The Maelstrom of Violence

[Eric the Green]

(07-07-2017, 07:30 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(07-07-2017, 09:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: No question about Daily Banter being a blue site; already admitted. Yet you feel the need to say it again, Bob.

I feel I do. You seem dedicated to spamming this forum with blue heavily spun stuff. There are no red equivalents posting Breitbart or similar red sources anywhere near your frequency. If there were, I doubt such spun stuff would add a lot to the conversation.

I post what I feel people can learn from and enjoy, and I want to rally the blue side too. Or bring reality to bear however I see it. Others can do what they want. But for those who watch TV, late night comics are about the only coverage of the news they get. Have you considered that? ABC offers almost no coverage of the news at all. NBC at least has Seth Meyers, and CBS has Stephen Colbert. And not much else. Are you aware than nightly news programs today are mostly visual tittillation? The former news magazines are now all crime stories. All entertainment.

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(07-07-2017, 09:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Allergic reactions to it from the red side are not a concern at this point. This is a 4T. As I said, the aim is to dispense the truth to those still open to it. The truth is there in that article amidst the spin. Readers and listeners will have to assume in a 4T that things are going to be spun, and not get so dizzy that one cannot discern the truth amidst the spin. It's not that hard. And it's not that hard to tell that there's more truth on the blue side than on the red side, for those that are open to the truth.

I, at least, am concerned with creating and maintaining some degree of communication between the factions. Spamming each other with spun junk doesn't seem to me to be any more 'communication' than poking a bear with a sharp stick.

The Daily Banter story is just one indication that such communication is no longer possible. As I said, my posts may vary from factual reports to blue spin and humor pokes, (and philosophical speculation and T4T theory discussion too, etc.; I have a wide range), but the only potential audience today for what I say or post are younger people still learning what's going on. And to rally and inform the blue side; that is needed too. And I do learn things too from what people post, and get mistakes corrected.

But unwanted counseling for proper behavior? I recommend that you, Dr. Rani/nihilistwhat'shername and Taramarie set up your own forum where you can correct each others' behavior all day, and leave the rest of us alone.

And your posts can be hypocritical at times; arguing for neutrality and communication, and at the same time arguing the blue side, mostly. Often just as vociferously as me, and with more insults toward fellow posters than me.

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(07-07-2017, 09:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I think this quote from that blue site is very true: "You cannot reach out and find common ground with people who do not acknowledge reality in any way." That applies to lots of people on the red side, and many more than on the blue side. And the fact that people on the red side assumed what they did about the NPR post, is factual evidence of that.

Yep. This is good reason to rebut people who do not acknowledge reality in any way.

They have to be rebutted. Evil is allowed to triumph if good people do nothing. Fake news and lies prevail in the public discourse if they are not rebutted. The goal is not to communicate with the liars. The goal is to make sure that some truth and reality gets out.