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COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T
(04-28-2020, 11:07 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:
(04-28-2020, 08:21 AM)Isoko Wrote: It is becoming clear to me then ever that the people themselves do not really want change. Sure, they vote for Trump, Brexit and other populist uprisings in protest but when it comes to building a better tomorrow, they simply do not have an interest in doing so. Nature, beauty, true diversity, all is shoved under the bus to make way for me, me, me.

I disagree.  The populists do want change:  they want to share in the fruits of success that had been going entirely to the elites since the early 1970s.

The issue is that the elites don't want to give up their privileged position.  The elites don't want change, since that would mean they might not stay on top.  They may want to extract the last drop of blood from the workers, but they're not going to risk change to do that.

Since the elites have control of the press and the bureaucracy, they can force a stalemate, at least until the populists get so fed out violence breaks out.

I'm in agreement with Warren for a change, but can't see how backing a sleazeball rich guy gets anyone closer to equity.  Moving that way requires prying the power and control of the wealth production out of exclusive hands, and that requires the power to make it happen.  Dismantling government is the exact opposite of the that. You can't win by standing in the street and yelling. The PTB don't care.  Government is the only possible counterbalance.  


Look at history.  The Gilded Age happened at the point that government was both weak and bought. When FDR changed the rules, the balance improved. It never got to even, though.  Once capital got a slight advantage, things went downhill fast.  The arrival of the Boomer human wave made labor weak, and thank the Saudis for the rest.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Drakus79 - 03-22-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Ldr - 03-22-2020, 03:10 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Ldr - 03-24-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Ghost - 03-24-2020, 04:39 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Ldr - 03-24-2020, 03:05 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-05-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-06-2020, 03:52 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-06-2020, 11:42 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-06-2020, 01:03 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Ghost - 04-07-2020, 05:56 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-07-2020, 04:33 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-09-2020, 06:24 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-07-2020, 04:46 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Ghost - 04-12-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-13-2020, 05:41 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-13-2020, 10:38 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-14-2020, 05:53 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-14-2020, 12:11 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-15-2020, 03:58 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-15-2020, 04:48 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-15-2020, 09:05 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-16-2020, 11:00 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-23-2020, 05:14 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-23-2020, 07:26 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-24-2020, 01:28 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-24-2020, 03:39 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-24-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-25-2020, 11:09 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-25-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-25-2020, 03:02 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Camz - 04-26-2020, 03:47 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-28-2020, 08:21 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by David Horn - 04-28-2020, 12:35 PM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-28-2020, 10:58 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-28-2020, 11:13 AM
RE: COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T - by Isoko - 04-28-2020, 01:10 PM

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