We're WEIRD. Get over it.

[Bob Butler 54]

(09-29-2020, 12:23 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Why do you tend to forget that you still live in an American country and forget that Americans have the Constitutional right to defend themselves and their country? Dude, we won't be anarchists, we'll be directly engaging with anarchists and waging war with anarchists and when we're done with them, we'll be coming for you and whoever is left as far as your politicians/government officials and rich people.

It seems worth while to visit Portland again.  The Proud Boys were attempting to instigate violence, heading into a peaceful protest, intending to use paint ball guns, but carrying real weapons.  This from the weapons carried was obviously premeditated.  They managed to find an Antifa person, not looking to instigate, looking to defend against instigators, to respond with lethal force to anything that looked like a lethal threat.  A knife turned the trick, and down one instigator.  The Antifa guy didn’t hang around and talk to the responding police, and as a result fell victim to a order to ‘get him’ by Trump.  It was an outside judicial process killing, with no real use of force to justify it.

Lessons learned?  There are jerks ready to instigate and escalate on both sides?  If you want to play these violent games, they could at any point turn deadly.  I think you are quite correct to stay well short of the instigating line.  The use of fireworks or paint ball guns which are not quite lethal to tempt the other side to escalate is part of the game.

The result?  The latest reporting from Portland has the Proud Boys drinking beer at the park, with Antifa in another park three miles away.  Neither side is quite so willing to push now that they have seen the lethal result.  Even the US Marshalls seem to be dodging press coverage of the improper use of force.

I am not seeing the anarchy you seem to like talking about.  I am seeing instigation by the red, and a right to self defend by Antifa.  In ‘we’ll be coming for you” I am hearing a chicken clucking.