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We're WEIRD. Get over it.
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(09-26-2020, 01:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(09-26-2020, 10:12 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(09-25-2020, 09:25 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I assume that you're not seeing, paying as much attention or  becoming more aware of the blue violence that the rest of the country has been seeing and watching  on a regular basis for months these days. The same stupid shit, night after night, month after month. I assume you are able to associate what they're doing with tribal thinking but you seem to be unaware that what you're doing and saying which is similar what they're thinking/believing and using as an excuse or justification   of what they're doing and attracting the interest of a large portion of the country that still believes in the age old American concept of might makes right and the idea of using American  force to establish order and make things right again for most of the country. You're still a member of the blue tribe right. You're a Weird member but you're still a loyal member of the blue tribe right. Eric can let go of the blue tribe and pledge allegiance to the green tribe because Eric has dual citizenship.

Rather than reply directly, I'll let you review the video response of someone who should be a member of your clan ... or maybe not.  The 6 minute video explains the 3minute song at the end of his most recent album, but it deserves attention on its own merit.  In short, it's a WTF to his own people*.

* The reference to the Battle of Blair Mountain deserves a look too ... a good long look.

Well, I think you should have picked a better person to use as an example myself. I mean, a recovering addict who started out by excluding himself from preaching prior to preaching tells me he ain't quite thinking straight and tells me the position he is in right (pretty much broke with nothing of value to show for it) now as far as his life and career. And what he has to do and say in order to restart his life and rekindle a career and be given a chance to release an album that's guaranteed not to flop these days.

It is easy to think of addiction as a moral failure. Everybody faces some slip-up, and nobody decides to become an addict. Drugs and booze take over. Addiction is real and it is difficult to give up. Drugs and alcohol can become physical dependency, and doing without the chemical that keeps one from experiencing life at its most painful is physically difficult. 

Entertainers are particularly prone to addiction. Once successful they have crazy money, and they are often not worldly enough to recognize the stupidity of "trying this" when someone tells them that cocaine is the most wonderful thing ever made. I don't know for myself, but from what I have seen in print media and heard on broadcasting is that it gives a pointless high that makes everything else seem stale by contrast. Many entertainment careers go into rapid decline (film stars and musicians) when the stars find the 'nose candy'.    


Quote:I've heard the NFL has lost 25% of it's viewership. I don't mix business with politics myself. I prefer doing business with whole markets myself.  So, how many fisherman with kids in the boat are shot by game wardens? How many game wardens are overly concerned about being shot or stabbed by a fishermen or a hunter for that matter these days? How many big city cops would prefer to be a game warden or a suburban cop or a private sector cop these days?

State troopers are paid well in Michigan -- well enough that the job is quite attractive to people with college degrees. They can often see results in something like reductions in vehicle crashes and road fatalities as they nab speeders and drunk drivers. They know better than non-cops how to deal with some dangerous people. Drug activity scares them because drug users are unpredictable and drug dealers have a big stake in not being caught. Wildlife enforcers and park rangers are law enforcement... and, yes, people are known to take their bad habits into the wilderness. The wilderness is a good area in which to dispose of a troublesome body, as Ted Bundy showed. Raccoons. let alone bears, coyotes, and cougars, can more efficiently dispose of the corpus delicti whose deceased possessor one raped and murdered. 

As for suburbia being a police paradise... Suburbia is becoming increasingly urban in character. Just think of Greater Los Angeles. Technically, most cities in the armpit of Indiana are suburbs... some suburbs to the south of the Borman Expressway (I-80/94) expressway aren't bad places, but the old industrial suburbs of Chicago are awful... they were doing well when the American steel industry was booming, but that is over.

Private-sector law-enforcement? That is mostly the low end of security guards who wear a uniform and carry a badge. They are most likely to be deputized to enforce laws against shoplifting in a store. They need little training, and such shows in their pay. The exceptions are moonlighting cops who work in a liquor store as a deterrent to armed robberies.    

Quote:Personally speaking, I don't care if you and the Democrats go down with Black Lives Matter. You and them don't seem to care either at this point. So, I'd say both side content with nature running it course and nature to determining the winner. So, when we're done with them and the rich supporting them and its time to mop and let other hunt people like you down, do  you see yourself still being  around/alive or not? I figure the bulk of the Left Wing politicians are going to jump shit or opt to lay on their swords. Does that sound about right to you?

Note well that Black Lives Matter has everything to do with police reform and nothing with reorganization of the economic system. I want the cops to do their jobs and do them well, which means that they do not use excessive force. Their appointed duty in an arrest is to bring an alleged offender back alive to formal detention where that person comes under the scrutiny of the legal system. 

In view of bullet-proof vests, one of the big perils of police work (a crook trying to shoot it out with the police) has abated greatly. Police are now more likely to die in vehicle crashes than in confrontations with criminals. Pull a gun on a cop and you will die. At one time Death Rows were full of cop-killers; today the would-be cop killers are typically spared the experience of Death Row in some states because the police are more likely to kill them. 

We are in need of major reforms of urban police when one finds that offenders who pose no threat of death or grave bodily harm to a police officer or the general public in a confrontation who get killed in encounters with the police are disproportionately black.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-16-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2020, 09:16 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by sbarrera - 09-18-2020, 10:47 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-18-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-18-2020, 02:03 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2020, 05:10 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-19-2020, 08:48 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-19-2020, 10:46 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-21-2020, 01:48 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-21-2020, 03:45 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-21-2020, 11:57 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-19-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-20-2020, 01:00 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-20-2020, 01:39 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-21-2020, 12:30 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-22-2020, 12:27 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-23-2020, 06:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-23-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-24-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-24-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-24-2020, 04:47 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-24-2020, 05:08 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-24-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-25-2020, 12:47 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-25-2020, 11:58 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-20-2020, 04:19 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-20-2020, 11:52 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-21-2020, 03:56 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-21-2020, 12:51 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by sbarrera - 09-22-2020, 12:02 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-22-2020, 12:37 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-22-2020, 12:07 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-25-2020, 11:36 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-26-2020, 04:41 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 09-21-2020, 11:42 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-25-2020, 01:05 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-25-2020, 01:40 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-25-2020, 09:25 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-25-2020, 10:28 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-26-2020, 10:12 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-26-2020, 01:59 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-27-2020, 07:06 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-27-2020, 08:19 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 09-29-2020, 12:23 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-29-2020, 02:38 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-29-2020, 05:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-29-2020, 08:50 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-29-2020, 09:12 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-29-2020, 11:13 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-29-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-30-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 09-30-2020, 07:26 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-01-2020, 09:33 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-30-2020, 07:53 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-01-2020, 03:39 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-01-2020, 01:42 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 09-29-2020, 11:09 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-27-2020, 09:32 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 09-22-2020, 12:05 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 09-26-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-01-2020, 09:35 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-02-2020, 02:39 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-02-2020, 08:28 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-02-2020, 11:12 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-02-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-03-2020, 12:22 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-05-2020, 11:38 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 01:13 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-06-2020, 07:05 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 10:58 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-06-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 12:59 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-08-2020, 10:15 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-08-2020, 04:40 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-09-2020, 06:57 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-03-2020, 12:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-03-2020, 07:22 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-03-2020, 02:26 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-03-2020, 04:52 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-04-2020, 12:05 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-04-2020, 08:59 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-04-2020, 11:12 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-05-2020, 02:46 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-05-2020, 11:22 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 01:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 05:06 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 06:47 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-06-2020, 10:08 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 11:07 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-07-2020, 01:02 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-08-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-08-2020, 02:23 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-08-2020, 10:14 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-08-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by David Horn - 10-09-2020, 09:26 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-09-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-06-2020, 07:22 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-06-2020, 10:03 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-07-2020, 09:13 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-07-2020, 09:54 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-07-2020, 04:35 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-07-2020, 01:14 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-06-2020, 12:31 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-05-2020, 10:58 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-07-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-07-2020, 11:24 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-07-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-07-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-07-2020, 06:56 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Eric the Green - 10-08-2020, 04:37 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-08-2020, 06:07 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Classic-Xer - 10-08-2020, 08:33 PM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-08-2020, 07:55 AM
RE: We're WEIRD. Get over it. - by pbrower2a - 10-09-2020, 02:17 AM

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