01-27-2017, 10:29 PM
(01-26-2017, 10:44 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(01-26-2017, 10:32 PM)David Horn Wrote:(01-26-2017, 01:24 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(01-26-2017, 10:37 AM)David Horn Wrote:(01-25-2017, 05:08 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: At least now you know why you can't have a civil conversation with the other side on the issue: your side can't stay civil when you see a statement you disagree with.
I think Tim's point is simple enough. It's impossible to argue a point when the basic underlying facts are in dispute.
It's not the underlying facts that are in dispute; it's the underlying philosophy.
No, you also dispute demonstrable facts, which makes a common discussion plane impossible.
I don't think you understand the difference between a "fact" and an assertion. Much of your discourse in this thread, and others, tends to be heavier on the latter than the former.
I try to avoid calling things 'facts' unless they are; I'm also not perfect. You also make your fair share of assertions. We're discussing subjects not fully defined, so is this surprising?
But the basis of this argument was Tim Taylor's difficulty discussing issues involving healthcare and treatment with Warren. Do you want to discuss that?
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.