(11-11-2016, 03:43 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: I would note that Strauss and Howe date the second turning from the mid sixties to the mid eighties, so it includes the Reagan revolution as much as it does the Vietnam protests.
Before we figure out how the elites are reduced, we need to figure out who the elites are. I think if we identify them as people like Zuckerberg and Cook and Musk, we could easily envision Trump taking governmental action to undercut their empires, for example by creating a national social media infrastructure along the lines of the post office. If they are Goldman Sachs bankers, it's possible that riots could result in their homes being burned down and many being killed, and while it currently seems unlikely, such riots could grow out of BLM protests and the current antidemocracy protests.
Mikebert, who do you think the elites are?
I was referencing Generations from which the grey champion concept and the Pepperland reference came. If you look at the extended turning (which goes to 1984) there is plenty of room for someone who came of age then. But they would not have come of age during the New Consciousness Awakening. S&H are from that time. It means something to them. It means a lot less to people our ages and even less to those younger than us. There is no cultural movement that enthused my cohorts in the late 1970's. There was a political movement (Reagan youth) and a religious reaction (Moral Majority), but the former is not spiritual and the second (like the Fundamentalists last cycle) are planning to move into hibernation. The first might play a role in a 4T, but it is not going to informed by their experiences coming of age in a spiritual awakening. They will be a secular crowd.