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RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Eric the Green - 03-01-2017 (03-01-2017, 03:54 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: Well, looking at the 2016 Election, it is actually natural to question how far our voting franchise now extends. Way too many idiots are allowed to vote. Property ownership is probably not a good screen. But maybe there is a good screen that could be used. Open to suggestions on this one. How about we not let Republicans vote? /sarc RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Odin - 03-02-2017 (03-01-2017, 03:54 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(02-28-2017, 11:32 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Steve Bannon has been a topic of conversation on a daily basis in the media, mostly because of his disturbing past and current actions. The Washington Post published a piece on Bannon, as did The Boston Globe, which brought some things to light that certainly doesn’t look good for Trump’s chief strategist. In an ideal world I would be OK with some kind of "civic literacy" test, but history shows that this country cannot be trusted to not twist it into a vehicle for racial discrimination. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Odin - 03-02-2017 Well, turns out Jeff Sessions committed perjury in front of the Senate by lying about contact with the Russian government. Time for Al Franken to grill his ass, again. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - David Horn - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 08:03 AM)Odin Wrote: Well, turns out Jeff Sessions committed perjury in front of the Senate by lying about contact with the Russian government. Time for Al Franken to grill his ass, again. Amazing isn't it. Trump actually managed to give a speech that sounded sane, then this blows-up. This is a much bigger story than just Sessions. We'll be discussing the Trump-Russia connection all summer, maybe longer. Debbie Stabenow has made an issue of getting Trump's tax returns. Between the drip-drip-drip from the intelligence community and the bombshells in his taxes, count on this being entertaining at the very least. I'm starting to think that self preservation may drive the GOP House and Senate to act. They went after Hillary's emails for months. This is a whole lot juicier than that, and a lot more serious to boot. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - pbrower2a - 03-02-2017 It's political survival for Republicans. -- and perhaps more critically in the House of Representatives. All Republicans (and Democrats, of course) are up for re-election in 2018. Connections to a party with a major scandal are not good for winning re-election. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - SomeGuy - 03-02-2017 What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Marypoza - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? -- nope, just the same idiots spoiling for a war with Russia still RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - David Horn - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? During his AG hearing in the Senate, Al Franken asked him a direct question about anyone in the Trump camp speaking to Russian officials during the campaign, and he outright lied. Clinton did much less and got impeached. The worst part of it: he actually added some detail to the response that exceeded the information asked, by calling himself a surrogate. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - David Horn - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 03:49 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? Perjury under oath is a felony. Sessions crossed that line, and had to know he was doing it; he's a lawyer, after all. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - SomeGuy - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 04:11 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? Wasn't Sessions a sitting Senator at the time? Was he discussing the election, on behalf of the Trump campaign? These really aren't even rhetorical questions. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - David Horn - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 04:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:11 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? He was asked what he would do if “there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign.” Sessions responded, “I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I didn’t have — did not have communications with the Russians, and I’m unable to comment on it.” The question was broad, and included any communication, and he lied about it. When you are under oath, that's perjury. He met with the Ambassador twice. It may have been innocent, but that's not what he said. If he had answered honestly, I doubt he would have been confirmed. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - SomeGuy - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 04:31 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:11 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? So, is the panic over perjury, or over meeting with the Russian Ambassador in general? RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - David Horn - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 04:37 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:31 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:11 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? It's always the cover-up that gets them in trouble. Watergate was a two-bit burglary until Nixon lied about it. Clinton getting a blowjob was juicy but petty. He also lied, and that was the basis for this impeachment. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - SomeGuy - 03-02-2017 We'll see if that's the direction they choose to go with it. Looking at the news, they seem to be playing up the Manchurian (Siberian?) Candidate angle instead, which is more concerning. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Odin - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 03:49 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? You can't can't "spoil for a war" that Russia already started, but keep your head stuck in the anti-American fringe-leftist sand. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Ragnarök_62 - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 06:53 PM)Odin Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:49 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? Define "American" in this context. RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Eric the Green - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 04:37 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:31 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:11 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? Both! Sessions! What a snake. He's wrong on absolutely everything. He is a racist. He ought to resign and of course should never have been nominated. His nomination helped prove Trump is a snake too. An alligator in the swamp. He was a major advisor in the campaign. Consorting with the Russians about how to get them elected and screw over American interests. I say, speak up, and get him out now! RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Marypoza - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 07:19 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(03-02-2017, 06:53 PM)Odin Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:49 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? -- hell, define war for that matter. What war? RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Ragnarök_62 - 03-02-2017 (03-02-2017, 08:43 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(03-02-2017, 07:19 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(03-02-2017, 06:53 PM)Odin Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:49 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? Yes, that's a detail as well. The word, "war" has been fuzzied up a lot. I mean, like other post, how does "war" apply to inanimate substances? RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - Odin - 03-03-2017 (03-02-2017, 04:37 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:31 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(03-02-2017, 04:11 PM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: What is this hoopla regarding Sessions about? He spoke to the Russian Ambassador while a sitting Senator? Is there something else I'm missing? Its about a patter of behavior of Trump surrogates trying to negotiate foreign policy before Trump was actually sworn in, and then lying about it and trying to hide it. |