Religion, Secularism and Homosexuality

[radind]

(06-13-2016, 01:17 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-13-2016, 01:05 PM)radind Wrote:

(06-13-2016, 12:59 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-13-2016, 12:36 PM)radind Wrote:

(06-13-2016, 01:50 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The fact is that we read those 14 points during the Bush-Cheney administration, and many of us thought then that we were on the verge of fascism because so many of them applied to the USA. And especially the last point, which put Bush in office.

Beware of preparing to fight the last war. In my opinion the majority worldview in the US is now some form of secularism and Christianity is now  a minority religion.  I don't see fascism in the USA, but I am am concerned about a tyranny of the majority ( the secularist majority).

And I am more concerned about the Christian majority. It is they and not secularists who threaten freedom of religion.

Again, I just seem to have a keen grasp of the obvious. It is my only virtue, perhaps. And it's also obvious (as demonstrated here) how many people cannot grasp the obvious.

This is where we have a different perception about the current situation. In my opinion, Christianity is now in the minority and not a threat . The secularist are the real majority and a potential threat. The secularists can practice their dogma in same manner as religions.

And that is where I explained to you before. Don't conceive a threat where none exists. Others have different worldviews than your own, which permit behavior that you oppose. That is not a threat, nor does it mean they are imposing their religion on you. Get used to it. Gays exist and they have monogamous relationships. They always have and always will. Get over your revulsion against people who are different. Revulsion against people who are different caused a massacre in which 50 people died this week. 

Truly, it's time to question worldviews that put people down. Where is the threat? Obviously, worldviews that brand people who are different as wrong, is a threat to everyone. It could directly result in your death, thanks also to our lax gun laws. I wonder how you can continue to hold on to your dislike or disapproval of people who are different, in the face of the obvious deadly results of that sort of view.

Respect gays, and uphold their rights!

I respect all people who are created in the image of God.  So I reject your term of 'dislike'. There are some behaviors that I consider contrary to what I understand Christianity to be. 
I fully realize that those with a Biblical worldview are clearly now in the minority. I do have to accept the fact that the secular majority will do whatever they choose.( I do not have to approve).
The massacre should be condemned by all. 
It is the secular majority in general that I am concerned about( not the gays). It appears to me that the secularists operate with religious zeal and I do not expect religious liberty to survive for the Christian minority.

It appears that neither us is likely to change their views of the world.