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The Fourth Turning Halftime Update
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(09-29-2018, 05:42 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
Eric the Green Wrote:Help from the Fascist powers were crucial in Franco's victory in Spain over the liberal revolution there in 1936.

That wasn't a liberal revolution like 1776 but a communist revolution. Both sides were rotten.

There is a lot of similarities between the Spanish and Syrian civil war:
Communists = Assad (both were "lawful governments" before the war)
Franco = ISIS, al-Qaeda (reactionary pseudo-rebels)
Nazi intervention = Russian intervention

Well, not exactly. They were republicans who wanted to establish one. They were democratic. They got Soviet support also, that's very true. It was a rehearsal for world war two. Same alliances. Different outcome.

I don't see much similarity to Syria. Many people believe nonsense about Syria. You make the same mistake, forgetting that the civil war in Syria started as a HUGE movement of the people rising up for freedom against a dictator; an Arab Spring uprising, part of a worldwide uprising that also included Occupy Wall Street. Franco was in power originally iirc. He had just seized it, whereas Assad family has been in power for decades. So Franco was Assad. The liberal republicans in Spain = the freedom rebels in Syria. The jihadist groups came in later to support the rebels. They were NOT ISIS. But that would be analogous to the communists. You got the last one right: Nazi intervention = Russian intervention, holding up the dictator Assad = Franco, who won the war.

Same abdication of responsibility and appeasment by The Western powers, who didn't support the freedom rebels in Syria, just as they failed to support them in Spain. Result: Nazi/Russian advance against The West. World war two. War in Dec./Jan. 2020-21 looms! The Spanish did get volunteer help from The West, unlike the Syrians. But the Syrians got some help from the Gulf Arab states and Turkey, and some too little, too late financial help and training from The West.

The Islamic State (I don't usually call it ISIS because they extend beyond Iraq and Syria) had no analogy in the Spanish civil war. They swooped in like vultures 3 years after the uprising began to seize territory in the east of Syria while Assad was too busy putting down the rebels to oppose them.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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The Fourth Turning Halftime Update - by sbarrera - 07-28-2018, 10:34 AM
RE: The Fourth Turning Halftime Update - by tg63 - 09-28-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: The Fourth Turning Halftime Update - by Eric the Green - 09-29-2018, 12:20 PM

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