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Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 (starting with the earliest) Johnny Carson Spencer Dryden (drummer) Phillip Johnson (architect) Samuel Francis (essayist) Sandra Dee (actress) John Raitt (Broadway performer) Peter Benenson (founder of Amnesty International) Ossie Davis (actor) Bobby Short (singer) George F. Kennan (diplomatic great) John DeLorean (car by his name) Andre Norton (SF writer) Terry Schiavo (cause celebre for the resuscitate-everyone group) Mitch Hedberg, comedian Pope John Paul II Saul Bellow, novelist Prince Rainier of Monaco Andre Dworkin (radical feminist) Peter Rodino (led impeachment against Nixon) Col. David P. Hackworth (promoter of advancement through military ranks) David Sutherland, D&D artist Chet Helms, rock impresario Gaylord Nelson, former US Senator James W. Stockdale (POW hero, Perot's VP choice) James Doohan (Montgomery Scott in the original Star Trek) General William Westmoreland (top US general in the Vietnam War) Peter Jennings, ABC TV news anchor John Johnson, editor of Ebony and Jet Magazines Barbara bel Geddes, actress Robert Moog, inventor of Moog synthesizer Jude Wanninski, conservative thinker Chief Justice William Rehnquist Bob Denver (Gilligan of Gilliigan's Island) Don Adams (Maxwell Smart of Get Smart) M. Scott Peck, self-help guru Simon Wiesenthal, hunter of Nazi war criminals August Wilson (no live link) Nipsey Russell, comedian Rosa Parks, pioneer of the Civil Rights struggle in the South Peter Drucker, management expert Link Wray (discoverer of the "Power Chord" in rock Pat Morita, actor Alfred Anderson, last soldier to hear the guns go silent for the Christmas truce Stan Berenstain (co-writer of the Berenstain Bears of child literature) Clarence Laking, last Canadian WWI veteran Senator Eugene McCarthy Richard Pryor, comedian someone identified as the Queen of Bootleggers Senator William Proxmire ("no Golden Fleece to line his coffin!") Jack Anderson, journalist Shelly Winters, actress Wilson Pickett (obscure) Lew Rawls, singer Coretta Scott (Mrs. Martin Luther) King (Western Union telegram services) Al Lewis ("Grandpa Munster") Betty Friedan (Feminine Mystique) Wendy Wasserstein, writer Friedrich Engel, Nazi war criminal, a/k/a "Butcher of Genoa" -- bad guys make history too. Peter Benchley (Jaws) Dave Tatsuno, secret photographer of the Topaz 'relocation' camp Phil Brown, actor Curt Gowdy, sportscaster Andreas Katsoulas (SF writer) Don Knotts, comedian Claude R. Kinsey, escaper from a Nazi POW camp Darren McGavin, actor Octavia Butler, novelist Dennis Weaver, actor Harry Brown, financial writer Jack Wilde, child actor Dana Reeve, handicap advocate Kirby Puckett, HOF baseball star Ali Farka Toure (sorry, link dead) Gordon Parks, photographer Luna (dead link) Slobodan Milosevich (dictator, kleptocrat, and war criminal -- roast in Hell!) Maureen Stapleton, actress Buck Owens, country music performer Lyn Nofziger and Casper Weinberger, two figures of the Reagan Presidency on the same day Stanislas Lem (Solaris) Gene Pitney, singer-songwriter Reverend William Sloane Coffin Muriel Spark, novelist Arthur Winston, perfect attendance on his job as a Los Angeles bus terminal worker (missed only the day on which he buried his wife) Scott Crossfield, first test pilot to fly at Mach II Tom Dundee, folk singer Jane Jacobs, social critic John Kenneth Galbraith, economist Louis Rukeyser, business journalist Jean-François Revel, French social critic Floyd Patterson, boxer Jaroslav Pelikan, scholar on Christianity Lew Anderson (Clarabelle the Cow on Howdy Doody) Frankie Thomas, actor (Space Cadet) Senator Lloyd Bentsen (great one -- and Texas is largely a political sewer now) Marshall Fenwick, study of popular culture Desmond Decker, reggae singer Leon Wiel 109, who won decorations for heroism in both WWI and WWII for France Frank Muther, survivor of Bataan Death March who got a memorial started Ken Lay, one of the biggest economic criminals ever (Enrob Corporation) Aaron Spelling, RV producer Arf Mardin, pop music figure Syd Barrett, guitarist for Pink Floyd Jim Baen, SF writer June Allyson Mickey Spillane, mystery writer Elmer Hendl, one of the most decorated WWI military chaplains Jack Warden, actor Harry Oliveri, inventor of the Philly cheesesteak sandwich (medical nightmare) Ta Mok, Khmer Rouge mass murderer (Roast in Hell!) Pamela Waechter, murder victim Elizabeth Schwartzkopf, opera singer Susan Butcher, dog-driving champion at Iditarod Arthur Lee, rock musician James Van Allen, physicist (Van Allen radiation bands) Alfredo Stroessner, Paraguayan dictator Glenn Ford, actor Steve Irwin, wildlife showman Ann Richards, former Texas Governor (successor would be George W. Bush) Jeff Cooper, rewrote the Marine Corps 'book' on the use of small arms Ed Benedict, creator of The Flintstones Freddy Fender, Tejano musician Christopher Glenn, TV/radio journalist William Styron, novelist Sophie's Choice Ed Bradley, TV journalist Jack Williamson, SF writer Jack Palance, actor Milton Friedman, economist Bob Altman, movie director Boz Burrell, bassist Jean Kirkpatrick, former Ambassador to the United Nations Moses Hardy, last African-American veteran of WWI Chilean dictator Pinochet (Roast in Hell!) Elizabeth Bolden, then the oldest living person (116 in 2006) Lamar Hunt, billionaire Ahmet Ertegun, founder of Atlantic Records James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" US President Gerald R. Ford Sadam Hussein, horrific tyrant, warmonger, and serial mass murderer. Roast in Hell! (I called him "Satan Hussein"). Peter Boyle, actor Del Reeves, country music singer Mamofuko Ando, inventor of ramen noodles Yvonne de Carlo "Lily Munster" Benny Parsons, auto racer and commentator Art Buchwald, political cartoonist world's oldest person (age 115 in 2007, WWI vet) his successor, then 114 in 2007 Molly Ivins, liberal columnist in the lion's den for liberals (Texas) Anna Nicole Smith, gold-digger Lothar-Guenther Buchheim, author of Das Boot Arthur Schlesinger, historian Brad Delp, lead singer for Boston My first post there: Quote:Much delayed. I see Johnny Carson as one of the leading characters of the Silent Generation, a prime example of a memorable contributor to the American character. Jack Stone, eccentric character Kurt Vonnegut, author Boris Yeltsin, first President of the Russian Federation David Halberstam, political critic Bobby Puckett, novelty singer "Monster Mash" Mstislav Rostropovich, cellist (first of my entries as an obituary -- others to get asterisks)* Walter Schirra, astronaut Jerry Falwell, television preacher Phillip Kaiser, diplomat Stanley Miller, biologist Don "Mr. Wizard" Herbert, TV star John Barber, tuba player lady Bird Johnson, former US First Lady Ingmar Bergman, great Swedish director Tom Snyder, TV host former King Zahir Shah of Afghanistan (couldn't the world have left well enough alone?) Michelangelo Antonioni, Italian director Bill Walsh, football coach (San Francisco 49ers) Lee Hazlewood, singer-songwriter Rocco Petrone, director of launch operations at NASA during the 1960s E. Howard Hunt, political dirty work in Watergate Brooke Astor, heiress and philanthropist Leona Helmsley, entrepreneurial bully and convicted criminal for tax fraud Noah Charles Pierce (dead link) Richard Jewell, wrongly-accused of terrorist act Luciano Pavarotti, opera tenor Madeleine L'Engle, writer of children's books Sir Tasker Williams, WW 2 Hero Robert Jordan, fantasy writer Marcel Marceau, mime Lois Maxwell, actress Robert Goulet, singer Porter Wagoner, country music singer Fup, senior cat at Powell's Book Store Washoe, chimp who used sign language Norman Mailer, writer Paul Warfield Tibbets, pilot of the Enola Gay that dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima* Beverly Sills, opera singer Laraine Day, actress second-to-last survivor of the RMS Titanic Ira Levin, novelist* Dick "Don't squeeze the Charmin" Wilson Vladimir Kryuchkov, KGB chief and plotter against Gorbachev * Evel Knievel, stunt motorcyclist Quote:Two disparate, elderly figures of music: Floyd Red Crow Westerman (dead link) Archduke Karl Ludwig of Austria Dan Fogelberg, singer-songwriter Bill Strauss, 60; Political Insider Who Stepped Over Into Comedy http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121802158.html (the William Strauss of the theory) Oscar Peterson, 1925-2007 * [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/arts/25petersoncnd.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin][/url] RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 oldest then-living American WWI veteran Benazir Bhutto, President of Pakistan -- assassinated Dr. Erich Kastner, last German veteran of WWI Joyce Carlson, animator for Disney Bobby Fischer, chess grandmaster and political kook Suzanne Pleshette, comedienne* Heath Ledger, actor Brad Renfro, child film star* former Indonesian dictator Suharto* Gordon Hinckley, LDS (Mormon) President Christodoulos, Greek Orthodox leader Margaret Truman Daniel, daughter of Harry Truman, and novelist Shell Kepler, actress Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, meditation guru Joshua Lederberg, polymath scientist* Charles Fawcett, player character Roy Scheider, actor Tom Lantos, US Congressman and Holocaust survivor Earl Butz, politician Imad Mugniya, Hezbollah terrorist and mass-murderer (Roast in Hell!)* Pearl Witherington, British spy in WWII* William F. Buckley, editor of the National Review when it was readable. Buddy Miles, drummer Myron Cope, sports announcer (Pittsburgh Steelers) Luis Edgar Devia Silva, drug trafficker and Marxist rebel in Colombia (Roast in Hell!)* Janet Kagan, SF writer Gary Gygax, creator of Dungeons and Dragons last French survivor of WWI Arthur C. Clarke, science-fiction author ("2001: a Space Odyssey") Ivan Dixon, actor and director Vicki van Meter, young aviator Paul Scofield, actor* Richard Widmark, actor Dith Pran, photojournalist and survivor of the Cambodian Killing Fields* last Turkish veteran of WWI Charlton Heston, actor Edward Lorenz, mathematician* Albert Hofmann, discoverer of LSD Mildred Delores Jeter Loving, wife in the marriage in the US Supreme Court case Loving v. Virginia Irving Robbins, entrepreneur (Baskin-Robbins) Irena Sandler. Polish "Righteous Gentile"* Hamilton Jordan, political strategist for President Jimmy Carter John Phillip Law, actor Robert Mondavi, vintner Robert Asprin, SF author Dick Martin, comedian and TV executive "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In" Sidney Pollack, actor and director* Harvey Korman, comedian* Yves Saint-Laurent, clothing designer Bo Diddley, guitarist* Franz Kunstler, last Austro-Hungarian veteran of WWI Jim McKay, sports announcer (Wide World of Sports). Grigory Romanov, potential alternative to Mikhail Gorbachev in 1985* Eric Wujcik, role-play game designer Tim Russert, television political journalsit Cyd Charisse - dancer for Hollywood movies* George Carlin, stand-up comedian Leonard Pennario, classical pianist* former Senator Jesse Helms (Reactionary, North Carolina) Quote: Tony Snow, former White House Press Secretary Michael DeBakey, cardiac surgeon Estelle Getty, actress* Jo Stafford, singer from the Big Band era Norman Dello Joio, composer* Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Soviet dissident and novelist* Quote:It's hard to overstate the Crisis that the Russians had from the Bolshevik Revolution to the end of the Second World War. I can't imagine anyone going through such times as a teenager (which Solzhenitsyn was during the forced collectivization and the Great Purge) and World War II as a young adult (Solzhenitsyn was 21 at the time of the Nazi invasion of the USSR) without facing severe conflicts about the basic realities of life. Bernie Brillstein, TV executive* Bernie Mac, comedian Isaac Hayes, musician* Don LaFontaine, TV voiceover artist Bill Meléndez, animator* [/url] Quote:[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Mel%C3%A9ndez]José Cuauhtemoc "Bill" Meléndez (November 15, 1916 – September 2, 2008)was a Mexican-born American character animator, film director, and film producer, known for his cartoons for Warner Brothers and the Peanuts series. Meléndez provided the voice of Snoopy and Woodstock in the latter as well. A native of the Mexican city of Hermosillo, Sonora, Meléndez was educated in U.S. public schools in Douglas, Arizona, and later in Los Angeles at the Chouinard Art Institute (which would later become California Institute of the Arts). Disney In 1938, Meléndez was hired by Walt Disney to work on animated short films and feature-length films such as Bambi, Fantasia, and Dumbo. While there, he worked to unionize the rank and file animators he was working with. A member of the Screen Cartoonists' Guild, he left as part of the 1941 Disney animators' strike and never returned as an employee. Warner Brothers Three years later, he joined Leon Schlesinger's team at the Warner Brothers studios, where, as a member of the Bob Clampett, Art Davis and Robert McKimson units, he animated on a number of Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig and Daffy Duck shorts (as "J.C. Melendez"). UPA put him on their payroll in 1948 to work on many television commercials, as well as the Gerald McBoing-Boing and Madeline shorts. Bill Meléndez Productions After a decade at two smaller production houses, Meléndez founded his own production company in 1964. Bill Melendez Productions helped produce the annually broadcast Christmas special A Charlie Brown Christmas, for which he won an Emmy Award and the George Foster Peabody Award despite having to work on short notice and with a tight budget. Meléndez performed the voice of Snoopy, who normally in the specials does not talk. Melendez was the only animator authorized to work on Charles Schultz's Peanuts characters. Meléndez went on to do over 75 half-hour Peanuts specials, including the 1989 miniseries This is America, Charlie Brown, as well as four feature-length motion pictures – all with partner Lee Mendelson. In 1979, he directed a made-for-TV animated version of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe with Warner Bros. for the Children's Television Workshop. Amongst the other comic strip characters he animated were Cathy and Garfield, as well as the 1992 special Frosty Returns. Other work In addition to animation, Meléndez was once a faculty member at the University of Southern California's Cinema Arts Department. Don Haskins, who changed the way basketball is played: B Quote:y RICHARD GOLDSTEIN David Wallace, novelist (This is about when a bunch of large business started dying in what looked like a replay of the Great Stock Market Crash of 1929). Richard Wright (Not the author -- one of the founding members of Pink Floyd).* Stan Winston, special effects expert* Miroslav Havel, master of the art of (Waterford) Glass* Paul Newman, one of the greatest actors ever* Boris Yefimov, propaganda cartoonist for the Soviet Union, and one of the last prominent figures of the Lost Generation (age 107 in 2008).* House Peters, Jr. ("Mr. Clean") Roy K. Moore -- FBI investigator* Quote:By HOLBROOK MOHR Edie Adams, actress and singer. Tony Hillerman, novelist Studs Terkel, journalist and author* Marilyn Ferguson, New Age writer. Madelyn Dunham, grandmother of Barack Obama, who would soon be elected President of the United States Michael Crichton, author three terrorists executed Indonesia for the Bali bombings (Roast in Hell!)* Miriam Makeba, South African musician Mitch Mitchell, rock drummer Betty Jones, entrepreneur (the Slinky). Joern Utzon, Danish architect -- Sydney Opera House world's oldest person at the time Odetta Holmes, folk singer Betty Page, actrress Van Johnson, actor* Majel Barrett Roddenberry, voice actor (computer voice in Star Trek) Paul Weyrich, guru of American right-wing politics* W. Mark Felt, FBI agent, "Deep Throat" in exposure of Watergate scandal Mark Everett, child actor gone very bad (criminal), hostage standoff* Yueri Glazkov, Soviet cosmonaut* Eartha Kitt, entertainer* Samuel Huntington, historian* ![]() Quote:Samuel P. Huntington died at age 81: Quote:Last edited by pbrower2a; 12-27-2008 at 11:54 PM. Some of the intellectual foundation of Howe and Strauss' theory. RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 Christine Maggiore, pseudoscientific crank (AIDS denial)* former US Senator Claiborne Pell Helen Suzman, South African politicain and Apartheid opponent* oldest living person of the time Donald Westlake, mystery writer "Willie", pet cat of the George W. Bush White House* Father Richard John Neuhaus, Lutheran clergyman converted to Catholicism and influential theologian Patrick "The Prisoner" McGoohan, Irish-English actor* Ricardo Montalbán, Mexican-born US actor* Trammell Crow, real-estate developer* John Clifford Mortimer, British barrister Andrew Wyeth, painter Bill Stone, last British veteran of both World Wars William Murray Werber, baseball player and businessman -- last living teammate of Babe Ruth* John Updike, writer Lukas Foss, conductor and composer* Gerry Niewood, Coleman Mellett, musicians in the Chuck Mangione band - airplane crash* Paul Harvey, radio huckster and right-wing ideologue* Kelly Groucutt, rock musician Leonore Annenberg, philantrhropist* Natasha Richardson, British actress* Jade Goody, British reality TV star Jack Dreyfus, entrepreneur in mutual funds* Maurice Jarre, film composer* George Kell, HOF baseball star and broadcaster (Detroit Tigers)* John Hope Franklin, historian Raul Recardo Alfonsín, Argentine politician, freely-elected successor of a nasty military regime* Alan Livingston, record executive (getting the Beatles on contract with Capitol Records John Colin Campbell Jordan, British neo-Nazi* Quote:Good riddance to a fascist pig! JG Ballard, British novelist former US Representative Orton Ballard (D-Utah) Mark "the Bird" Fidrych, colorful baseball pitcher David Kellerman, CEO of Fannie Mae, suicide* Beatrice Arthur, actress* Delara Darabi, victim of harsh judicial process in Iran* Jack Kemp, American politician and Republican VP nominee in 1996 Dom DeLuise, comedian* Roh Moo-hyun, former President of South Korea* Eonald Takaki, academic* David Carradine, actor Ernest R. May, historian Koko Taylor, Blues singer Silvio Sergio Bonaccorsi Barbato, Air France 447, Brazilian conductor* John Eddy, astronomer* Ed McMahon, actor, sidekick (Johnny Carson), voiceover artist* Farrah Fawcett, actress Michael Jackson, singer Billy Mays, pitchman Karl Malden, actor* Steve McNair, retired NFL quarterback, humanitarian -- murder victim Robert S. MacNamara, public administrator Oscar Mayer, entrepreneur (cold cuts) Walter Cronkhite, TV journalist. pbrower2a Quote: world's oldest man at the time Corazon Aquino, Philippine President and successor to a nasty dictator* Budd Schulberg, screenwriter* John Hughes, director Mike Seeger, folk singer* Les Paul, musician Robert Novak, journalist Jonathan Laster (brother of one of our posters -- we can get sentimental) Senator Edward Kennedy* Dominick Dunne, TV star Larry Knechtel, rock musician Larry Gelbart, screenwriter* August Niels Bohr, Danish physicist (son of Niels)* oldest woman of the time -- and she was proud to vote as an African-American for Barack Obama Framl Batten, founder of The Weather Channel Norman Borlaug, agronomist (Green Revolution)* Patrick Swayze, actor the real Norma Rae Jody Powell, Press Secretary for President Jimmy Carter* Henry Gibson, comedian Mary Travers, singer (Peter, Paul, and Mary) Irving Kristol, neo-conservative thinker* Bill Safire, journalist? Alicia de Larrocha, classical pianist* (someone as unworthy of mention as could be) Susan Atkins, murderer (Tate-LaBianca slayings associated with the Manson cult) Marek Edelman -- Holocaust survivor, Polish political acticist and cardiologist* Isaac Gelfand -- Soviet and Russian mathematician* Lü Zhengcao -- last living general of the Chinese Communist revolution* Al Martino -- smooth singer* George Tuska, comic book artist* Elizabeth Clare Prophet, survival cultist preacher Ignacio Ponseti -- innovative physician* Soupy sales -- comedian Yoshiro Muraki -- Japanese set designer (for some Kurosawa films)* Claude Lévi-Strauss, French anthropologist* Vitaly Ginzburg -- Soviet nuclear physicist* Mr. Fatahian -- victim of political persecution in Iran* Lino Lacedelli -- Italian mountaineer, first person to scale K2. Albert Crewe -- atomic physicist H C Robbins Landon -- British musicologist RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 Erich Boehme -- editor, Der Spiegel John Allen Mohammed, "Beltway sniper" -- executed Lino Lacedelli, Italian mountaineer, first to fully scale K2 Albert Crewe, physicist Liam Clancy, Irish folk musician Kálmán Markovits --member of the 1956 Hungarian water polo team that overpowered its Soviet counterpart in the wake of the crushed Hungarian Revolution* Paul Anthony Samuelson -- writer of the most heavily used economics textbook for the survey course in college, at one time.* Quote:Paul Anthony Samuelson (May 15, 1915 – December 13, 2009) was an American economist known for his contributions to many fields of economics, beginning with his general statement of the comparative statics method in his 1947 book Foundations of Economic Analysis. Samuelson was awarded the John Bates Clark Medal in 1947 and was sole recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 1970, the second year of the Prize. Oral Roberts, televangelist Fred Honsman, right-wing radio (KDKA) commentator Jennifer Jones, actress* Roy Disney, intellectual property magnate (nephew of Walt, and the last family member in the corporate operation* Brittany Murphy, actress Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazer -- Iranian clergy and critic of the clerical dictatorship* Abdurrahman Wahid, former Indonesian President* -- begin 2010 -- Tiger expert, Billy Arjan Singh Began as a hunter of the ultimate macho prize (the Indian tiger, the most fearsome land predator that a man could face before World War II ) to its protector toward the end of his life. Oh, how times change! Jean Carroll, stand-up comedian of the 1940s and 1950s James von Brunn, who shot up the Holocaust Museum Quote:One of the lowest bolgie of Dante's Inferno, almost certainly, if not in the recent annex established for Nazis and Stalinists, the bolgia that Dante never visited because he was born too soon to do so. Miep Gies, who harbored Anne Frank's family and discovered the diary Teddy Pendergrass, musician Glenn Bell, founder of Taco Bell Robert Parker, police fiction writer (Spenser) Ali Hassan al-Majid, a/k/a "Chemical Ali", Iraqi war criminal Comment on him: Quote:He was one of the worst persons to have ever lived, one of the few who could be compared to the worst Nazi war criminals, Japanese war criminals of World War II, Stalinist henchmen, or Khmer Rouge without being a Nazi, Japanese military figure of World War II, Stalinist, or Khmer Rouge. former US Senator Charles Mathias, one of the last real liberal Republicans in the Senate Pernell Roberts, American actor J.D. Salinger, writer of The Catcher in the Rye, the book that we were absolutely not supposed to read but dideven if we were good kids Howard Zinn, writer Jean Simmons, actress Kate McGarrigle, folk singer Peter Calvocoressi, head of the cryptographic unit that did incalculable damage to the Nazi war machine* Dick McGuire, Basketball Hall of Famer* former US Representative John Murtha Walter Morrison, inventor of the Frisbee Phil Harris, a star of Deadliest Catch former US Congressman Charlie Wilson, early supporter of anti-Soviet resistance in Afghanistan Irina Arkhipova, Russian opera singer* Al Haig, soldier and political operative Orlando Zapato Tamayo, Cuban dissident (hunger strike)* David Soyer, American cellist* Sylvia Pressler, judge who opened Little League baseball to girls Merlin Olsen, football star and actor Dorothy Janis, one of the last silent film actors. Not Silent generation -- silent movies!* Doris "Granny D" Haddock, American politician Cory Haim, actor Fess Parker, actor "Daniel Boone" Pak Nam-Gi, North Korean purge victim* Stewart Udall, Secretary of the Interior under JFK and LBJ* Wolfgang Wagner, German musical figure* Quote:Wolfgang Wagner (30 August 1919 – 21 March 2010) was best known as the director (Festspielleiter) of the Bayreuth Festival, a position he initially assumed alongside his brother Wieland in 1951 until the latter's death in 1966. From then on, he assumed total control until he retired in 2008, although many of the productions which he commissioned were severely criticized in their day. He had been plagued by family conflicts and criticism for many years. He was the son of Siegfried Wagner, the grandson of Richard Wagner, and the great-grandson of Franz Liszt.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Wagner][/url] RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 Jaime Escalante -- Bolivian-born American schoolteacher who showed that underestimated kids could do tough math in high school* Miguel Cuellar, baseball pitcher* John Forsythe, actor* Anatoly Dobnrynin, long-time Soviet ambassador to the USA* Lech Kaczynski, President of Poland... killed in plane crash along with his wife and several Polish officials* The damage to Polish political life in that plane crash resembles the damage of a military coup. Benjamin Lawson Hooks, former NAACP President* Darryl Gates, retired controversial police chief of Los Angeles* Juan Antonio Samaranch, long-time President of the International Olympic Committee* Paul Schäfer Schneider, ex-Nazi, child molester, using a community that he founded as a place for the dirty work of the Chilean military dictatorship. (Roast in Hell!) RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 Ernie Harwell, long-time voice of the Detroit Tigers on radio broadcasts* Quote: William Earnest "Ernie" Harwell (January 25, 1918 – May 4, 2010) was an American sportscaster, known for his long career calling play-by-play of Major League Baseball games. For 55 years, 42 of them with the Detroit Tigers, Harwell called the action on radio and television. In January 2009, the American Sportscasters Association ranked Harwell 16th on its list of Top 50 Sportscasters of All Time. Speaking of baseball -- how did I miss Robin Roberts? RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 Umaru Musa Yar'Adua -- former President of Nigeria* Lena Horne -- American entertainer* Frank Frazetta -- fantasy artist Moshe Rosen, founder of Jews for Jesus* Lieutenant John Finn, USN, oldest Medal of Honor recipient Art Linkletter, early TV host Gary Coleman, child TV star Dennis Hopper, actor John Wooden, college basketball coach Rue McLanahan, actress Manute Bol, retired Sudanese basketball player active in America and humanitarian* Edith Shain, American nurse shown in one of the definitive post-WWII images of celebration Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) Rodolfo Torre Cantú, Mexican politician -- assassinated* Louis Moyroud, French-American inventor photo typesetting * Two figures of the New York Yankees -- announcer Bob Sheppard and owner George Steinbrenner* Sir Charles Mackerras, Australian-born conductor* Daniel Schorr, journalist (I met him in Berkeley!) Ralph Houk, baseball manager Robert Butler, gerontologist Jack Tatum, "bad boy" football player Quote:Comment by KaiserD2 Mitch Miller, musician Bobby Hebb, one-hit wonder as a songwriter ("Sunny") Robert Boyle, art director (including some Hitchcock masterpieces)* Tony Judt, historian Former US Senator Ted Stevens, air crash Former, disgraced US Representative Dan Rostenkowski Hannah Greeley Kaiser, mother of one of the posters Bobby Thompson, baseball player "Piper Bill", William Millin, bagpipe player on D-Day (depicted in The Longest Day)* Peter Linz, motorcycle racer* Corneille, originally Guillaume Cornelis van Beverloo, Dutch artist* Jefferson A. Thomas, one of the Little Rock Nine* Edwin Newman, TV journalist Kenneth Franklin Weaver, science writer for National Geographic* Gennady Yanayev, leader of the 1991 coup against Mikhail Gorbachev* Gloria Rose, actress* George Blanda, football star Eddie Fisher, singer Greg Giraldo, comedian Tony Curtis, actor Michael Sobran, Far Right intellectual* Dorothy Sucher, advocate for a free press in a USSC case Werner Winter, German linguist Leona Gage, disgraced Miss USA pageant winnter of 1957 Joan Sutherland, Australian opera singer* Solomon Burke, soul singer Barbara Billingsley, a/k/a June Cleaver in "Leave it to Beaver"* Benoît Mandelbrot, French mathematician who introduced the fractal* Tom Bosley, actor* Bob Guccione, pornographer (Penthouse Magazine)* Mary Emma Allison, "Trick or Treat for UNICEF"* Ted Sorenson, JFK aide Sparky Anderson, baseball manager (Cincinnati Reds, Detroit Tigers)* Michael Seifert, Nazi war criminal* Antonio Cárdenas Guillén, Mexican drug cartel leader -- FBI Ten Most Wanted List. Shirley Verrett, opera singer* Henryk Mikołaj Górecki, Polish classical composer* Baby Marie Osborne 11/05/1911-11/11/2010 (one of the first child stars in cinema)* Chalmers Johnson, historian Alex Anderson, creator of cartoon characters Rocky and Bullwinkle Leslie Nielsen, actor Jill Claiborne, actress Dino di Laurentiis, movie producer Walter Matthau, actor Ron Santo, baseball player* Don Meredith, football star and star football announcer Elizabeth Edwards, wife of John Edwards, 2004 Democratic nominee for Vice President Blake Edwards, movie director Bob Feller, Hall of Fame baseball pitcher* Steve Landesberg, actor* Teena Marie, ethnic-bending singer Geraldine Hoff Doyle, inspiration for "Rosie the Riveter"* the Kodachrome process RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 Fred Foy -- introductory voice for The Lone Ranger. Gerry Rafferty -- singer/songwriter ...Before this shooting I had some belief that representative Gabrielle Giffords had a chance to become President of the United States. Quote:The horrific shooting of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others Saturday is hard enough to comprehend, even without knowing that one of the victims was a little girl. Quote:Last edited by pbrower2a; 01-09-2011 at 05:37 PM. Reason: add link Dick Winters, a real person in the real Band of Brothers. Col. William M. Bower, last surviving pilot of the Doolittle raid upon Japan. R. Sargent Shriver, first head of the Peace Corps Margaret Whiting, singer from the '40s and '50s. Susannah York, actress Frank Bessac, OSS agent and anthropologist Ric Hesse, Chicago restaurateur Jack LaLanne, fitness guru. As I said one time, "he looks all 60 of his 90 years".* Pete Postlethwaite, British actor Anna Yablonska, very young and promising Ukrainian poet -- terrorist attack.* Daniel Bell -- neo-conservative intellectual* Tura Satana, actress Gary Moore (not the game-show host!), Northern Irish musician Chuck Tanner, baseball manager* Blanche Honeggger Moyse, Swiss-born conductor.* (no obvious relation to the Swiss composer Arthur Honegger) George Shearing, British jazz pianist Kenneth Mars, actor. Cecil Kaiser, then believed the oldest former player of the Negro (baseball) League* Ronald Hickman, race car driver and inventor of the Black & Decker Workmate* Duke Snider, Hall of Fame baseball player* Frank Buckles, last American WWI veteran Jane Russell, actress John Lounge, astronaut* Mike DeStefano, comedian David Broder, journalist Owen Laster, literary agent Hugh Martin, composer * Leslie Collier, improved storage for smallpox vaccines* Owsley Stanley, chemist former Secretary of State Warren Christopher Elizabeth Taylor, British-American actress Geraldine Ferraro, 1984 Democratic nominee for Vice-President Diana Wynne Jones, actress Farley Granger, actor* Paul Baran, Internet pioneer Baruch Samuel Bloomberg, enemy of infectious diseases* Sidney Lumet, director William Donald Schaefer, huge figure in Maryland politics* Grete Waltz, marathon runner -- female pioneer Madeleine Pugh, TV writer Tran Le Xuan, a/k/a Madame Nhu (the Lady Macbeth of the Republic of Vietnam?) Phoebe Snow, singer Enrique Arancibia, murderer and kidnapping enforcer of the brutal Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, stabbed to death* (Roast in Hell!) Osama bin Laden (Roast in Hell!) Robert W. Finzel --Chicago artist* Jackie Cooper, actor Charles Choules, last male WWI veteran Seve Ballesteros, Spanish golfer* Robert DeShaun "Tractor" Traylor -- professional basketball player who had shady eligibility while in college* Bernard Greenhouse, cellist (Beaux Arts Trio)* Thomas Fulton, physicist Harmon Killibrew, Hall of Fame slugger* Jeff Conaway, actor Gil Scott-Heron, rap musician former Texas Governor Bill Clements Osamu Maruoka, Japanese terrorist hijacker (Japanese Red Army)* Jack "Doctor Death" Kevorkian* James Arness, actor Rector Maksud Ibnugadzharovich Sadikov, Dagestani peace-seeker -- suspicious , violent circumstances* John Hospers -- who won only sixteen fewer electoral votes than George McGovern in 1972* RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-14-2016 Gunnar Fischer -- Swedish cinematographer, collaborator with Bergman Clarence Clemons -- saxophonist Yelena Bonner -- wife of Soviet dissident and physicist Andrei Sakharov* Peter Falk, actor Bil Haast -- used his body to create antivenins and lived to 100* Otto von Habsburg -- Crown Prince of Austria, Hungary, and Bohemia* Josef Suk -- great Czech violinist* Dick Williams, baseball manager* John Mackey, NFL tight end and first President of the NFL Player's Association* Betty Ford, former First Lady John S. Toll, academic Sherwood Schwartz, screenwriter and TV producer (Gilligan's Island, The Brady Bunch)* Karen Khachaturian -- composer. (Note: "Karen" is a male name in Armenian).* Amy Winehouse -- singer Steve Prefontaine, Olympic long-distance runner General John Shalikashvili, US Army* Lucian Freud, artist, grandson of you-know-who* James Ford Steele, KKK terrorist, murderer* (Roast in Hell!) Rudolf Brazda, last surviving homosexual victim of the Nazis* Annette DiGregorio, actress Ray Anderson, environmentalist former US Senator Mark Hatfield* Jerry Leiber, rock-and-roll lyricist* Mike Flanagan, pitcher and other roles in the Baltimore Orioles' organization David Edwards, blues musician* Lee Roy Selmon, NFL star* Betty Skelton, daredevil pilot Huge loss to hockey with the Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash* 75th anniversary, death of the thylacine* Michael Stern Hart, founder of Project Gutenberg* Cliff Robertson, actor* former US Senator Charles H. Percy* Eleanore Mondale, wife of Walter Mondale Dolores Hope, widow of Bob Hope* Anwar al-Awlaki, terrorist.* Linda Latham, "Energy Star" Don Lapre, marketing shyster, committed suicide as the Feds closed in on him* Steve Jobs, head of Apple Computers Al Davis, owner of the Oakland Raiders Football Team Dennis Ritchie, developer of the C language* Libyan dictator Moammar Qaddafi (Roast in Hell!) Elouise Cobell, treasurer of the Blackfeet Tribe, caught the federal government cheating on revenues to her tribe and won a lawsuit. Big!* Herbert Hauptman, mathematician* Robert A. Pritzker, industrial engineer and philanthropist* Matty Alou, baseball star* Andy Rooney, crusty commentator on 60 Minutes Norman Ramsey, physicist* George Frazier, former boxing heavyweight champion* Benjamin McCoy, baseball star* Jeno Paulucci, food entrepreneur (Jeno's, Michelina, Chun King)* Frederick Meijer, founder of the hypermarket concept in America (Meijer, a big regional chain based in Michigan)* Lynn Margulies, microbiologist Ann McCaffrey, SF writer Quote:No relation, but she was a near-neighbor at one time. She may be one of the last living Americans to remember Tsar Nicholas II as her ruler (but probably with no affection). Harry Morgan, superb actor. * RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-15-2016 Christopher Hitchens, writer. Kim Jong-il, North Korean monarch in all but name, tyrant, and serial mass-murderer. (Roast in Hell!) [/url](arguably his antithesis) Quote:[url=http://www.theguardian.com/world/vaclav-havel]Václav Havel, the dissident playwright who led the Czechoslovakian "velvet revolution" and was one of the fathers of the east European pro-democracy movement that led to the fall of the Berlin wall, has died aged 75. Reports quoted his assistant, Sabina Tančevová, as saying Havel died at his weekend house on Sunday morning, and the news was announced on Czech television during an interview with the current prime minister, Petr Necas. Necas called Havel "the symbol of 1989" and said he did "a tremendous job for this country". Havel's state funeral is likely to draw a crowd of leaders, artists and intellectuals from around the world. Havel was a renowned playwright and essayist who, after the crushing of the Prague spring in 1968, was drawn increasingly into the political struggle against the Czechoslovakian communist dictatorship, which he called Absurdistan. His involvement in the Charter 77 movement for freedom of speech won him admiration around the world. His commitment to non-violent resistance helped ensure the velvet revolution was bloodless. It also help ensured that the "velvet divorce" three years later, when the country split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia, was equally peaceful. Havel opposed the split and stepped down from his position as president in 1992, rather than oversee the process. However, he stood for the presidency of the Czech Republic early the following year and won. It was a non-executive position but Havel brought to it both moral authority and prestige on the world stage. He stayed in the position, despite bouts of ill health including lung cancer, until 2003. His role in the east European revolutions of 1989 was second only to Lech Walesa's in Poland. As the twin inspirations of the pro-democracy movement, they were strikingly contrasting figures: Walesa a flamboyant, brash, working-class union agitator; Havel a soft-spoken intellectual from a well-to-do family, who was a reluctant politician. He was one of a generation who came to political consciousness in the 1960s. Rock stars such as Frank Zappa were among his heroes and late in life he continued to sign his name with a small heart-shaped flourish. His motto was: "Truth and love must prevail over lies and hate." http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/18/vaclav-havel-dies Robert James Gilbert Anderson, English Olympic fencer -- showed Hollywood stars how to do convincing combat* Gordon Hirabayashi -- sociologist, involved in the USSC case Hirabayashi v. United States* Richard Threlkeld, CBS correspondent* Gustav Leonhardt, Dutch harpsichordist, period-performance pioneer* Cy Twombly, artist Sandor Feher, Hungarian violinist, hero of the Costa Concordia sinking -- rescued children* Etta James, singer child-killer whom I will not name this time* Joe Paterno, legendary Penn State football coach until disgraced* Paavo Berglund, Finnish conductor* Don Cornelius, emcee of Soul Train Dorothea Tanning, artist and writer* Angelo Dundee, trainer of Mohammed Ali Last known WWI veteran, Florence Green Whitney Houston, singer Gary Carter, Hall of Fame Catcher. * I remember seeing a Detroit Tiger game being broadcast from New York -- with the New York Mets. The Mets were honoring their retiring catcher Mike Piazza, and the greatest living catchers of the time were there except for Jorge Posada (with the Yankees, and obviously unavailable) . The Tigers then had Ivan Rodriguez, and he caught for the Tigers. Others in attendance were Johnny Bench, Gary Carter, Carlton Fisk, Bill Freehan, and Yogi Berra, If you believe in ghosts, then Roy Campanella was surely somehow in attendance. Since then Gary Carter and Yogi Berra have since left our world for that great Field of Dreams. -- moi. Harry C. McPherson, political wonk Jan Berenstain, part of the creation of the Berenstain Bears. Davy Jones, Monkee. Andrew Breitbart, hack journalist* Donald Payne, US Representative, (D,NJ-10) Ghiath Tayfour, Syrian boxing champion, likely murdered by gangsters (the Assad regime).* Frank Rowland, Nobel-Prize chemist, professor at UC-Irvine* John/Ivan Demjanjuk, traitor to humanity as a brutal guard at Nazi death camps. Gone to the Gulag that will never be abolished (Hell!)* Lisa Laster, sister of one of my favorite posters. Earl Scruggs, innovative banjo player* Adreienne Rich, feminist poet Miguel de la Madrid, former President of Mexico* Leila Denmark, pediatrician living to age 114*. Considering the profession, what could be more ironic than a pediatrician being the oldest person recognized in Wikipedia for reasons other than reaching an advanced age! Many of her infant patients have lived full, long lives. Quote:Leila Alice Denmark (née Daughtry; February 1, 1898 – April 1, 2012) was an American pediatrician. She was the world's oldest practicing pediatrician until her retirement in May 2001 at the age of 103. She was one of the rare supercentenarians renowned for reasons other than longevity; the only such person living to be 114. On December 10, 2011, at age 113 years 312 days, she became one of the 100 oldest people ever. At her death she was the 4th-oldest verified living person in the world and the 3rd-oldest verified living person in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leila_Denmark Ferdinand Porsche, designer of the Porsche 911* Thomas Kinkade, artist often derided for his marketing techniques* Mike Wallace. Last journalist many people wanted to see interviewing him. * Dick Clark. Rock music impresario. Charles Colson. Nixon trickster, got a conscience, got religion, and regained some credibility I said of him: Quote:Unlike the others who have ('found God' after doing horrible things), he has been consistent. He also scrupulously avoided partisan politics. He has been a conservative (why should I expect that to change?); it is not the conservative values but instead selfish ambition that led him astray. Ernest Callenbach, SF writer. Levon Helm. Moose Skowron, baseball star. Junior Seau, American football star George "Goober Pyle" Lindsey, comic actor* RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-15-2016 Bob Stuart, game-show creator Meow the cat, 39-pound house cat. That's animal abuse! Maurice Sendak, French illustrator Bruno Sassetti, jazz pianist* Donna Summer, disco singer. Probably the only disco singer who had any talent. Chuck Brown, pop singer Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, German singer of Lieder.* Albert Falco, captain of Jacques Cousteau's Calypso. (I consider Cousteau the greatest explorer of the 20th century). Robin Gibb (Bee Gees) Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, Libyan secret police officer connected to the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland (Roast in Hell!)* Paul Fussell, social critic* Klass Carl Faber, Dutch Nazi traitor and war criminal. (Roast in Hell!)* Vidal Sassoon, hair stylist and entrepreneur Ray Bradbury, SF author Frank Cady, TV grocer on three of CBS' old rural comedies* Richard Dawson, actor and game-show host Nolan Miller, clothing designer for Dynasty Elinor Ostrom, Nobel Prize winner in economics* Henry Hill, parasite. Aren't all gangsters parasites?* (Roast in Hell)! Roger Garaudy, Holocaust-denying crank* Rodney King, victim of police brutality 21 years earlier* LeRoy Neiman, painter largely of athletic scenes* Judy Friedberg , writer for Sesame Street. ...I once saw Sesame Street as one of the greatest TV series ever. It is definitely a kid's show, but it has enough clever writing that an adult who gets deputed to watch it with a child can relate to it. Writing a kid's show so that it has some adult appeal without compromising its educational utility is tricky in the extreme. I Love Lucy, Bonanza, The Andy Griffith Show, Taxi, and M*A*S*Hi, had no such problem. "Lonesome George", a giant tortoise* Somehow I missed "Socks", the Clinton family cat, in this list...but I doubt that I will find another reptile in this list. I have horses and dogs, too. So to give some semblance of equal time for reptiles: Quote:Chelonoidis nigra abingdoni, known as the Pinta Island tortoise, Pinta giant tortoise, Abingdon Island tortoise, or Abingdon Island giant tortoise, is a subspecies of Galápagos tortoise native to Ecuador's Pinta Island, believed to have become extinct in June 2012[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonesome_George#Lonesome_George][/url] Nora Ephron, writer Andy Griffith*, beloved sheriff of Nottingham -- just kidding. Mayberry, North Carolina. I consider him the epitome of the self-effacing comedian who defines the most memorable and longest-lasting cultural achievement of the Silent Generation. We used to take this for granted, but as these comedians disappear from stage and screen we get too full of ourselves. Sergio Pinnafarina*, auto designer (Ferrari) Ernest Borgnine*, actor Celeste Holm, actress* Steven Covey, writer of self-help guides 18 July 2012 Damascus bombing -- mostly gangsters* associated with the Assad crime syndicate in Syria Sally Ride, astronaut August Kowalczyk*, last survivor of an escape from Auschwitz Gore Vidal, writer Garrett Reid, American football player RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-15-2016 Marvin Hamlisch, film composer* Helen Gurley Brown, editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan magazine* Victor Poor, engineer -- essential to the Internet* Tony Scott, director Phyllis Diller, actress-comedienne Scott McKenzie, songwriter "If you're going to San Francisco" Stephen Van Buren-- NFL Hall of Fame* Neil Armstrong, first man on the Moon General Tomas Sedlacek -- Czechoslovak warrior of WWII, fought on both Eastern and Western fronts* Hal David, songwriter Sun Myung Moon, leader of the Unification Church* Michael Duncan Clark, actor Joe South, songwriter "Games People Play" John Christopher Stevens, American diplomat, killed in anti-American violence in Libya* Andy Williams, singer Chris Economaki, racing announcer* Bob Hobsbawm, English historian Barry Commoner, ecologist Arthur Sulzberger, publisher of the New York Times Antisa Khvichava, claimed to have lived 132 years (likely preposterous)*, unrecognized Alex Karras, American football star and actor* Jonathan Lewis, actor and suspected criminal former US Senator Arlen Spector* former US Senator and Democratic nominee for President in 1972, George McGovern Stan Ovshinsky, machinist, expert on amorphous materials Russell Means, American First Peoples activist Jacques Barzun, French intellectual historian* Gabrielle Roth, dancer Elliott Carter, American classical composer and centenarian* Lee McPhail, baseball executive, Hall of Fame* Ajmal Kasab, convicted terrorist in the Mumbai horror, executed* Jan Trefuka, Czech writer and dissident, signer of Charter '77* Larry Hagman, actor* Marvin Miller, former head of the baseball players' union* Joseph Edward Murray, physician, first to successfully do a kidney transplant* Dave Brubeck, jazz pianist Oscar Niemeyer, Brazilian architect, largely created its capital Brasilia Ravi Shankar, introduced the sitar to Western audiences Galina Vizhnevskaya, Russian opera singer* Norman Joseph Woodland, entrepreneur US Senator Daniel Inouye Judge Robert Bork, jurist* Jack Klugman, actor* Charles Durning, actor* General H. Norman Schwartzkopf, leader of the highly successful liberation of Kuwait Parri Page, pop singer* Gerda Lerner, historian Aaeon Reddit, co-founder of Reddit Conrad Bain, actor Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby" Earl Weaver, baseball manager; Stan "the Man" Musial, baseball great* Taihō Kōki, Ukrainian-born sumo wrestler* Sally Starr, Philadelphia kids' show hostess Quote:my comment on her -- Back when every TV station seemed to have its locally-produced, unique programming most had some local character on some clubhouse program introduce some cartoons and some interesting guests. Then came the lengthened time for washday weepers and vapid talk shows. When independent channels began to proliferate such programming did not re-appear, but those channels filled with reruns. Too bad. The kids are missing something. Patty Andrews, last of the Andrews Sisters* Ed Koch, former mayor of New York City Essie Mae Washington-Williams, long-hidden BLACK daughter of eventual US Senator Strom Thurmond* Paul Tanner, last surviving member of the Glenn Miller Orchestra* Frank Braun, American inventor of small appliances* George Aratani, founder of the Kenwood and Mikasa firms*. Wolfgang Sawallisch, German conductor*. Van Cliburn, concert pianist* Bonnie Franklin, actress* Marie-Claire Alain, French organist* Hugo Chávez, Venezuelan soldier, demagogue, and dictator* Ieng Sary, Khmer Rouge leader and criminal against humanity* (Roast in Hell!) Ewald-Heinrich von Kleist-Schmenzin, last surviving member of the July 20 Plot against Edgar Killen, KKK terrorist, owner of the plot on which three martyrs of the Civil Rights Movement were hidden* Ruth Prawer Jhabvala, German-born novelist* Roger Ebert, film critc Margaret Thatcher, former British Prime Minister* Mildred Daniel Manning, last surviving "Angel Nurse" at Bataan* Annette Funicello, child actress on the Mickey Mouse Club Jonathan Winters, comedian* Elizabeth Marie Tallchief, ballerina* Sir Colin Davis, British conductor* Carmel Kaine, Australian-born British violinist* János Starker, Hungarian cellist* former US Representative (D-PA) Robert Edgar* RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-15-2016 Margaret Groeing, inspiration for the cartoon character Marge Simpson Dr. Joyce Brothers, psychologist and columnist* Jorge Rafael Videla, brutal Argentine dictator* (Roast in Hell!) Ray Manzarek, keyboardist for the Doors Henri Dutilleux, French composer* Jean Stapleton, "Edith Bunker" Senator Frank Lautenberg, D-NJ, died in office* "Deacon" Jones, American football star* Esther Jane Williams -- turned swimming into an art form for the movies* "Night Stalker" Richard Ramirez, satanist and serial killer, now with his buddy in Hell*... One of the vilest people I have ever heard of. Kakiemon Sakaida, Japanese potter and designated a Living Treasure* Kenneth Geddes Wilson, theoretical physicist* Slim Whitman, country singer James Gandolfini, actor* Gary David Goldberg, scriptwriter and TV producer* Douglas Carl Engelbart, engineer and inventor* Douglas Dayton, founder of Target Stores* Lo Hsing Han, heroin kingpin active in Burma/Myanmar* (Roast in Hell!) Senji Yamaguchi, atomic-bomb survivor and peace advocate* Sabawi Ibrahim al-Tikriti, director of the Mukhabarat, the secret police of Saddam Hussein (Roast in Hell!) William H. Gray, clergyman turned US Representative Nadezhda Popova, Soviet pilot and one of the first military female pilots in the USSR Stephen Rakes, Boston businessman, suspicious death allegedly connected to fugitive Whitey Bulger* Helen Thomas, journalist Ossie Schechtman, who supposedly scored the first basket in the National Basketball Association* Arthur Donovan, American football star* Karen Black, actress Anatoly Yuriyovych Onoprienko, Ukrainian serial killer, 52 victims (Roast in Hell!)* David Frost, British journalist and TV star* Governor-General of Grenada Sir Paul Scoon, in office during the American invasion of Grenada* Rochus Misch, last survivor of Hitler's bunker* Cal Worthington, colorful car dealer in greater Los Angeles "This is my dog spot"... "Spot" of course was never a dog. Ray Dolby, sound engineer (Dolby Labs)* Frederik Pohl, SF author Eiji Toyoda, Japanese industrialist (Toyota)* Ken Norton, boxer* Hiroshi Yamauchi, Japanese industrialist (Nintendo)* Evelyn Lowery, wife of civil rights leader Dr, Joseph Lowery* Adalbert Brunke, German-born South African clergyman, supporter of Nelson Mandela* Tom Clancy, novelist Vo Nguyen Giap, North Vietnamese general, drove out the French from northern Vietnam and the US from southern Vietnam* Ruth Rogan Benento, inventor of wash-and-wear fabrics* Philip Chevron, guitarist Scott Carpenter, astronaut Erich Priebke, Nazi war criminals (Roast in Hell!)* Tom Foley, former Speaker of the US House of Representatives* "Bum" Phillips, American football coach* Jovanka Budisavljević Broz, former First Lady of Yugoslavia (wife of Josip Broz Tito)* Vladimir Keils-Borok, physicist involved in forecasting earthquakes* Lou Reed, singer Former US Representative Ike Skelton Manfred Rommel, German politician, son of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel* thousands, Hurricane Yolanda* John Kenneth Taverner, British composer* Paul Crouch, televangelist* Paul Walker, actor* Nelson Mandela, political dissident and political prisoner of racist South Africa who became President of the post-racist South Africa Peter O'Toole, actor Tom Laughlin, actor Joan Fontaine, actress Ray Price, country musician George Rodrigue, artist* Janet Dailey, romance novelist Larry Lujack, Chicago dee-jay Edgar Bronfman, businessman and entrepreneur* Mikhail Kalashnikov, inventor of the AK-47 (one of the best rifles ever made) George Jerome Waldo Goodman, a/k/a Adam Smith, author and economics broadcaster* Saul Zaentz, entertainment mogul* Alicia Rhett, actress, best known as "India Wilkes:" in Gone With the Wind* Phil Everley, one of the Everley Brothers Amiri Baraka, born as LeRoi Jones, poet Sir Run Run Shaw, Chinese movie mogul Russell Johnson, the Professor from Gilligan's Island Claudio Abbado, Italian conductor* Pete Seeger, folk singer Maximilian Schell, Austrian actor* Phillip Seymour Hoffman, actor Joan Mondale. Wife of Walter. Vasiľ Biľak. Czechoslovak traitor -- signed the letter asking for Soviet assistance through the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia* Ralph Kiner, baseball star and commentator* Shirley Temple, child star and diplomat RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-16-2016 Saul Zaentz, entertainment magnate* Alicia Rhett, "India Wilkes" in Gone With the Wind* Phil Everley, one of the Everley brothers Amiri Baraka, originally LeRoi Jones, poet Sir Run Run Shaw, Chinese movie magnate Russell Johnson, actor "the Professor" from Gilliigan's Island Claudio Abbado, Italian conductor* Pete Seeger, folk singer Maximilian Schell, Austrian actor* Phillip Seymour Hoffman, actor Vasiľ Biľak, Czechoslovak Commie, one of those who 'invited' an invasion by the Soviet Union* Ralph Kiner, baseball star and TV announcer* Shirley Temple, child star and diplomat Sid Caesar, comedian* Ralph Waite, actor John Henson, puppetteer (like his father) Bob Casale, guitarist Maria Agatha Franziska Gobertina von Trapp, matriarch of the musical von Trapp family Alice Herz-Sommer, then oldest-living survivor of the Holocaust. Pianist and music teacher.* Harold Ramis, actor Maurice Faure, French politician* Frank Jobe, physician, known for "Tommy John surgery" that extends pitching careers Autumn Radtke, Bitcoin figure William Clay Ford, football executive Porky Chedwick, Pittsburgh-area DJ, promoter of "race" music* former Florida governor Reuben Askew* Ray Still, oboist* Tony Benn, British politician* Fred Phelps, crusader against gay rights* Lawrence Walsh, prosecutor in Iran-Contra Arms scandal Robert Strauss, political operative and diplomat Adolfo Suárez González, first democratically-elected prime minister in post-Franco Spain Ralph Cookerly Wilson, last surviving owner of an AFL team* Gina Pellón, Cuban-born French artist Charles Humphrey Keating, Jr., convicted bank fraudster of the 1980s* Mickey Rooney, actor* Charles Sumner Jones, founder of the National Association of Black Journalists* Mar Emmanuel III Delly, Iraqi Christian clergyman during the US invasion of Iraq* Gabriel José de la Concordia García Márquez*, Colombian author Conrado Eugenio Marrero Ramos, Cuban baseball player Jesse Winchester, singer Al Feldstein (Mad Magazine) Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. actor* Bob Hoskins, actor Bill Dana (not the comedian) , test pilot* Wojciech Jaruzelski. Polish general, imposed martial law, gave way to democracy in Poland* Maya Angelou, poet* Oscar Dystel, founder of Pocket Books* Chester Nez, last of the original Navajo code talkers Tony Gwynn, baseball star Casey Kasem, rock music promoter* Stephanie Louise Kwolek, inventor of Kevlar* What's so important? It changes the nature of law enforcement. Bullet-proof vests make killing a cop and surviving the attempt much more difficult. l Eli Wallach, actor RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-16-2016 Saul Zaentz, entertainment magnate* Alicia Rhett, "India Wilkes" in Gone With the Wind* Phil Everley, one of the Everley brothers Amiri Baraka, originally LeRoi Jones, poet Sir Run Run Shaw, Chinese movie magnate Russell Johnson, actor "the Professor" from Gilliigan's Island Claudio Abbado, Italian conductor* Pete Seeger, folk singer Maximilian Schell, Austrian actor* Phillip Seymour Hoffman, actor Vasiľ Biľak, Czechoslovak Commie, one of those who 'invited' an invasion by the Soviet Union* Ralph Kiner, baseball star and TV announcer* Shirley Temple, child star and diplomat Sid Caesar, comedian* Ralph Waite, actor John Henson, puppetteer (like his father) Bob Casale, guitarist Maria Agatha Franziska Gobertina von Trapp, matriarch of the musical von Trapp family Alice Herz-Sommer, then oldest-living survivor of the Holocaust. Pianist and music teacher.* Harold Ramis, actor Maurice Faure, French politician* Frank Jobe, physician, known for "Tommy John surgery" that extends pitching careers Autumn Radtke, Bitcoin figure William Clay Ford, football executive Porky Chedwick, Pittsburgh-area DJ, promoter of "race" music* former Florida governor Reuben Askew* Ray Still, oboist* Tony Benn, British politician* Fred Phelps, crusader against gay rights* Lawrence Walsh, prosecutor in Iran-Contra Arms scandal Robert Strauss, political operative and diplomat Adolfo Suárez González, first democratically-elected prime minister in post-Franco Spain Ralph Cookerly Wilson, last surviving owner of an AFL team* Gina Pellón, Cuban-born French artist Charles Humphrey Keating, Jr., convicted bank fraudster of the 1980s* Mickey Rooney, actor* Charles Sumner Jones, founder of the National Association of Black Journalists* Mar Emmanuel III Delly, Iraqi Christian clergyman during the US invasion of Iraq* Gabriel José de la Concordia García Márquez*, Colombian author Conrado Eugenio Marrero Ramos, Cuban baseball player Jesse Winchester, singer Al Feldstein (Mad Magazine) Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. actor* Bob Hoskins, actor Bill Dana (not the comedian) , test pilot* Wojciech Jaruzelski. Polish general, imposed martial law, gave way to democracy in Poland* Maya Angelou, poet* Oscar Dystel, founder of Pocket Books* Chester Nez, last of the original Navajo code talkers Tony Gwynn, baseball star Casey Kasem, rock music promoter* Stephanie Louise Kwolek, inventor of Kevlar* What's so important? It changes the nature of law enforcement. Bullet-proof vests make killing a cop and surviving the attempt much more difficult. l Eli Wallach, actor* former US Senator and Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker* Ernie Ball, Welsh golfer, last living person to have competed in the Masters tournament* Richard Mellon Scaife, financial backer of the American Right* Tome Erdelyi aka Tommy Ramone Paul Horn, jazz flutist Lorin Maazel, conductor John Siegenthaler, journalist and assistant to Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy [/url] Quote:[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Seigenthaler]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Seigenthaler "During the Freedom Rides of 1961, Seigenthaler was sent in his capacity as assistant to Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights John Doar[10] to be chief negotiator for the government, in its attempts to work with Alabama Governor John Malcolm Patterson. After several days of refusing to return calls, Patterson finally agreed to protect the Riders, but their state trooper escort disappeared as soon as they arrived in Montgomery on May 20, 1961, leaving them unprotected before the waiting white mob.[11] Seigenthaler was a block away when he rushed to help Susan Wilbur,[12] a Freedom Rider who was being chased by the angry mob. Seigenthaler shoved her into his car and shouted "Get back! I'm with the Federal government"[13] but was hit behind the left ear with a pipe. Knocked unconscious, he was not picked up until police arrived 10 minutes later, with Montgomery Police Commissioner Lester B. Sullivan noting, "We have no intention of standing police guard for a bunch of troublemakers coming into our city." " He was featured in a recent PBS doc about the freedom riders. Joep Lange, AIDS expert, former President of the International AIDS Society* Elaine Stritch, actress James Garner, actor* Theodore VanKirk, last surviving member of the crew that dropped an atom bomb on Hiroshima* James Brady, Press Secretary crippled in assassination attempt on then-President Ronald Reagan* Robin Williams, comedian* Lauren Bacall, actress* Frans Bruggen, flutist and early-music pioneer* my mother, Parkinsonism victim* Don Pardo, radio and TV announcer* James Wright Foley, photojournalist lynched by ISIS* Emmaanuel G. Knarsis, Greek historical linguist and centenarian* Richard Attenborough, British actor and film director/producer* John G. Sperling, educational entrepreneur (University of Phoenix)* John Walker, traitor/spy* (Roast in Hell!) Steven J. Sotloff, American journalist, lynched and murdered by ISIS* Joan Rivers, comedienne* RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-16-2016 S. Truett Cathy, founder of Chick-fil-A food chain* Gerald Wilson, jazz musician* Polly Bergen, actress* Christopher Hogwood, early music performer* Jean-Claude Duvalier, Haitian dictator and kleptocrat, bled a very poor country for his indulgence before being overthrown* (Roast in Hell!) Elizabeth Pena, actress* one of Greece's Greatest Generation, Ioannis Charalambopoulos* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannis_Charalambopoulos Christophe de Margerie, French oil executive* Oscar de la Renta, Dominican-Republic born fashion designer* Stephan Hessel, advocate of the Arab Spring* Oscar Taveras, baseball player* Brittany Maynard, advocate of patient rights* Thomas Louis Magnozzi, NPR's Car Talk Big Hank, rapper John Doar, enforcer of civil rights* Alvin Dark, baseball star and manager* Jayne Byrne, former Chicago mayor Carl Sanders, former Governor of Georgia, led the state away from segregation* Mike Nichols, director* Roberto Gómez Bolaños, a/k/a Chespirito and televisiion executive, Mexican comedian* Viktor Tikhonov. Soviet/Russian hockey coach* Jean Beliveau, Canadian hockey player* Ralph Bear, inventor of Pong* Ken Weatherwax, actor Lydia Mordkovich, Russian violinist* Arthur Gardner, actor and film producer* Joe Cocker, musician* Louise Rainer, first person to win two Academy Awards (after fleeing Hitler)* Edward K. Hermann, actor* Mario Cuomo, former New York Governor Donna Douglas, actress "Beverly Hillbillies" former US Senator Edward Brooke* Stuart Scott, sports broadcaster victims of the terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo* Rod Taylor, actor* Anita Ekberg, Swedish actress Ervin Drake, songwriter* Tony Verna, inventor of instant replay* Ethel Lang, last living person born under Queen Victoria* former US Senator Wendell Ford* King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia Ernie Banks, "Mr. Cub", Hall of Fame baseball star* Edgar Froese, electronic musician Charles Hard Townes, physicist and educator* Rod McKuen, poet, singer, songwriter Colleen McCullough, Australian novelist Richard Karl Freiherr von Weizsäcker, former President of the German Federal Republic* Kenji Goto, Japanese photojournalist, lynched and murdered by ISIS* Charles Sifford, golfer -- first African-American to play in the PGA* Dean Smith, basketball coach William Casper, golfer* Lelsey Gore, singer Eugenie Clark, ichthyologist (sharks and poisonous fish)* Earl Francis Lloyd, first black NBA player* Leonard Nimoy, actor, "Spock" on Star Trek -- our favorite Vulcan* Boris Yefimovich Nemtsov -- Russian liberal politician* Michael Graves, architect* Terry Pritchett, fantasy writer Charles Bednarik, American football player* Lee Kwan Yew, first Prime Minister of Sngapore* Hans Erni, Swiss artist* oldest living person at the time Robert Schuller, TV preacher Elmer Lach, great hockey player* Sarah Brady, gun-control advocate* Lon Simmons, sports broadcasting voice in the San Francisco Bay Area Stan Freberg, multifaceted TV figure* Raul Castro, former Arizona Governor, not to be confused with Fidel's brother* Judith Malina, German-born American film and stage actress* Lauren Hill, college basketball player and cancer victim* Günter Grass, German author (The Tin Drum)* Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, Iraqi general and war criminal* (Roast in Hell!) Sawyer Sweeten, child actor* Sid Tepper, songwriter* Władysław Bartoszewski, Polish politician and survivor of the Polish Underground* Jayne Meadows, actress* Jane Nidetch, founder of Weight Watchers* Ben King, singer Maya Mikhaylovna Plisetskaya, Russian ballet dancer and administrator* Stuart Archer, British recipient of the George Cross for gallantry and heroism, only one not in military action (bomb disposal)* Jim Wright, former Speaker of the House* Elizabeth Wilson, stage actress, many awards* Liquori "Coco" Tate and Benjamin "BJ" Deen, police officers killed in duty in Hattiesburg, Mississippi Rutger Gunnarson, Swedish musician, ABBA* Abd al-Rahman Mustafa al-Qaduli, Deputy leader of the Infernal State, killed in airstrike. (Roast in Hell!) victims of a Philadelphia-area train crash B.B. King, jazz musician* Abu Sayyaf, ISIS oil minister. Kidnapper and rapist of an American female captive* (Roast in Hell!) Anne Meara, comedienne* Beau Biden, son of the US VP and promising politician* Betsy Palmer, actress Leonard Merullo, last living person to play in a World Series (1945!) involving a Chicago Cub* (The Cubs have a good chance this year) Tareiq Aziz, foreign minister of Iraq under Saddam Hussein* Vincent Bugliosi, prosecuting attorney in Los Angeles, wrote Helter Skelter about Tate-LaBianca murders* Christopher Lee, British actor Randolph Coleman, jazz saxophonist* Walter Weller, violinist and conductor* Kirk Kerkorian, entrepreneur* Ralph Richards, founder of Comcast* Gunther Schuller, wide-ranging musician* Dick Van Patten, actor* Joseph de Pasquale, violist* Yevgeny Maksimovich Primakov, Soviet and Russian diplomat, tried to broker a settlement in First Gulf War (Saddam Hussein was the cause of the failure)*. Chris Rock, rock bassist* Sir Nicholas George Winton, organizer of a rescue of Jewish children from Czechoslovakia just before WWII* Charlie Sanders, football star* James Horner, film composer Ken Stabler, quarterback* Omar Sharif, Egyptian-born international actor* Satoru Iwato, President of Nintendo* Lithang Tulku Tenzin Delek Rinpoche, Tibetan clergyman and political prisoner* Alan Curtis, hadpsichordist* George Coe, actor* Theodore Bikel, actor* E L Doctorow, novelist* Wayne Carson, songwriter Bobbi Brown, singer* Ivan Moravec, Czech pianist* Wolfgang Gönnenwein, German conductor and musicologist* James H. Allen, a/k/a "Rusty Nails", kid-show host in Portland, Oregon* George Robert Acworth Conquest, historian of Communist terror and mass murder* Lynn Anderson, country singer Juan Manuel Guillermo Contreras Sepúlveda, head of the brutal secret police of Pinochet's Chile, international terrorist. (Roast in Hell!) Quote: By coincidence I have a little Chilean wine -- I just drank a toast to this nasty man's death. Cheers! Quote:Last edited by pbrower2a; 08-10-2015 at 12:37 AM. Frank Gifford, American football star and sports announcer* Julian Bond, civil rights leader* Khaled al-Asaad, Syrian archaeologist, protector of antquities at Palmyra, executed for doing so by ISIS* Harry Volkman, one of the first celebrity weathermen Fadhil Ahmad al-Hayali, #2 man in ISIS, killed in air strike. (Roast in Hell!) Wang Dongxing, bodyguard of Mao Zedong and politician* Augusta Marie Chiwy, heroine of the Battle of the Bulge* Quote:Augusta Marie Chiwy (6 June 1921 – 23 August 2015) was a Belgian nurse who served as a volunteer during the siege of Bastogne. She worked with US Army doctor John "Jack" Prior and fellow Belgian nurse Renee Lemaire, treating injured soldiers during the Battle of the Bulge. Wayne Dwyer, self-help author Dean Jones, actor* Moses Malone, American basketball player* Wes Craven, filmmaker* Sir David Valentine Willcocks, British conductor and overall musician, heavily involved with choral music* Jackie Collins, author of books few people admit reading* Yogi Berra, baseball catcher and colorful character* Eric Arturo Delvalle Cohen-Henríquez, Panamanian politician ousted by Manuel Noriega and returned later* Grace Boggs, political activist John Berg, art director for Columbia Records* (noteworthy album covers) Maureen O'Hara, Irish actress* former US Senator and actor Fred Thompson Günter Schabowski, East German political figure, literally opened the Berlin Wall (if by mistake)* Ahmed Abdel Hadi Chalabi, Iraqi politician* George Barris, car customizer* Helmut Schmidt, former Chancellor of the German Federal Republic* Robert Craft, conductor* P.F. Sloan, singer-songwriter* Joseph Engelberger, physicist, engineer, and entrepreneur* Robots. Scott Wieland, singer Brian Rush, one of the best posters on the old T4T forum Douglas Tompkins, founder of The North Face and Esprit* Akiyuki Nosaka, Japanese polymath*. Kurt Masur, German conductor Ozell Sutton, Marine, civil rights advocate, and associate of Governor Winthrop Rockefeller in his reforms of Arkansas racial realities René Saorgin, French organist Meadowlark Lemon, basketball player (Harlem Globetrotters) Natalie Cole, singer Wayne Rogers, "Trapper John" on M*A*S*H * Gilbert Kaplan, entrepreneur and conductor, if of only one work (Mahler's Symphony #2, the fitting successor of Beethoven's Ninth)* Gisela Raquel Mota Ocampo. Mexican politician, assassinated on her inauguration day Vilmos Zsigmond, cinematographer* Pierre Boulez, conductor and composer* second-in-command of the Infernal State, killed in an airstrike (Roast in Hell!) David Bowie, rock musician last known survivor of the San Francisco Earthquake of 1906* Monte Irvin, baseballplayer* Alan Rickman, actor Dan Haggerty, actor (associated with bears) Quote:Bears and humans have much in common (similar diets, territoriality, ferocity, aggression, intelligence, capriciousness, cunning, upright gait, and occasionally size). Both species see in each other much of what they dislike about themselves.Glen Frey, singer/songwriter* Jimmy Bain, rock musician Abe Vigoda, actor* Paul Katner, Jefferson Airplane Aurèle Nicolet, Swiss flutist* Richard Taber, ecologist RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-16-2016 Bob Elliott, comedian Maurice White, singer-songwriter* Edgar Mitchell, astronaut* Antonin Scalia, US Supreme Court Justice* Denise "Vanity" Matthews. Raunchy singer associated with Prince. Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Egyptian-born diplomat Harper Lee, author (To Kill a Mockingbird) Umberto Eco, Italian writer John Caldwell, cartoonist (MAD Magazine)* Peter Mondavi, vintner* George Kennedy, actor* Nancy Davis Reagan, former First Lady Nikolaus Harnoncourt, conductor, pioneer of early music* Beatles producer George Martin Keith Emerson, rock keyboarder* Loyd Shapley, Nobel economist* Hillary Whitehall Putnam, philosopher* Rob Ford, Mayor of Toronto* Phife Dog, hip-hop musician Joe Garagiola, baseball star and media personality* Garry Shandling, comedian Earl Hamner, scriptwriter* Imre Pozsgay, Hungarian Communist who made possible the transition to democracy* Ken Howard, actor* Mother Mary Angelica, founder of Catholic cable TV Eternal World Television Network* Patty Duke, actress Gato Barbieri, jazz saxophonist Joseph Medicine Crow-High Bird* Quote:(A)ffectionately known as CrowJoe to friends, was a historian and author of the Crow Nation of Native Americans. His writings on Native American history and reservation culture are considered seminal works, but he is best known for his writings and lectures concerning the Battle of the Little Bighorn. During his lifetime he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the Bronze Star Medal and the Légion d'honneur. During World War II, he became the last war chief of the Crow Tribe, and was the last living Plains Indian war chief. He was a founding member of the Traditional Circle of Indian Elders & Youth.[/url] Zaha Hadid, architect Merle Haggard, country musician Sir David John Cameron MacKay, British engineer* Doris Roberts, actress* Marie Barone, actress Pastricio Aylwin, democratic successor to Chilean dictator Agosto Pinochet* Prince, singer Dayko, a Labrador retriever, rescuer of victims of the Ecuadorian earthquake. * J.J. Harper, Georgia KKK leader* Quote:Imperial Wizard of Georgia KKK dies after shootout with police Suicide by cop by one of America's leading fascists. What a stupid way to go... but what can one expect from the Klan? Former US Senator Conrad Burns* Harry Wu, Chinese dissident* Reverend Daniel Berrigan three more already recognized on new Forums. Project completed. RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - pbrower2a - 05-16-2016 Just in time, for the old T4T forums are gone. RE: Obituaries -- names from the old Forum - Dan '82 - 05-17-2016 I just want to see that it's really cool that you did this. |