Religion, Secularism and Homosexuality

[Eric the Green]

(06-13-2016, 08:16 PM)radind Wrote:

(06-13-2016, 07:35 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-13-2016, 07:29 PM)radind Wrote:

(06-13-2016, 01:22 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Secularism = the constitution. Freedom of religion. Equal rights to all regardless of religion or lack thereof.

"Biblical" Christian world view = misinterpretation of the Bible. Put downs of people of other religions, saying Christ is "the way." Restrictions on people who violate the norms of the Bible, AS interpreted only by the mis-labelled "Biblical" Christians. Support for worldviews that foster hate and murder.

In spite of your assertions, the USA is now primarily secular. What I claim as my worldview, you put down to misinterpretation of the Bible. I clearly disagree with you , but have the right ( so far) to my interpretation. My worldview does not foster hate and murder.
It take a few more years to see which of us is proved to be correct, based on actual outcomes.
We remain at stalemate

I have already proved the falsehood of your world view. You are unable to defend it.

Do you support full rights for gays/LGBT people, or not?

Do you deny that the shooter did not?

You can make all the assertions you want. I will stand behind my worldview and I expect you to stand behind yours. 

Your worldview may work fine for you, but for the less stable, it conditions hate and murder. You stand behind your worldview, but you have no valid or rational defense for it.

Quote:I do not think that the behavior of gays/LGBT is condoned by the Bible. I also don't agree with killing unborn babies.

You don't support gay rights. That attitude conditions homophobia and assaults on gays among some people. The Bible is not the constitution. Fetuses are not necessarily babies. Christians don't get to repeal the constitution, or to interpret it. That's up to the congress and the courts.

Quote:So, on the political front I will try to vote for those who are more in line with Christian views. In the future, I may not have anyone to vote for. 

Liberals also vote for those who are more in line with Christian views. Just not your version of Christian.

Quote:The shooter had no respect for people and committed an evil act. It does appear that this may have been an Islamic terrorists attack. 

Not, it does NOT so appear. At most the shooter was influenced by what he read and how he was brought up.

Respect gay people. 

Quote:It is one thing to not approve of certain behavior, and it is quite another to hate or murder other people. In my view of Christianity , there is no room for hate, much less for murder.

Quote:Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. ( 1 John 3:15, ESV)

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You say you don't hate gay people, but you don't want them to have the same rights as others. You are repelled by their behavior simply because it's different from yours. The shooter was also repelled by their behavior. As if kissing someone is wrong.