(08-14-2017, 02:31 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(08-14-2017, 01:05 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: The problem is that we're clearly in a 4T and in a 4T the center never holds. I would say that like summoning a demon by saying its name, the left is busy doing that now with fascism. Fascism can only arise if there is a credible threat of communism.
I'm dubious that we're in a true 4T. We haven't had a regeneracy, a clear decisive shift into new values and trial and error mode. We're in see saw mode. That puts as more in 3T stagnation and disagreement than in a 4T decisive culture shift. Of course, there is a partisan tendency to see any brief moment on the top of the see saw ride as some sort of permanent thing. Hillary will win. Trump will suddenly develop people skills. At this point, I'm not holding my breath.
What would this be if not 4T, the timing of the Financial Crisis and election of Obama was spot on. Delayed regeneracy does not mean back to 3T which I have not recognized, I'm thinking we're looking at years a major civil strife(short of civil war) during this 4T, possibly with other countries getting involved. It will probably involve international conflict and US domestic upheaval.
Most 4Ts devolve into civil wars, even the American Revolution was a civil war with up to a third of the population at the time belonging to the Loyalists. Actually the last 4T was the exception to the rule with the New Deal coming very early in the 4T with democratic dominance.
If we do go down the route of civil strife/civil war then this 4T will probably end badly for many, we could end up with dictatorship, continued wealth inequality and corporate supremacy, and bitter social/race relations like after the first Civil War.