The Maelstrom of Violence

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(09-10-2017, 03:57 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(09-10-2017, 10:20 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(09-08-2017, 11:43 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: PBR is a white liberal so of course he doesn't get it.  After all he knows more about being black than I do, never mind the fact that I am black.

In general I would say that the problem is that studying, speaking with correct grammar and getting good grades results in success, success that often means leaving the ghetto and the low life's behind.  Some of this could be "caving to the man", some of it could be "them doing that makes me look bad" but to be perfectly honest I think I know the true source.

That source is that the success of those blacks who study, speak with proper grammar and get good grades in school prove that the left's victim narrative is really self-imposed.  That more than anything else aggravates those who are the first to start shouting about other blacks "acting white".

This is no different than the experience of being among the white trash or living in the barrio, and climbing out to some success, great or small.  Nothing unique here.  It still ignores the obvious question: is society better served by assisting this process or just letting it happen on its own.  We have data that shows how much greater the success rate is when society assists. You seem to indicate that this should be an individual effort.  If so, why?

And that, David, is the point. Before World War II, Polish-American and Italian-American kids were almost invariably poor. But they paid attention to the schoolteacher (often a non-nonsense nun complete with a ruler). They learned the basics so that when it was time to use a slide rule, they were well prepared. When it came time to write a coherent report they were prepared. Then came World War II, which put everything to the test. The bright kids who knew their trigonometry knew how to point artillery weapons for maximal effect. Flight crews could figure at what point to release the bomb. Smart kids got the responsibility to wage a smart war, and the Army and Navy didn'pt care about ethnicity -- just that the Zero got sent to Davy Jones' locker or that the oil field at Ploiesti that was supplying the Wehrmacht was in flames. After the war, those who did the smart jobs in the military got the smart, well-paying jobs in private industry. Never mind that their parents did 'dumb' jobs like filling gas tanks or cleaning. 

As Abraham Lincoln said, it is better to keep silent and let people think one stupid than to open one;s mouth and leave no doubt. Most of us have some means of sizing up the intelligence of others quickly. Job title? No. This class society wastes millions of people, although that may be impractical as we have a real crisis. Melanin? Sure -- if one is a racist. Surname? Many people with the surname "Lee" don't look anything like the general. No. Let someone talk.  People who speak unexceptionable English, with good grammar, solid sentence structure, and fit use of words are more likely than not on the intelligent side. Then listen for the content of the talk. Informed talk with some subtlety suggests intelligence. But even with a non-native speaker of English, listen for the topics of discussion.

filling gas tanks.

There's a job that is pretty much a thing of the past these days. Except in the states of New Jersey and Oregon, where self-serve is illegal.