetent and weren't so personally corrupt we would have had no first impeachment. Blackmailing a foreign leader to do dirty work in American partisan politics is simply inexcusable. Trump had to be impeached even if such would be awkward for Democrats. Quote:Jonathan Turley's family was also threatened with violence by As often appears in Wikipedia, [[citation needed]]. That the impeachment vote went almost completely along partisan lines demonstrates something other than vindication of President Trump. Quote:(08-26-2021, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: > H-m-m-m. Yes, the Chinese (primarily though there are others) are Am I to trust you, Mr. X, or "my lying eyes"? I have been at or by peaceful demonstrations, and I know what they look like. The Capitol Putsch looks like a peaceful demonstration about as much as a cat overpowering a mouse looks like an expression of kindness toward the mouse. Quote:By the way, here's an amusing fact. I don't know much about this, but Embargoed for use by federal prosecutors in criminal prosedcutions. Quote:One more amusing fact. We know that Lt. Michael Leroy Byrd, a black Ashli Babbitt is not the "innocent young girl" as you depict her. She was 39, so she was old enough to have teen-age children, and she was using military techniques to breach a defended perimeter. Use military techniques in the violation of the law and you are anything but innocent. She transmitted video that suggested that she knew what she was doing all along. Quote:So now Byrd himself has come forward, and is going to be interviewed You leave out some critical details. Multitudes still support Donald Trump without doing crime to back their support. People simply milling around in the capitol building, I predict, will get slap-on-the-wrist sentences. They will get probation and fines, perhaps community service, and end up on a no-fly list and lose their passports. To be sure, ending up on a no-fly list practically ensures the end of some careers such as traveling salesmen and auditors. Bye-bye, CPA career. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - Eric the Green - 08-27-2021 Thank goodness for my hero, Adam Schiff, standing up for democracy and against the American tyrant Trump. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - John J. Xenakis - 08-27-2021 ** 27-Aug-2021 World View: Enabling and trolling for Adam Schiff (08-27-2021, 04:38 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: > Thank goodness for my hero, Adam Schiff, standing up for democracy Schiff is lucky to have you, and you will be useful to him as time goes by. As I've written in the past, the worst people in the world are the leaders that order their armies to commit genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, atrocities, and crimes against humanity -- people like Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe, Josef Stalin, Xi Jinping, and Bashar al-Assad. These people were very popular, and won elections. They had to be popular in order to get away with their horrific crimes. The Democrats are not yet committing full-scale genocide, but they've been conducting full-scale massacres of blacks in the last century through the KKK and this century through street crime. Adam Schiff is becoming a leader in making those massacres possible, as well as other crimes. Right behind them, the second-worst people, are people like you, the people who are supporting the criminals -- the enablers, the excusers, the deniers, the collaborators, the acolytes and the trolls -- the people who defend the war criminals and make the actions of Hitler, Mao, Stalin and al-Assad possible. These are the people that make genocide and war crimes possible, and they are as much to blame as the war criminals themselves. The Democrat regime is becoming increasingly Fascist and Stalinist. Adam Schiff will be looking for opportunities to attain leadership positions in this growing Fascist organization, and he'll call on people like you to help him. I assume that you've already signed up, but if you haven't yet, you should do so. RE: Generational Dynamics World View - pbrower2a - 08-27-2021 What a collection of delusional verbiage! |