Things Trump Is Doing Right

[Odin]

(05-11-2017, 11:31 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:

(05-11-2017, 07:14 AM)Odin Wrote:

(05-09-2017, 03:21 PM)Galen Wrote:

(05-09-2017, 06:35 AM)Odin Wrote:

(05-09-2017, 03:57 AM)Galen Wrote: The non-aggression principle does allow for self-defense since it is the initiation of force that is disallowed.  As usual you have failed to do even the most basic research.

Once again you missed the point since you think I was only talking about self-defense, I wasn't. There are a lot of situations where the initiation of force is necessary to stop a greater evil. Then again, IIRC you are one of those deranged Isolationists who think the US should have stayed out of WW2 and that Pearl Harbor was all FDR's fault, so I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

Considering the consequences of the embargo on Japan it is clear that Pearl Harbor was FDR's fault.  I learned about all of this in a class on World War II history in the eighties and The Rising Sun by John Toland touched on the subject.  His later book Infamy is devoted to just that subject.

I would have preferred that the US would have stayed out of the First World War which would most likely led to a more equitable peace and probably avoided World War II which was in many ways a continuation of World War I.  It is worth noting that without US entry into that war both sides would have had to sue for peace and neither could have impose anything like the terms of the Treaty of Versailles since they were simply running out of men to throw into the trenches.  It is also very likely that the German High Command would not felt compelled to send Lenin back to Russia and there might never have been a Soviet Union.

You might actually want to spend some time with actual history rather than the comic book version we all get from the public schools.

If Japan didn't want to be embargoed maybe it shouldn't have been engaging in an imperialistic war of conquest in China. So no, it is 100% not FDR's fault.

Galen portrays himself as a Libertarian but in reality he's a warmed over Coughlinian American Firster. That's why he loved and apparently still loves Trump. Nearly all of the warmed over Coughlinian American Firsters love Trump. He's their Lindburgh. But this time around, he won. We have no FDR. Ruminate on that. Fr. Coughlin's spawn got their guy in the WH. This sort of thing "trumps" party affiliations. It's a historical "bug" of immense proportions, the operating system is hung, the enemies are at the gate. The fate of The West hangs in the balance. Some may claim I am overly dramatic stating such. History will prove who is right and who is wrong.

We got supremely lucky with FDR. The party alignments of the time and the depth of the economic crisis meant that he was able to keep Southern conservatives on board for at least a while (thought at the price of throwing Southern blacks under the bus), and that meant all the difference.