(08-27-2021, 07:04 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > What a collection of delusional verbiage!

(08-29-2021, 10:00 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 29-Aug-2021 World View: The beginning of the 'Regeneracy'

Listening to "ABC News Thisweek" this Sunday morning, one might almost think that he had accidentally tuned into Fox News.  They were painting the situation in Afghanistan in the most horrific terms (in my opinion, correctly), and they were blaming it all on the ridiculous decisions and behavior of Biden...

(08-29-2021, 10:00 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 29-Aug-2021 World View: The beginning of the 'Regeneracy'

ABC News is part of the mainstream media, has always provided cover
for President Biden no matter how stupid and destructive the decisions
of his administration and the Democrats, including opening the border,
opening the prisons, defunding the police, allowing the importation of
fentanyl, and allowing the mass street slaughter of blacks to
continue.  No matter how destructive and damaging the policy, ABC News
and the mainstream media were always there to ridicule anyone who
criticized the Democrats.  Only Fox News ever provided balanced
coverage, and their anchors were regularly described as racist or
white supremacist, and their families were often threatened with
violence by mobs of antifa-blm-linked woke crowds.

Quote:Listening to "ABC News Thisweek" this Sunday morning, one might almost
think that he had accidentally tuned into Fox News.  They were
painting the situation in Afghanistan in the most horrific terms (in
my opinion, correctly), and they were blaming it all on the ridiculous
decisions and behavior of Biden.

Quote:(Incidentally, a fascinating part of the show was the interview with
the former army ranger Jariko Denman.  He was apparently one of the
people I described in my previous posting on "Pineapple Express," and
he described how he and the others were operating.)

Quote:Many times in the past, I've described the concept of "Regeneracy" in
generational theory.  This is one or more events that cause political
differences to be put aside, and cause the population to be unified
behind the leader.  In World War II, it was the Pearl Harbor bombing
and the Bataan Death March.

The Afghanistan catastrophe, combined with memories of 9/11/2001, and
the size of last Thursday's ISIS-K attack, killing over a dozen
American soldiers, can be considered the first major event of the
current Regeneracy.  It's forcing the woke garbage to be put aside,
and uniting Republicans, Democrats and independents.

Quote:However, it's not a Regeneracy in the same way as Pearl Harbor.  FDR
knew how to react, and even today his words "A day that will live in
infamy" still ring true.

Quote:Contrast that with Biden's pathetic robotic performance, baring his
teeth, saying "we will find you, we will make you pay," and hanging
his head in shame.  (Former President Trump posted a video, broadcast
on Fox but ignored by the mainstream media, that was much more
memorable and to the point.)

Quote:So while the Pearl Harbor bombing united the country behind FDR, the
Afghanistan catastrophe is uniting the country AGAINST Biden and the
Democrats.

Quote:The Democrats are hoping that the whole catastrophe will pass quickly
from public memory, and they can go back to one destructive policy
after another.  If the opposite happens -- that the situation
continues to worsen -- then Biden's presidency will be untenable.  The
next two in line - Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi -- are just as
incompetent as Biden.

Quote:This "Regeneracy Event" is going to have political consequences.  It
will be necessary to find a way, within the Constitution, to find a
way to replace Biden with someone competent.

(08-29-2021, 09:22 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: I had thought that Biden was getting to be just too old for public office.  I couldn't see him as being in the White House for two terms... one term at most.

If it is determined that Biden has become senile, it is conceivable that he might linger, with the country limping along for the next few years.

If that should be the case, I would expect the country's  division to continue nevertheless.

(08-29-2021, 09:55 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: Eric (the Green) has commented that the USA is primed for an internal, divisive 4T.  Unforetunately, other parts of the world-such as east Asia-seem primed for an external 4T.  If such spill over, the USA will be in a poor position to handle it.

• Korea: Draw, with an ongoing committment to this day
  
• Iran 1.0: The over throw of Mossedegh was a Pyrhic victory th at lead to Iran 2.0
  
• Vietnam: Loss, though we're on better terms now than we were when we were there in force.
  
• Iran 2.0: Instead of a socialist secular governemnt, Iran got the mullahs
  
• Meddling in South America: Nothing of value.  Allende -> Pinochet was an obvious mistake
  
• Meddling in Central America: The entire area has never been less stable.  Add MS-13 to this toxic sundae
  
• Afghanisan 1.0:  Charlie Wilson's war. Lead directly to the Taliban and indirectly to al Qaeda
  
• Iraq 1.0: In and out -- a good model we've been unable to follow since
  
• Afghanisan 2.0: We had a shot at repeating Iraq 1.0 and blew it 
  
• Iraq 2.0: Instead of Saddam. we now have an Iranian client state.
  

(08-29-2021, 02:24 PM)David Horn Wrote: > You just wrote it yourself: "one might almost think that he had
> accidentally tuned into Fox News." In other words, Fox is, by your
> own admition, a propaganda organ that consistently hypes GOP
> talking points -- often creating them from whole cloth when the
> need arises. In short, they are not a news organization. They
> have more in common with the work of Leni Riefenstahl than Edward
> R Murrow.

(08-30-2021, 08:51 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 30-Aug-2021 World View: Apology

(08-29-2021, 02:24 PM)David Horn Wrote: You just wrote it yourself: "one might almost think that he had accidentally tuned into Fox News." In other words, Fox is, by your own admition, a propaganda organ that consistently hypes GOP talking points -- often creating them from whole cloth when the need arises.  In short, they are not a news organization. They have more in common with the work of Leni Riefenstahl than Edward R Murrow.

I owe you an apology.  I made a big mistake.  A few days ago, I said that I thought that you were capable of actual thought, and I was completely wrong about that.  I apologize for the misjudgment.

In this case, you quote one sentence of mine, but you either didn't read or were incapable of comprehending the previous paragraph in the same post.  I was making the point that the mainstream media blindly and mindlessly covers for Biden, and never criticizes Biden's policiies, no matter how stupid and destructive they are.  Only Fox News provides balanced and accurate coverage, either supporting or criticizing Biden, depending on the situation.

(08-30-2021, 09:25 AM)David Horn Wrote: > Fox never supports the left, center or even the center right.
> It's full-right full-time. Nothing is balanced ... ever! Note
> how effectivel;y they've managed to kill many of their own
> supporters by shilling for nonsense COVID policies and against
> vaccines. In foreign affaris, they have no philosophy, or they
> wouldn't have switched from hard neocon in the pre-Trump days to
> ... I don't even know anymore. They've even played XOXO with the
> Taliban, so God only knows what they believe -- probably nothing
> based on the evidence.

(08-30-2021, 09:25 AM)David Horn Wrote: > If your "news" is sourced on the hard-right media, no wonder you
> have a twisted idea of what's true.

(08-27-2021, 07:04 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > What a collection of delusional verbiage!

(08-27-2021, 07:48 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: > ** 27-Aug-2021 World View: Trollery

> Lol! So, are you also an Adam Schiff troll, or are you someone
> else's troll?

(08-30-2021, 01:15 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 30-Aug-2021 World View: Fox News

(08-30-2021, 09:25 AM)David Horn Wrote: Fox never supports the left, center or even the center right.  It's full-right full-time.  Nothing is balanced ... ever!  Note how effectivel;y they've managed to kill many of their own supporters by shilling for nonsense COVID policies and against vaccines. In foreign affaris, they have no philosophy, or they wouldn't have switched from hard neocon in the pre-Trump days to ... I don't even know anymore.  They've even played XOXO with the Taliban, so God only knows what they believe -- probably nothing based on the evidence.

That's simply not true, though you may think so if all you know about are Tucker and Hannity.

John Wrote:But the 6 pm ET "Fox Report" is totally balanced, or at most center-right.  Bret Baier's reporting is almost totally non-partisan, and the panels always contain a Democrat Party strategist who is given plenty of time to present the Democrat Party position.

However, even the analysts aren't monolithic.  For example, some of them hate Trump.  The Covid policies are a good example, because it shows how stupid the Democrats are.  Yes, there are a variety of opinions expressed on Fox about Covid policies, mostly opposing forced masking or lockdowns.  But remember that 18 months ago Trump was talking about a Covid lab leak, and the Democrat idiots were calling that a "conspiracy theory."  Then a few months ago, the Democrats were humiliated by having to admit that a lab leak was possible.  I recall ABC's Jonathan Karl saying, "Just because Trump said something doesn't mean it wasn't true."  But there are lots of things like that, where the Democrats called them conspiracy theories, and had to make humiliating retreats.

John Wrote:But you're obviously missing the whole point.  You listen to the sewer channels like CNN, where you only get the news approved the Democrat Party censors, and that's wrong most of the time.  Fox News has people that state lots of different opinions.  Occasionally, some of them
turn out to be wrong, but most of them turn out to be right.  That's a GOOD thing.  That's why the Fox slogan is: "We report, you decide."  The CNN slogan is: "We report, and we decide for you."  CNN is perfect for someone incapable of actual thought.

John Wrote:You should watch Fox's 6 PM ET newscast.  You may discover you like it much better than whatever garbage you currently listen to.

John Wrote:By the way, I'm curious to know what you mean by, "They've even played XOXO with the Taliban."  I don't know what that means, and I didn't even know that you watched Fox News.

John Wrote:

David Horn Wrote:If your "news" is sourced on the hard-right media, no wonder you have a twisted idea of what's true.

Once again, simply not true.  I also get my news from MSNBC, the BBC, al-Jazeera, C-Span, and other broadcast sources, as well as dozens of online sources.  In the last few days, I've watched a lot of MSNBC's coverage of Afghanistan.  All in all, I believe that I am better informed than you or 99.9% of the rest of the world.  I have to be, in view of the huge number of people like yourself that constantly attack me.

(08-30-2021, 01:16 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 30-Aug-2021 World View: Adam Schiff and the mass slaughter of blacks

(08-27-2021, 07:04 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: >   What a collection of delusional verbiage!

(08-27-2021, 07:48 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: >   ** 27-Aug-2021 World View: Trollery

>   Lol!  So, are you also an Adam Schiff troll, or are you someone
>   else's troll?

I'd like to expand on my previous answer.

Every policy, no matter how good or bad, has unintended consequences.
In fact, the size of the unintended consequences is one measure of how
bad a policy is.  And a measure of how good or bad the policymakers
are is to see how well they take action to reverse the unintended
consequences.

Quote:But sometimes the policymakers fail to take any actions to reverse the
unintended consequences.  Even worse, someimes instead of fixing them,
the policymakers adopt new policies that reinforce or worsen the
unintended consequences.  Once the "unintended consequences" are not
fixed, but go on and worsen for years, then it becomes appropriate to
call them "intended consequences," especially when the policymakers
have obvious motives for wanting the intended consequences.

Quote:For decades, the Democrats have adopted policies to destroy black
families, by forcing black mothers to throw their children's fathers
out of the house and into the street and out of the community in order
to collect welfare.  For decades, the Democrats have manipulated
welfare policy to destroy black families as much as possible, and
today 75% of black children are born without fathers.  The result is
that these children without the moral and experiential guidance of
their fathers, causing many of them to enter the criminal justice
system.  Furthermore, teen boys know that, thanks to the Democrat's
welfare policies, they have no hope of having a normal family life,
because they know that if they marry and have children, their wives
will throw them out of the house as soon as they're short of money.

Quote:The result is that these rudderless young black males with no fathers
and with no hope of a family life, thanks to Democrats' policies, are
out on the streets killing each other in record numbers in cities
governed by Democrats.  Democrats could fix these problems (by
following the example of Rudy Guliani's tenure in NYC, for example),
but they refuse to do so, indicating that mass slaughter of blacks on
the streets is an "intended consequence" of Democrats' policies.

Quote:The Democrats' motive is perfectly obvious.  Last century, Democrats
were conducting mass slaughter of blacks through the KKK.  This
century, the Democrats are conducting mass slaughter of blacks through
policies.  It's exactly the same objective through different means.

Quote:So there are two "intended consequences" of Democrats' policies:
destruction of the black family, and mass slaughter of blacks in the
streets of cities governed by Democrats.  After decades of failing to
fix these outcomes, and in fact allowing them to worsen, there is no
doubt that mass slaughter of blacks in the streets is an intended
consequence of Democrat policies.  Same as last century, but by
different means.

Quote:Last century, the direct activities of the KKK were pretty much ended
by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Quote:The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was bitterly opposed by the Democrats,
especially those in the south.  The Democrats staged a 75-day
filibuster, among the longest in American history. On one occasion,
Senator Robert Byrd spoke for over 14 consecutive hours.

Quote:This bitter opposition by Byrd is significant because Byrd had been a
Grand Wizard in the KKK, and Byrd was the mentor of Joe Biden.  This
provides a solid connection between the KKK of the last century and
the Democrats of today.

Quote:After their bitter defeat, the Democrats began aggressively pushing
welfare policies that destroyed the black family.

Quote:I have a personal memory of this from the 1970s.  Every day I would
read in the Boston Globe of how the welfare policies worked.  Vans
were sent into black neighborhoods for a period of many months.  Any
woman simply had to walk out of her home and walk into the van in
front of her home to sign up for welfare on the spot, provided that
she said that her children weren't being supported by their father.
So the government was paying mothers to disavow their children's
fathers, with no limitations.  That was the first step in destroying
the black family.

The policy got much worse, as the welfare policy evolved to crack down
on mothers who were receiving welfare, but still had the father living
with them.  They were required to throw the fathers out of the house,
or lose their welfare.

Then there was a crackdown on fathers who still were around their
families.  I recall stories of mothers losing welfare because dad was
still in the neighborhood.  The message was clear: get rid of dad
completely.

Next, the authorities completely closed the noose around fathers.  The
government implemented large data processing systems to track down
fathers, mostly black fathers, who could be found.  The message to
women was clear: Have sex with several men, so that the father can't
be identified, if you want to continue received welfare payments; make
sure you don't hang around with the father(s) of your children or,
better yet, make sure you don't even know who the father is.

It's incredible how successful the Democrats have been.  They turned
their bitter defeat in 1964 into feel-good policies that completely
destroy black families, and continue the mass slaughter of blacks into
the 21st century.

In the 1960s, Patrick Moynihan warned that these would be unintended
consequences of Democrat policies.  But since the policies have gone
on for decades, and have worsened, it's clear that they're now
"intended consequences."  This is what the Democrats want.

(08-30-2021, 04:48 PM)David Horn Wrote: > John Wrote: You should watch Fox's 6 PM ET newscast. You may
> discover you like it much better than whatever garbage you
> currently listen to.

> Unlikely. That's dinner time, and I don't want to toss cookies in
> the middle of a meal.

(08-30-2021, 04:48 PM)David Horn Wrote: > John Wrote: By the way, I'm curious to know what you mean by,
> "They've even played XOXO with the Taliban." I don't know what
> that means, and I didn't even know that you watched Fox News.

> Hugs and kisses. For some reason, the Taliban is now semi-revered
> by the hard right. Go figure.

(08-30-2021, 08:16 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 30-Aug-2021 World View: Contempt for the Taliban

(08-30-2021, 04:48 PM)David Horn Wrote: >   John Wrote: You should watch Fox's 6 PM ET newscast.  You may
>   discover you like it much better than whatever garbage you
>   currently listen to.

>   Unlikely.  That's dinner time, and I don't want to toss cookies in
>   the middle of a meal.

That reminds me of that old Jack Nicholson movie line, "You can't
handle the truth!"

(08-30-2021, 04:48 PM)David Horn Wrote: >   John Wrote: By the way, I'm curious to know what you mean by,
>   "They've even played XOXO with the Taliban." I don't know what
>   that means, and I didn't even know that you watched Fox News.

>   Hugs and kisses. For some reason, the Taliban is now semi-revered
>   by the hard right. Go figure.

This is one of those really bizarre statements that you make that show
that you're completely out of touch with reality.  All Fox analysts
I've heard -- and also many on MSNBC and the BBC as well -- are
contemptuous of the Taliban and say that the Taliban will start raping
girls as soon as the Americans leave.  They're also contemptuous of
Biden for "cutting and running" and trusting the Taliban, in order to
get a photo op on 9/11.  So the truth is the exact opposite of what
you're saying.

• Biden crying in response to a question at an 8/27 press conference

(08-30-2021, 08:16 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 30-Aug-2021 World View: Contempt for the Taliban

(08-30-2021, 04:48 PM)David Horn Wrote:

John Wrote:You should watch Fox's 6 PM ET newscast.  You may discover you like it much better than whatever garbage you currently listen to.

Unlikely.  That's dinner time, and I don't want to toss cookies in the middle of a meal.

That reminds me of that old Jack Nicholson movie line, "You can't handle the truth!"

John Wrote:

David Wrote:

John Wrote:By the way, I'm curious to know what you mean by, "They've even played XOXO with the Taliban." I don't know what that means, and I didn't even know that you watched Fox News.

Hugs and kisses. For some reason, the Taliban is now semi-revered by the hard right. Go figure.

This is one of those really bizarre statements that you make that show that you're completely out of touch with reality.  All Fox analysts I've heard -- and also many on MSNBC and the BBC as well -- are contemptuous of the Taliban and say that the Taliban will start raping girls as soon as the Americans leave.  They're also contemptuous of Biden for "cutting and running" and trusting the Taliban, in order to get a photo op on 9/11.  So the truth is the exact opposite of what you're saying.