Debate about Gun Control

[Classic-Xer]

(07-11-2016, 09:39 AM)playwrite Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 02:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 02:27 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(07-10-2016, 01:49 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-09-2016, 11:52 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: As a liberal, I can say that about the Hard Right, which I often see as slick narcissists if not sociopaths with insatiable appetites for gain and indulgence but no respect for people other than themselves. Much of what they say insults me.

Hint: The ones you rely on are the ones who are more likely to screw you. You don't have to worry about me screwing you. I'm all good as far as money and property are concerned. Hint: We didn't take your jobs. The Democrats basically gave them to the world. You need to think about all the happy Mexicans and Chinese that were created with your parties sacrifice. I mean, come on, how do liberal frat boys really have in common with the working class. Really, I do feel sorry for those folks and wish they had good politicians who cared more about them and less about supporting them enough to keep themselves in office. I understand that the bulk of your base is pretty clueless and uncaring as far as the going on in the world. I understand the liberal educated get the bulk of their information networks that cater to them. Its so funny to see how they react when they when they're challenged by someone who has a bit more brain than they're accustomed too. BTW, they don't seem to care about the working class as much as they're concerned about the poor.

It seems like life experience has exposed you two to divergent sorts of folk?  If so, your assumptions of how humans and members of various cultures behave are incompatible?  I'm also seeing some vile stereotypes?  Those with different values are presumed to be vile in one way or another?

I tend to trust more what people say positively about their own culture, and be dubious about attempts to slander folks they disagree with.  If this goes on focusing on slandering the other guy, I'd not trust much of it.

Still, it shows how and why we get divided.  All one has to do is nurse grudges and think the worst about those who think differently and we end up where we are.

Bob, I don't have issues with your so-called values. I'm sure that we have similar values. I have issues with your politicians and whether or not they truly represent certain values or if they're just using values to get ahead.  I have at least three sets of values. I represent American values (classical liberal values). I have moral values. I have personal values. I get the impression that you have one set of values and that's it. I get the impression that progressive values are it as far as your values go. Although, when I press you a bit, I learn you have values we do commonly share. Values that are at odds with the progressive values that you stand for. In short, I don't like your politicians. I don't like the bulk of your base. I don't like the people your party attracts. PB is pathetic. Eric is a self centered leach. Odin is an issue waiting to happen. Hilary Clinton is Hilary Clinton. Kerry is a weasel. Al Sharpton is worthless piece of shit. Liberal today ain't what means and you're tied it. White American and portions of black America, brown America, yellow America, gay America, female America have had with your people. A large enough group to cut ties, remove the Constitution and the flag and reestablish and move on. You'll have a choice to make when this begins to happen during the 4t.

The choice is to continue to make low-informational voters like yourself less and less politically relevant.

You will still be allowed to yell at kids to get off your lawn if you decide not to take our offer to send you to Greenland all expenses paid.

This low informational voter has been kicking your ass for years. Like I said, the choice will be to extend you a hand or watch you go down. I'm not concerned about the true Americans. The true Americans as a group of individuals will find ways to make do and provide for each other and their families like they always have throughout our history. I feel bad for you in a way. I always feel bad for idiots who find themselves up to their eyeballs in debt, trouble, mistakes, ect. If the so-call zombie apocalypse claims you for all the years of stupidity and reliance on someone other than one self, I will feel bad but not overly sympathetic to the emotional pain and hardship that you'll be experiencing.