We're WEIRD. Get over it.

[David Horn]

(09-24-2020, 02:07 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(09-23-2020, 06:14 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 12:27 PM)David Horn Wrote: Caution is in order though.  Rarely is anything or anyone all this or that.  For example, some members of the Red culture are quite urbane and well read, but have an emotional link to conservative thought patterns. Here in the South, that may be due to upbringing, and tempered but not totally overcome by life experience.  I can think of any number of examples within my social sphere.  Others are more as you described them.  The latter group is locked into that thinking; the former is more open to suasion of one form or another.

Ii think a lot of it is due to individual personality.  People interested in ideas have to be open. People only open to experiences can be less so.  People not open to either are locked into their respective mindsets, and more or less impervious to outside forces.

WEIRD theory only has two archetypes: WIERD and tribal.  They would have much the same feel, more true in the general aggregate than as to apply to individuals, but it helps one understand the difference between the two cultures.  While I generally reserve turning theory for abstract arguments, WEIRD encourages some of it's stronger adherents to be viewed by the stereotypes.  Like, they can't seem to put the tribal thinking away.  I suspect it is much the same for us WIERD folks overall as the generational stereotypes.  When red folks complain about the blue forcing them to comply to various ideals, we are probably being WEIRD.

Perhaps I am just over reacting to the initial integration of a theory.  For a while I usually get obsessed with the new pattern being integrated.

Aren't the Weird a tribe? You talk like they are "I suspect it is much the same for us Weird folks" but you don't seem to view them (yourself) as tribal for some Weird reason ( like you don't understand what your doing or saying as you're doing it) which makes you Weird compared to a Normal member of a Normal tribe.

That's a legitimate observation, but the point of being WEIRD is to be anti-tribal, assuming that's even possible.  So no, the WEIRD are unlike the non-WEIRD: like the difference between cats and dogs.