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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(02-13-2019, 12:03 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(02-11-2019, 11:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I'm a sharp tool and I'm colored blue, and no I don't quite understand what you think I am doing. But I know you referred to white male civil rights, which shows your priorities are based on race and gender. Blues like me, we are interested in rights for everyone. Well, except maybe your right to own a gun; that depends.....
I referred to civil rights that equally pertain to white people in general  and males in general (all males). Like I said, I'm not deaf and  blind or unable to read and decipher and so on. I have some issues with writing and typing related to lack of doing regularly but that's about it. So, what are blues doing promoting/supporting/advancing/accepting the views of racist or bigoted people? You do understand that's what you're/blues are doing right. So, what's your issue with white people and white males in particular. I'm not directly related to an old  slave owner or a person who fought for the Confederacy or a person who fought against integration. Yes, you're a sharper tool affiliated with a shed of tools that are mostly dull or one of the smartest people in a room full of idiots or one of the more clever people in a market full of clueless and naive people. Are you really as good as you claim?

You ignore the militia clause in the Second Amendment. At the time of the American Revolution people typically used their flintlock muskets as the weapons with which they would be most comfortable with as tools or warfare. They did not bend plowshares into swords. It is only after weapons specialized for military use came into existence, as around the American Civil War, that soldiers trained to use government-issued firearms. Such objects as artillery had no obvious use in civilian life -- and using those required training and discipline. From the American Civil War on, the weapons that have killed the most people in warfare  (I am not counting genocide, which is better described as organized crime than as warfare, and much of it is done with 'small arms', including machetes that have legitimate agricultural use as in 'cutting down the tall trees' in Rwanda) are artillery. Do you want or need a Katyusha rocket launcher which decimated German soldiers on the Eastern Front? Maybe if I have a war museum I might want one...

I cannot interpret "a well-regulated militia being necessary for the defense of a free State" to imply that such persons as idiots, lunatics, criminals, addicts, and habitual drunks have any right to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment does not have a non-discrimination clause as do some other Amendments, but if it did it would have such language as a prohibition of federal or state law discriminating against people on such matters as race, color, national origin, gender, partisan affiliation, physical handicap, age above minority or the mercifully-obsolete 'previous condition of servitude' in keeping and bearing arms. Handicapped and elderly people who would never be recruited any militia into probably would never be denied the right to bear arms.

Children, criminals, lunatics, addicts, idiots, and habitual drunks might be reasonably denied any right to bear arms. Were I a judge and had the authority I would deny a firearm to someone involved in an abusive relationship (the person being abused is easily overpowered for the weapon). The classes denied the right to bear arms still have most other enumerated freedoms, including the right to free speech.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by pbrower2a - 02-13-2019, 02:34 PM

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