Kill the Electoral College

[Eric the Green]

(01-02-2017, 04:51 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(01-02-2017, 03:46 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Guns are not a "right" that any sane person covets or values. Guns are a technological innovation that allows people to kill other people easily and with little effort. It is not a "right" like the others. It was an 18th century measure that met the needs of that time for a militia and a check on a slave rebellion, and in the days when guns were less efficient. We should restore the original meaning of the Second, and thus go back to the long-held interpretation that "gun rights" were for the purpose of arming a well-regulated militia, and thus allow a community like DC to ban certain weapons if it wants to.

But, it will be up to the people whether they remain brainwashed by right-wing propaganda, as they so easily are today, or return to a progressive agenda. It will have to be the peoples' choice to lay down their arms or not. An armed campaign to take away peoples' guns is a contradiction and won't work.

I've gone over all of that with you before, and read everything. No need to rehash it; my comments will not change your mind.

Again, you are proclaiming those who disagree with you as not sane.  This is not an argument but a vile stereotype.

Again, the right to own and carry weapons did not exist purely for militia duty.  There were no police forces at the time, so the People had to protect themselves.

And, yes, rehashing is futile.  You are immune to fact.

As are you, then.

I stand by my psychological judgement

I don't mean that as applied those who disagree with me politically as a matter of ideas, but those who value guns per se. Yes, it's insanity.

There's lots of things about this world that's insane, but we still hang on to them. Guns are certainly one of them. War is probably another.

I suppose you're right about lack of police. I think the UK invented them as we know them today in the 1820s. So they've been around a long time.