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First Turning "purge"
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(10-11-2018, 11:50 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(10-11-2018, 06:29 AM)sbarrera Wrote: In the United States there could be two purges, a Red one and a Blue one, the final result of which will be two different regional legal  zones - one for each side of the Culture Wars. This amount to each side "winning" the Culture Wars, and instituting its own new civic order. The  two regions could even still be united in one federation - there needn't be a Constitutional reform per se.

We're already there.  I'm not sure that it's a stable state, but we definitely have a Red America and a Blue one.  In fact, the fault lines are getting firmer, with the clustering of like minded people on both sides.  I know I won't see that through to its finish.  This seems more suited to the next saeculum than this one.

It won't be stable. "Blue" America will need food, water, and energy from "Red" America, and "Red" America will go nuts without entertainment and enlightenment from "Blue" America. Talented people will flock to America's "Blue" cities from "Red" America, even if the trip is less than fifty miles to so "Blue" a city as Austin, Texas, just for the opportunity to use their education for above-average pay. Urban sophisticates will go to "Blue" America to camp, hike, and even hunt and fish because "Red" America has yet to be urbanized. "Pave paradise, put up a parking lot" describes San Francisco very well.

What will disappear is any trace of whatever anything that one connects to the bad traits of the last 3T that created the Crisis Era.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-10-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-10-2018, 07:17 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-10-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Theojm - 10-10-2018, 09:47 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-10-2018, 10:26 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-10-2018, 10:12 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-10-2018, 06:20 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by sbarrera - 10-11-2018, 06:29 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-11-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-11-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Theojm - 10-11-2018, 07:01 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-11-2018, 11:53 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Hintergrund - 11-14-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-22-2018, 07:22 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Ragnarök_62 - 10-22-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-22-2018, 05:35 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-23-2018, 05:48 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 12:24 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-25-2018, 01:33 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 05:22 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-25-2018, 06:14 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 06:25 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 09:26 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-26-2018, 12:17 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-26-2018, 12:04 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-27-2018, 01:50 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Marypoza - 11-14-2018, 12:46 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Ragnarök_62 - 11-14-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Marypoza - 11-14-2018, 09:51 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-25-2018, 01:19 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 03:57 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-25-2018, 10:19 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 10:29 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 07:31 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Marypoza - 11-14-2018, 10:34 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-26-2018, 12:02 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-27-2018, 08:12 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-27-2018, 09:44 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-27-2018, 08:17 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-27-2018, 12:49 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-28-2018, 06:40 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-28-2018, 04:36 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-29-2018, 06:21 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-29-2018, 06:34 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-30-2018, 01:01 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-30-2018, 08:58 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-29-2018, 06:59 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-30-2018, 05:43 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Hintergrund - 11-14-2018, 10:25 AM

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