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Cuba vs. the USA on medicine - pbrower2a - 03-19-2019 First things first: the Cuban economy is a wreck, and the political system is a monstrosity. Second, Cuba is not a good place in which to be a physician, at least from the standpoint of compensation (related to the state of the economy -- wrecked). But longevity is about as high as in the USA, which suggests that something is right in a country in which about $813 per person is spent on medical care as opposed to $9403. I am guessing that a back pain that simulated a coronary cost Medicaid at least $4000, and maybe another grand in physical therapy. I should have gotten the physical therapy first and saved some medical costs. Maybe some good primary care might have saved some huge cost to the system. If you live in Michigan, you are paying for a bad system. But so it is in all states. Quote:On public-access TV in 1985, Bernie Sanders defended an element of Fidel Castro’s regime: It was rarely mentioned that Castro provided health care to his country. Sanders grumbled that the same could not be said of then-President Reagan. OK, so if you visit Cuba you might want to ride around in a 1950s vehicle in a country whose economic progress seems to have stalled in 1960. You do not want to visit its prisons for political offenders. But I would not want to visit Florence ADX, either. If the physicians got honest pay, then the cost would be significantly higher, Remember: Cuba relies heavily upon general practicioners who are easier to train than the specialists who work largely in heroic struggles to undo the damage that years of bad habits impose on someone who eats too much fat, does not exercise, drinks too often and too much, and perhaps does street drugs. But -- Cuba does train lots of GPs, and that might keep the costs down. Cuba has long had a nearly identical life expectancy to the United States, despite widespread poverty. The humanitarian-physician Paul Farmer notes in his book Pathologies of Power that there’s a saying in Cuba: “We live like poor people, but we die like rich people.” Farmer also notes that the rate of infant mortality in Cuba has been lower than in the Boston neighborhood of his own prestigious hospital, Harvard’s Brigham and Women’s. .... Quote:In Cuba, health care is protected under the constitution as a fundamental human right. As a poor country, Cuba can’t afford to equivocate and waste money upholding that. This pressure seems to have created efficiency. Instead of pouring money into advanced medical technology, the system is forced to keep people healthy. Of course the United States constitution does not guarantee any right to medical care, food, or work. Such is up to the legislative process. The Cuban idea is to keep people from needing advanced, delicate technology. So exercise, don't smoke (except for those wonderful Cuban cigars that create no medical problems -- ha, ha!), don't overeat, drink in moderation if at all, stay active, and do not use street drugs. Or perhaps someone from a Comité de Defensa de la Revolución (the Cuban secret police) might pay an its own sort of house call. Quote:The system requires around twice as many primary-care doctors per capita as we have in the U.S., made possible because the country also invested in medical education, creating in 1998 what U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon called “the world’s most advanced medical school.” Cuba has become known for training not just domestic doctors, but those from around the world—and sending its doctors to help other, wealthier countries when needed. During the recent Ebola crisis in Sierra Leone, more than 100 Cuban doctors and nurses were at the front lines. (Note that the house call is a much-deprecated practice in America as inefficient). Quote:This is the opposite of the U.S., where people demand the former but forego the latter. There are costly barriers to primary care and preventive medicine, but showing up at an emergency room is easy. https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-cubans-live-as-long-as-americans-at-a-tenth-of-the-cost Much as I hate to say this, profit, or at least elite compensation, is the objective of American medicine.In our system, profits are an incentive to make things more expensive, including public services. RE: Cuba vs. the USA on medicine - pbrower2a - 06-10-2019 Interesting and provocative chart: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d93a53c68026e5452dba7d7b115d47583f45bd8413c8a0866dd48109cbd07e81.png Comment at will. We are excellent at making medical care expensive. Life expectancy in Michigan is just 0.1 years more than in Sri Lanka, a very poor country -- and worse than in Cuba. Cabo Verde, a sub-Saharan country fares better than seven US states. If you are thinking "race" -- it is "blacker" than Mississippi. Only six states do better than (very poor) Peru in life expectancy. OK, habits matter greatly. States toward the bottom are some of the heaviest users of cancerweed products in America. Contemplate also sedentary habits, drug use (the opiate and meth epidemics), pollution, alcoholism, and obesity. When something as severe as another Great Depression or a cataclysmic war breaks down our social arrangements, as usually happens in a 4T, we might have to rebuild without some of those arrangements better at enriching elites than at serving people. |