03-01-2017, 05:11 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-01-2017, 05:14 AM by Eric the Green.)
(03-01-2017, 03:37 AM)Marypoza Wrote:(02-28-2017, 01:15 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(02-28-2017, 12:48 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: While the tread title gives the progressives a dilemma, it seems the Republicans have all sorts of problems too. My feeling is that when Obama put together his health care plan, the Republicans cared more about making Obama and his efforts look really bad than they did about providing health care. As a result, a lot of their base thinks a lot of ideas which might be necessary to decent health care must be repealed. Their base is ready to vote anyone out who doesn't agree.
Now, I agree Obamacare isn't perfect. It needs to be tuned. Hillary was right, though. You start with as is and tune it rather than starting from scratch. A good sized chunk of the Republican Base and the folks they elected won't be open to this.
It seems that the less ideological Republicans and the Democrats might have to work together.
Obama-care is essentially Romney-care 2.0.
Anyone on the Right or Left who cannot face this fact is in denial of reality.
I agree, make it better. Don't trash it.
-- this piss pos is standing in the way of true health reform. It needs to go
Unfortunately, if it goes, it will only be replaced by a private Republican system. Obamacare was a step in the right direction, and it could have been changed to make it better. Given America's mindset, single payer may be decades away, at least. Unless the voters wise up in the 2020s.
Or, I suppose, since Medicare was passed in the 1960s, perhaps single payer will come in the late 2040s Awakening, when Uranus the rebel planet returns to Virgo the sign of health, where it was in the sixties.
Real progress is rare in America, so it's wise not to expect too much, and to settle for what we can get.