The Maelstrom of Violence

[Eric the Green]

(07-01-2017, 06:02 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Oh, I've listened to them.  It's just that in doing humor, they are allowed and expected to disparage and exaggerate.  The end result is nothing like objective truth.  They are spinning like crazy, presenting biased stuff, telling their selected audience what they expect to hear, with the intent to boost ratings an profit from the political discord they sow.

I have a much more benign view toward them. If you don't know that they include facts in what they do, then I don't think you are listening to them, no.

Quote:A vague and unrealistic hope.

Right; give it up about the NRA. My mind is not closed in general, but it is closed about the NRA. Demonic indeed.

Bob Butler 54 Wrote:Again, you are not listening.  The context of my original statement claimed demons on both extremes.  I used 'demon' in the context of 'one who demonizes.'  I have forever disliked you or any other extreme partisan who insists the other side is stupid, brainwashed, insane, evil or similarly subhuman.  The problem with extreme partisans to a great extent is the habit of demonizing rather than any opinion of the unraveling memes.  A core part of my world view is that major world views have solid reasons for coming into existence, and that many to most who hold such world views can and will believe in their perspective, and defend their perspective, intensely and well.

One who refuses to try to understand the opposing perspective is part of the problem.

If you dislike someone, that is your decision. But that, and discussion about another poster's inadequacies, and unasked-for advice, is a personal attack, and not a discussion of the issues, and does not belong on this forum.

I understand the opposing perspectives all too well.

I agree about major world views having solid reasons for coming into existence. That's what spiral/planetary dynamics is about, and the review of planetary types I posted by Vic DiCara. Now though, our regressives are clinging to these memes when they need to move beyond them. Those who perpetuate these deceptions I might call demons, because I am angry at what they do. But I don't hate people, or dismiss the possibility that anyone has the potential to see the inherent light within them.

Demonic means that one is possessed by something not themselves. I know that this happens to all of us, much of the time.