06-26-2020, 04:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-26-2020, 04:46 PM by Eric the Green.)
(06-25-2020, 10:47 PM)Mickey123 Wrote: The old rules no longer apply.
Donald Trump was never supposed to be elected. There's a general understanding amongst both sides and the powers that be in the U.S. that only proper mainstream candidates are allowed to be elected. The left was shocked to see that the pact had been broken and that Donald Trump, who utterly fails to follow the rules for politicians, had been elected.
The American media, which is almost all left wing, decided they'd had enough, and abandoned their traditional objectivity. They'd always had a left wing slant, but there was at least the appearance of objectivity, and this is now gone. The media openly and blatantly oppose the president, and churn out non stop anti-Donald Trump articles and stories all day every day.
Traditional liberals are mostly unaware of this, as they can't stand Trump and so are under the illusion that the media is being objective. But conservatives are well aware of what's happened, and they too have had enough of this. The right now feels that the game is rigged against them, that the media is no longer playing its proper role in society and so conservative views can't be heard. Any group which feels they can't succeed playing by the rules will seek to flip the board over and make new rules.
Trump is quite good at reading the mood of the right, and knowing what he can get away with. If he loses the election, I think there is a very strong chance that he refuses to leave office.
Using any real or imagined justification, he claims the election wasn't fair, and that he isn't leaving. The left's initial reaction will be to laugh, awaiting the hilarious moment when the sad old man is dragged out and tossed in a car. But the next thing they realize, there will be a million right wingers flooding into Washington D.C., heavily armed and intent on protecting the president.
What happens next depends on what kind of support Trump can muster. If he can get the police or secret service on his side, he can suspend congress and have his political opponents arrested. If he can get the military on his side, he seizes control of the country. Half the states revolt and refuse to follow the federal government, and the military moves to suppress them and force them back into compliance. We have a civil war.
If Trump can't muster up military support, he attempts to at least hold control of D.C., with democratic congressmen in jail and whichever Supreme Court justices are willing to support him rubber stamping whatever he does.
How all this ends, I can't predict. But we're really and truly in a Crisis now, and the old rules no longer apply. I don't think Trump will go quietly.
The media is not left wing, it is centrist. News media are still owned by corporations, not by the people. Mostly, they just report the facts from AP and Reuters, and mix in quite a bit of sensationalism to add ratings.
If the stories about Trump are negative every day, it's because everything he does IS negative every day. The media does not invent what he does; it just reports it. No one who is objective would report Trump's misdeeds and paint them as virtuous.
The only side that is rigging the game is the conservatives. They suppress voting rights and take people off the rolls that shouldn't be taken off, and they control the senate and the electoral college which were instituted in order to maintain slavery. The right wing has control of most of the courts now, and they have had control of the congress and the presidency for almost all of the last 40 years. The USA has been stagnating or regressing for 40 years since Reaganomics took over and made itself the prevailing philosophy of the state. That is what needs to be turned over. ENOUGH already! Topple Reaganomics!
Boy, those 40 years have gone by super-fast! When absolutely nothing happens in your country, it's like time stands still. I maintain the 21st century was stillborn on Dec.12, 2000, and so therefore all of us born before 1980 can take 20 years off our age. It was like only yesterday that I started posting on this forum, and that was 23 years ago!
There is 100% chance that Trump will call the election rigged if he loses, and try to resist leaving. The justification will only be imagined, and will be only in HIS mind, because the only rigging will have been done by HIS side. The Left will NOT laugh; we are expecting this. Even Biden has said so.
Trump may try to get the police, the secret service and the military on his side, and call out his armed goons to defend his control of DC. But the Left has more than shown that they can match and far outnumber the right. That was demonstrated on his first days in office. The army has apparently declared that it will not stand by Trump if he loses the election. His Defense Dept Secretary and his Joint Chiefs Chair have said they will not turn the military on the people. Trump may not even be able to count on Chief Justice Roberts to rule in his favor if he sues over the election.
Trump will not go quietly, and there will be turmoil and probably riots; but so far at least, it looks like he will lose the election, and that he won't be able to force his way. But, we will see. I'm not calling the election for sure.