Still-powerful Silents

[Eric the Green]

(02-21-2019, 12:19 AM)Marypoza Wrote:

(02-20-2019, 10:05 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-20-2019, 03:48 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(02-19-2019, 04:38 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-18-2019, 07:42 PM)Marypoza Wrote: - Bernie would of made it in 2016 if he hadn't been cheated. Will they screw him over in 2020 as well? Maybe Uncle Joe. The DNC will probably feel they owe it 2 him

No, Bernie wasn't cheated. He lost. The DNC doesn't have the power to shift a 15% voting gap.

I have to agree with Maryposa.  Sanders was running high hurdles while Hillary had the sprint lane.  She also had the super-delegates, which was an impossible burden to overcome.  Bernie's chief fault was not working the party apparatus for support.  Hillary got most of the power-Dems by default.  Then again, the party had decided on Hillary, since BHO had pushed her aside in 2008.  It would have taken a miracle for anyone to overcome that, and Bernie, as Democratic Socialist, was an unlikely miracle worker.

I don't think the fact that the powers in the party were behind Hillary caused the 15% voting gap. The party and the super delegates do not choose the nominee; the voters do. The superdelegates go along with whoever wins the primary votes, as they did in 2008. 

-- yeah right. Like the superds who refused 2 back Bernie after he won their states. Such as Al "my judgement is better than yours" Franken. That from a dude whose signature routine is a hare krishna devotee getting his ponytail cut off

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-IKC5Be3fuM

I am warming up to Bernie as my favorite for the nomination. After all, he lays out the issues that we need to address better than anyone, and he stands for principles and acts on them. He's a straight-up honest guy who doesn't rely on big money, and he can inspire people. He seems so far vital enough to defy his age and get support of youth. 

He will need to stick to his principles and at the same time somehow assure people that he is pro-American and respects the proper place of business in American life, and be able to counter-act the socialist label that Trump will fasten to him. Trump will throw labels, and Bernie will emphasize real policy proposals and real needs that people have. It will be up to the people to do the right thing in enough numbers to counteract the rigged nature of the general election. He will also need to join the Democratic Party and get the backing of all the Democrats, just the way Trump now has all the Republicans behind him, in order to accomplish his goals.

If he is nominated and chooses Tulsi as his running mate, however, I will think twice about voting for him in November. Tulsi is a liar and a phony nationalist who is not really anti-war.

Bernie has a chance, but I hope McAuliffe runs too, because he has the best chance of beating Trump of anyone likely to run. He'd be a good running mate too that would lock up a state Bernie needs. It would make sure to take McAuliffe off the Clinton rails and onto the Bernie train, and be someone who can follow old Bernie in 2024. The more people run who actually can win, the better. So far, the applicants for the job of presidential candidate do not measure up. I don't know if McAuliffe will accept a veep role; he likes to be the one in charge.

Bernie can be the still-powerful Silent, and the still powerful native of the Uranus-Neptune trine.