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Fascism is on the ballot
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(10-12-2020, 03:22 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(10-12-2020, 03:06 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(10-11-2020, 01:26 PM)Isoko Wrote: To be honest, I think the Republicans will tone down on Trump's racial rhetoric but they will keep key policies that work with American voters. Combating illegal immigration, "America First" economic policies, slowly withdrawing from Europe and Asia, etc. I would say that with such policies and a smart candidate, Republicans could do well in future elections.

I think Trump has done to the Republican Party what Reagan did. He has transformed what the party stands for and there is no going back. Moderate those views, include other ethnic groups rather then catering to the white only crowd and you do have a winning formula.
If Trump loses, the Republican party will become a more radical hard line American party like the Democratic party is today. I'm sorry but half the country is done fucking around and wasting time and money with the Democrats and could care less if the Democrats end up going broke and slaughtering themselves over the next decade, I don't think you quite grasp how mean and violent this country can become today. I can tell you this, what you see with the liberal media and what you see here is tame compared to what we could do and be able to get away with in real life. Nancy has never been in a real knock down drag fight with Americans. Nancy has never been called a CUNT to her face or seen an image of herself hanging from a tree with a rope around her neck or an image of her head on pike or saw one of her clans homes or business destroyed either. Basically, it's Trump or it's us and Nancy would be better off with Trump and the protections of the law than she would be answering to the lawless or answering to us.

Well, we've seen their plot to murder Gov. Whitmer, which was quickly stopped, and we saw those creeps protesting her covid orders prancing around in their fatigues, jeans, MAGA hats, carrying guns and signs and not social distancing, and seen them parading in other places; not violent yet and perfectly legal, but insane. We've seen the violent Proud Boys whom Trump told to stand by for his orders, and Trump's threats to call on them. We have seen Boogaloo Boys shoot policemen and guards. We've seen Trump's un-uniformed goons attack peaceful protesters in Portland and shoot down a criminal in a hail of bullets before trial at Trump's apparent request. We have seen a vigilante shoot 3 protesters in cold blood in Kenosha. We saw Nazis run over and kill a counter-protester in Charlottesville. We have seen police kill and injure innocent people and get away with it, and we saw a few violent riots in response. Mass gun massacres motivated by prejudice have happened in places like the MME church in the South (by Dylann Roof), and in Pittsburg and El Paso among other places. We have seen hate crimes increase wherever Trump speaks, and lethal white supremacist violence is on the rise. Yes, there is violence in America today, but I'm not so sure it's any greater yet than in some other times in history.

We haven't seen lynchings yet. Nothing like the riots that destroyed black Tulsa in the early 1920s has happened yet. Black or white race riots have not yet happened on the scale of previous ones. And no civil war yet, or Bloody Kansas or Harper's Ferry, and no successful political assassinations yet like we saw in the 1960s and 70s and in 1865, 1881 and 1901. No labor unrest or repression on the scale of the late 19th and early-to-mid 20th century. Terrorist attacks like the one in Oklahoma City in 1995 haven't happened yet.

We will be much better off with Biden, a center-left experienced and level-headed politician who enforces, respects and abides by the law than with the amateur ignorant gangster tyrant fascist trump who does not do any of those things. If your right-wingers cannot abide by the law under Democratic rule in the 2020s and go violent, you will be crushed by the Democrats in power and by other governing officials of any party or none according to the law, and if you use guns they will be taken away and you are liable to be jailed or shot.

Quote:the Left refers to it as collectivism today. You should know about it since you've been directly involved with its advancement for many years. Trump's American populist movement is a direct counter to the Global Marxist movement. We're going to take you out at your knees dude.
You guys are not populists. Your anti-marxist slogans are cover for your support of the greedy economic elite who run roughshod over the people thanks to your anti-populist Party.

Just who wins and by what means is unclear in the long run. Your threats are not any evidence to consider. Elections are won by the most-skilled candidate. Biden and Trump are of about equal skill, but Trump was an unskilled president and has lost the confidence of the people. Unless he can pull off some undemocratic scheme and seize power as a tyrant, he is going to lose. But if the Democrats don't keep faith and don't vote in the 2022 midterm, as they have already failed to do so seriously in 1994 and 2010, then Biden and the Democrats will accomplish little. Also they will fail if they don't pack the Court with liberals if Barrett is rammed onto it, and remove the filibuster. It will be up to Democrats to answer the ruthless Republican tactics over these last 40 years. If they continue to be weak and afraid of your side's power and threats, they will fail in the midterms in 2022. And if they nominate Harris in 2024, they will lose the White House. So much is in the air about exactly how things go politically.

Classic Xer, I would not give up and go crazy if Biden wins. Your side should cool it and regroup. It could not be more clear, if you read the polls that we post here, that Trump is not likely to win in 2020. He has largely sealed his own fate. You can't even blame the Democrats for this. But there will be other chances for the right-wing to come back into power. It depends on demographic trends, and on the willingness of Democrats and their voters to stand up and stand tall, or not.

It is our side that is under the pressure to perform. Climate change is reaching tipping points, and our encroachment and assault on Nature has exacted its price in pandemics and pollution. If Democrats cannot act now, our Earth will become a tropical diseased hothouse, and civilization as we know it will become a miserable struggle if it survives at all amid the resulting chaos and violence. The greedy powers-that-be will continue unabated to turn our country into a banana republic of haves and have-nots, as they have already been doing for 40 years. Our democracy and justice will continue to be eroded away in favor of those rich white people who can buy it and suppress it for others.
If Gumby defeats Trump, you can expect our current depression to remain a depression and plan on a national split this time.. In short, if you can't count on the Democrats and have no faith in them and their judgement at all then you begin to pressure politicians to break with the Democrats altogether and leave them to their own devices. As I've told you before, we don't rely on the Democrats for anything like their voters mainly do these days. The Earth is going to do whatever it does and there isn't anything that you or the Democrats can do to stop it at this point.
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Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-10-2020, 10:04 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-11-2020, 08:07 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-11-2020, 09:50 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-11-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-11-2020, 03:09 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 02:18 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 04:12 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-12-2020, 04:20 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 05:28 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-12-2020, 01:59 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-12-2020, 02:14 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-11-2020, 11:35 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-11-2020, 12:01 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 03:40 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-12-2020, 06:18 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-12-2020, 11:57 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-11-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 01:17 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-12-2020, 10:00 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-12-2020, 01:48 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-12-2020, 01:50 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-14-2020, 09:23 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-14-2020, 09:41 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 03:06 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-12-2020, 03:22 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 05:16 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-12-2020, 06:42 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-12-2020, 09:57 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-14-2020, 09:36 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-12-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-12-2020, 09:39 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-13-2020, 12:00 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-13-2020, 10:29 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-13-2020, 10:30 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-12-2020, 03:37 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-12-2020, 04:32 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-12-2020, 07:31 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-13-2020, 12:41 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-13-2020, 12:44 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-13-2020, 04:05 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-13-2020, 12:45 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-13-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-13-2020, 10:48 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-13-2020, 11:38 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-14-2020, 11:35 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-14-2020, 12:43 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-14-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-14-2020, 10:34 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-15-2020, 05:18 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-15-2020, 09:38 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by CH86 - 10-15-2020, 11:26 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-15-2020, 12:40 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by CH86 - 10-15-2020, 01:39 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-16-2020, 06:15 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-17-2020, 04:00 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-17-2020, 07:15 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-18-2020, 12:48 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-18-2020, 03:35 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-18-2020, 06:47 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-18-2020, 10:47 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-19-2020, 09:51 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-20-2020, 08:05 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-20-2020, 05:07 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-21-2020, 08:31 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-27-2020, 11:55 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-28-2020, 05:16 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-28-2020, 11:39 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-31-2020, 12:05 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-31-2020, 05:02 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-31-2020, 07:52 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-31-2020, 03:31 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-30-2020, 05:34 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-18-2020, 06:16 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-19-2020, 10:39 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-19-2020, 11:13 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-20-2020, 12:56 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-20-2020, 06:15 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-20-2020, 11:52 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-24-2020, 02:38 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-24-2020, 03:40 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-24-2020, 05:43 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-24-2020, 06:48 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-24-2020, 07:34 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-24-2020, 03:03 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-24-2020, 04:09 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-24-2020, 11:38 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-24-2020, 11:51 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-25-2020, 01:09 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-25-2020, 04:00 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-25-2020, 09:43 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-26-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-27-2020, 10:53 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-28-2020, 05:11 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-24-2020, 09:56 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-24-2020, 10:46 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-24-2020, 04:11 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-24-2020, 01:24 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-24-2020, 05:50 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-24-2020, 07:44 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-24-2020, 04:54 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-24-2020, 05:15 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-21-2020, 12:23 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-15-2020, 11:17 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-17-2020, 08:36 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-17-2020, 01:06 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-17-2020, 10:24 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by CH86 - 10-16-2020, 12:14 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-16-2020, 05:28 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-16-2020, 05:42 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-14-2020, 08:26 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-15-2020, 02:18 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-16-2020, 04:02 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-16-2020, 10:47 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-17-2020, 08:30 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-14-2020, 03:22 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by beechnut79 - 10-14-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-14-2020, 06:07 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-14-2020, 08:52 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-14-2020, 09:39 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-14-2020, 11:16 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-15-2020, 05:19 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-15-2020, 10:48 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-16-2020, 02:19 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by CH86 - 10-16-2020, 02:29 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-16-2020, 04:33 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-17-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-18-2020, 02:39 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-18-2020, 10:49 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-19-2020, 10:19 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-19-2020, 11:19 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-20-2020, 12:36 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-21-2020, 12:29 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-16-2020, 04:58 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-16-2020, 05:34 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-16-2020, 04:53 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-16-2020, 05:05 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-17-2020, 08:45 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-18-2020, 04:10 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-18-2020, 11:56 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-16-2020, 07:19 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-16-2020, 07:26 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-16-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-17-2020, 02:13 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-17-2020, 08:58 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-17-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-17-2020, 06:24 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-16-2020, 08:44 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-16-2020, 12:59 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Classic-Xer - 10-17-2020, 01:36 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by David Horn - 10-17-2020, 08:50 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-17-2020, 12:41 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-18-2020, 07:00 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Isoko - 10-18-2020, 08:06 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-18-2020, 02:18 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-19-2020, 11:42 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-18-2020, 11:33 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by beechnut79 - 10-20-2020, 09:59 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-25-2020, 12:15 AM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Bob Butler 54 - 10-25-2020, 02:49 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by Eric the Green - 10-28-2020, 02:00 PM
RE: Fascism is on the ballot - by pbrower2a - 10-28-2020, 03:25 PM

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