(03-07-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: I don't call them heroes, but Civics. I think they are obedient and conformist rather than brave. Bravery is a genetic trait which is the same in all generations.

GIs were more obedient to their Missionary leaders, while Millennials tend to obey their social media peer society. The later is more insidious, IMO.

(03-06-2019, 11:12 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: After reading how G.I.s compared their Missionary leader Douglas MacArthur to God, and how the same G.I.s later failed to lead their Boomer kids in Vietnam (after they had spoiled them rotten), I really wonder: Are they as heroic as their name?

If they were able to do heroic deeds, it's because they had competent, realistic Nomad leaders who saw through the Missionary bullshit.


Even if the G.I.s were just as brave as the Nomads have been: Without good officers, brave soldiers became "Lions lead by donkeys", as in WW1.

(03-07-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: GIs were more obedient to their Missionary leaders, while Millennials tend to obey their social media peer society. The later is more insidious, IMO.

(03-14-2019, 05:11 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: Naming a generation "Hero" is inherently problematic because hero is an extremely positive word. It's very difficult thing to be against heroes.

(03-23-2019, 08:23 PM)Hintergrund Wrote:

(03-07-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: GIs were more obedient to their Missionary leaders, while Millennials tend to obey their social media peer society. The later is more insidious, IMO.

Well, S&H said that Heroes/Civics enforce good conduct by peer pressure. And they don't understand if other people consider this a bad word.

Their "Prophet" leader isn't in sight yet, although Obama and Bernie might have become (despite not being the right generation).

(03-28-2019, 04:44 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I think most people are essentially NPC morons that freak out over what social media says. Because social media and peer pressure doesn't influence me much, I'm essentially unhinged. When I see 100 people trying to criticize me at the same time, I get overwhelmed and it feels like the world is against me. The reason I'm unhinged is because they expect me to think the way I do because of the group. My autistic mind doesn't work that way. If they can't give me a good enough reason to obey I have no reason to. I'm used to being on the bottom of the social hierarchy. Lack of social status doesn't scare me at all. If I'm faced with a bunch of cowards who just judge me as a group but don't do anything to stop me well I can just do whatever I want and the world has to deal with it. My opinion is no matter what I do or say there's someone going to be offended, cringed out, or weirded out unless I decide to become a slave to pleasing others. It's not worth the effort. I am unapologetically myself and the world has to deal with me. I can do anything I want to do as long as nobody can force me to do it. Unless you're pointing a gun to my head you can't make me do anything I don't wanna do. If you're offended too bad, get used to me being who I am.

(02-07-2019, 09:22 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:

(02-06-2019, 11:14 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: So - what should Yers do with their knowledge?

I assume you mean millennials.

If the millennial elite treats S-H theory seriously, they could do something to suppress the Awakening. Perhaps they will raise their kids in the 2030s the way they were reared in the 1990s and 2000s. Perhaps they will use advanced techniques of propaganda to discourage a "romantic rebel" attitude when the time for Awakening comes.

Such a scenario has interesting consequences. If the Awakening is suppressed the new cycle will be a shorter one. New Crisis and new Civic generation will arrive in the 2060s, when some millennials will still be active. There could be a strong bond between the millennials and neo-millennials, together they could see the triumph of a civic order they couldn't achieve in the 2010s.

(03-28-2019, 07:23 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(03-28-2019, 04:44 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I think most people are essentially NPC morons that freak out over what social media says. Because social media and peer pressure doesn't influence me much, I'm essentially unhinged. When I see 100 people trying to criticize me at the same time, I get overwhelmed and it feels like the world is against me. The reason I'm unhinged is because they expect me to think the way I do because of the group. My autistic mind doesn't work that way. If they can't give me a good enough reason to obey I have no reason to. I'm used to being on the bottom of the social hierarchy. Lack of social status doesn't scare me at all. If I'm faced with a bunch of cowards who just judge me as a group but don't do anything to stop me well I can just do whatever I want and the world has to deal with it. My opinion is no matter what I do or say there's someone going to be offended, cringed out, or weirded out unless I decide to become a slave to pleasing others. It's not worth the effort. I am unapologetically myself and the world has to deal with me. I can do anything I want to do as long as nobody can force me to do it. Unless you're pointing a gun to my head you can't make me do anything I don't wanna do. If you're offended too bad, get used to me being who I am.

NPC's  LOL.










Hahahahahahahah.   I just love the smell of burning MSM in the morning. Meuller lays an egg.

* MSM has egg on its face from Meuller report

(03-23-2019, 08:23 PM)Hintergrund Wrote:

(03-07-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: GIs were more obedient to their Missionary leaders, while Millennials tend to obey their social media peer society. The later is more insidious, IMO.

Well, S&H said that Heroes/Civics enforce good conduct by peer pressure. And they don't understand if other people consider this a bad word.

Their "Prophet" leader isn't in sight yet, although Obama and Bernie might have become (despite not being the right generation).

(05-15-2019, 01:13 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(05-15-2019, 12:58 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: I think the use of the word 'hero' is misplaced.  Would one call a soldier in the Wehrmacht a hero?  Probably not.  Civic fits them better and by and large civic generations were raised to be obedient.  It is that obedience that allows them to do heroic things should they have good leadership, and horrific things if they have poor leadership.

But then again everyone knows that it is the Nomads that clean up the mess that the Idealists make.  The Civics are only tools to this end.

As to NPCs...the vast majority of humans are in fact what I'd classify as NPCs.  Many I don't even think have an internal monologue worth listening to.

Agree. I cant stand that lame term they have for those of us who are civics. I prefer civic. Far more accurate. Also agree I feel I was raised to be a tool modelled to an older generations ideal way of thinking and thing is, for the most part I agree with them. They did a good job no doubt. I just do not like the hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do....stuff like that.

(05-15-2019, 12:58 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: I think the use of the word 'hero' is misplaced. Would one call a soldier in the Wehrmacht a hero? Probably not. Civic fits them better and by and large civic generations were raised to be obedient. It is that obedience that allows them to do heroic things should they have good leadership, and horrific things if they have poor leadership.

But then again everyone knows that it is the Nomads that clean up the mess that the Idealists make. The Civics are only tools to this end.

As to NPCs...the vast majority of humans are in fact what I'd classify as NPCs. Many I don't even think have an internal monologue worth listening to.