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Religion, Secularism and Homosexuality
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(07-09-2017, 11:17 AM)Cynic Hero Wrote:
(07-07-2017, 12:20 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Sexual topics are still a big deal for many Republican (now called "red") conservatives. Homosexuality is gaining more acceptance, but not among some conservatives, who still hate or just oppose what is unusual in society or conflicts with their religious beliefs. Abortion is still the biggest deal, and younger folks are more apt to be anti-abortion than anti-homo. Personally, although this is one of the most divisive issues in America, I think it can be compromised if people on both sides are willing. Right now, they aren't willing.

I am not a woman, so of course I will never be able to speak for the women's movement. But I think abortion could be more severely restricted even in blue states, and thus "pro-life" for fetuses could be acceptable, if the abortion pill and other contraceptives could be made widely available. This "compromise" would require that a fetus not be seen as an "unborn baby" right from the moment of conception on, so that it could be seen as one early on, as pro-lifers want. It would require tax support for Planned Parenthood, and probably making the abortion pill over the counter, even if abortion treatments by doctors are restricted to saving the mother's life, or only for a fetus a few weeks old or even less. I don't know if it's possible, but this is a tech fix for a polarizing issue.

Another fix might await more acceptance and progress for the New Age Movement and research into life before birth. Is there a soul? When does it enter the fetus? Does this vary? One day we may have clearer answers to these questions, even if not totally sense-based empirical ones, but through hypnosis and mediumship and life after death research. Then we could go by experience and information about the other side and the soul, and not just on beliefs dispensed by the Church, in deciding the abortion question. And such information would not only mean we'd know when we are actually "killing babies," but we might be less concerned if we know that we are souls and not bodies, and if a fetus is taken away from a soul, it can enter again in another one.

I know that today big and irreversible advances are being made in artificial intelligence (AI) and other tech fixes. I hope again that one day, like during the recent 2T Awakening, that progress in human potential (Human Intelligence) and spiritual knowledge might again be pursued as well.

Just food for thought. These changes won't come in time to resolve this Fourth Turning, but if some awareness of these possibilities existed, perhaps the noise volume and the potential violence surrounding this issue might be less.

If you think the 4T would be about culture wars issues and you also think that religion and abortion issues would continue into the next saeculum; what culture wars issue is the current 4T about in your opinion?

Abortion seems the most divisive cultural issue in this time, which is why I was discussing it.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: Religion, Secularism and Homosexuality - by Eric the Green - 07-10-2017, 06:45 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-13-2016, 01:05 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-13-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-13-2016, 07:45 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-13-2016, 08:16 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-14-2016, 02:51 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-14-2016, 04:02 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 05:39 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 05:58 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 06:00 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 06:03 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 10:09 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-14-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by pbrower2a - 06-14-2016, 07:57 PM
Religion and Homosexuality - by Eric the Green - 06-14-2016, 12:16 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 03:23 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 03:55 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 04:21 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 04:48 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 04:55 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 04:58 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 05:20 PM
RE: Debate about the Vietnam War - by radind - 06-14-2016, 10:36 PM
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