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We're WEIRD. Get over it.
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(09-24-2020, 02:07 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(09-23-2020, 06:14 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(09-22-2020, 12:27 PM)David Horn Wrote: Caution is in order though.  Rarely is anything or anyone all this or that.  For example, some members of the Red culture are quite urbane and well read, but have an emotional link to conservative thought patterns. Here in the South, that may be due to upbringing, and tempered but not totally overcome by life experience.  I can think of any number of examples within my social sphere.  Others are more as you described them.  The latter group is locked into that thinking; the former is more open to suasion of one form or another.

Ii think a lot of it is due to individual personality.  People interested in ideas have to be open. People only open to experiences can be less so.  People not open to either are locked into their respective mindsets, and more or less impervious to outside forces.



WEIRD theory only has two archetypes: WIERD and tribal.  They would have much the same feel, more true in the general aggregate than as to apply to individuals, but it helps one understand the difference between the two cultures.  While I generally reserve turning theory for abstract arguments, WEIRD encourages some of it's stronger adherents to be viewed by the stereotypes.  Like, they can't seem to put the tribal thinking away.  I suspect it is much the same for us WIERD folks overall as the generational stereotypes.  When red folks complain about the blue forcing them to comply to various ideals, we are probably being WEIRD.

Perhaps I am just over reacting to the initial integration of a theory.  For a while I usually get obsessed with the new pattern being integrated.

Aren't the Weird a tribe? You talk like they are "I suspect it is much the same for us Weird folks" but you don't seem to view them (yourself) as tribal for some Weird reason ( like you don't understand what your doing or saying as you're doing it) which makes you Weird compared to a Normal member of a Normal tribe.

No. It is a way of thinking. Occupational groups may have their characteristics that cross other lines. A Nigerian engineer may have much in common with a Japanese engineer than with a Nigerian peasant. I'm not saying that engineers as a group are particularly WIERD, as WIERD people are appearing in all places on the globe. 

Another: people with high IQ's have generally much more in common with each other than with people with low IQ's. The two types get along almost as a rule only in stereotyped situations. Someone of low intelligence might bring up how fun it is to put a lighted firecracker up the anus of a frog and watch the frog disintegrate as the firecracker explodes, which completely offends the sensibilities of smart people who consider such pointless. On the other hand, smart people might discuss the evolution of frogs in the way that someone of low-normal intelligence could never fully understand.

WIERD people are more accepting of national and cultural differences. 

There is no such thing as a tribe of "normal" people. Tribes suggest intolerance of people normal in different ways due to the milieus in which they are raised.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-16-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2020, 09:16 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by sbarrera - 09-18-2020, 10:47 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-18-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2020, 02:03 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2020, 05:10 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-19-2020, 08:48 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-19-2020, 10:46 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-21-2020, 01:48 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-21-2020, 03:45 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-21-2020, 11:57 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-20-2020, 01:00 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-20-2020, 01:39 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-21-2020, 12:30 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-22-2020, 12:27 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-23-2020, 06:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-23-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-24-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-24-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-24-2020, 04:47 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-24-2020, 05:08 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-24-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-25-2020, 12:47 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-25-2020, 11:58 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-20-2020, 04:19 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-20-2020, 11:52 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-21-2020, 03:56 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-21-2020, 12:51 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by sbarrera - 09-22-2020, 12:02 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-22-2020, 12:37 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-22-2020, 12:07 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-25-2020, 11:36 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-26-2020, 04:41 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 09-21-2020, 11:42 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-25-2020, 01:05 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-25-2020, 01:40 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-25-2020, 09:25 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-25-2020, 10:28 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-26-2020, 10:12 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-26-2020, 01:59 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-27-2020, 07:06 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-27-2020, 08:19 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-29-2020, 12:23 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-29-2020, 02:38 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-29-2020, 05:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-29-2020, 08:50 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-29-2020, 09:12 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-29-2020, 11:13 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-29-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-30-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-30-2020, 07:26 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-01-2020, 09:33 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-30-2020, 07:53 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-01-2020, 03:39 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-01-2020, 01:42 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-29-2020, 11:09 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-27-2020, 09:32 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 09-22-2020, 12:05 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-26-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-01-2020, 09:35 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-02-2020, 02:39 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-02-2020, 08:28 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-02-2020, 11:12 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-02-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-03-2020, 12:22 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-05-2020, 11:38 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 01:13 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-06-2020, 07:05 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 10:58 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-06-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 12:59 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-08-2020, 10:15 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-08-2020, 04:40 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-09-2020, 06:57 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-03-2020, 12:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-03-2020, 07:22 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-03-2020, 02:26 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-03-2020, 04:52 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-04-2020, 12:05 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-04-2020, 08:59 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-04-2020, 11:12 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-05-2020, 02:46 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-05-2020, 11:22 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 05:06 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 06:47 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 10:08 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 11:07 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-07-2020, 01:02 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-08-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-08-2020, 02:23 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-08-2020, 10:14 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-08-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-09-2020, 09:26 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-09-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-06-2020, 07:22 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 10:03 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-07-2020, 09:13 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-07-2020, 09:54 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-07-2020, 04:35 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-07-2020, 01:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-06-2020, 12:31 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-05-2020, 10:58 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-07-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-07-2020, 11:24 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-07-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-07-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-07-2020, 06:56 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-08-2020, 04:37 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-08-2020, 06:07 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-08-2020, 08:33 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-08-2020, 07:55 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-09-2020, 02:17 AM

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