The Maelstrom of Violence

[Eric the Green]

(06-30-2017, 02:41 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(06-30-2017, 12:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The late night comics tell the truth. The NRA lies. Truth is an adequate defense against libel, and against "demonizing."

I disagree.  The late night comics seem to think that the more left spin you put on an issue, the more their audience will accept it, and the more 'funny' it is.

The right wing has all the radio talk shows, and other right-wing outlets. I am so glad that the left at least has a few late-night comics. They are all brilliant, and they tell the truth. It's not spin; it's just the facts, and the humor pretty much writes itself given the activities and behavior of the right. And laughing at least relieves some of the tension, which otherwise may lead some to violence (as we have begun to see). Telling the truth with a smile and a laugh, can be effective communication too. They get things across quite well.

Quote:Most of the NRA ad is true if you can for a moment turn off your left spin perspective long enough to see reality.  Many can't.  As a general rule, both sides will lean on Truth heavily, but spin selective truths hard.  As much as you will cheerfully embrace the left perspective of the late night comics, there are others who will look at the NRA's perspective and nod approval.  The most effective propaganda borrows heavily from Truth, and both factions are playing it that way.

I would not debate about the NRA. Case closed.

Quote:This is not in any way an endorsement of the unraveling memes.  Still, a good size part of the country still believes in the unraveling memes.  (Borrow and spend.  Trickle down.  Spend on the military.  Cut domestic services.  The government is the problem.)  There is a delusion that all one has to do is find politicians who will implement the unraveling memes properly.  Lots of luck with that.  Trump is flailing about.  Bush 43 was a disaster.  His father wasn't much better.  It's the economy, stupid.  The unraveling memes haven't worked and aren't apt to work.  Their time, if they ever had a time, is past.

Well, pretty good grist for the comic mill, then, isn't it? It has gone so far past ridiculous that it's an amazingly easy target.

Quote:In the meanwhile, there are demons on either flank thinking there is nothing wrong with demonizing.  It sure feels different if one is the one being demonized, no?

Better communication is always something to try, in the right context at least. It's also up to the right-wing to stop being demons. I don't see that happening until the 4T is over, at least; assuming they lose it that is.