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Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!
(11-10-2016, 12:17 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(11-10-2016, 01:04 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 09:38 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 08:10 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 08:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Not quite. It will accelerate.

I expect the Republican Party and the economic elites behind it to do everything possible to maintain power and leave any ideological alternative, including a humanistic liberalism, blocked out of relevance indefinitely.

In the end the pathology makes a socialist insurrection possible in the event of a crop failure  (like global warming that isn't happening), an economic meltdown, or a war for profits going badly

One Yuge problem with that theory bro.  The GOP elites hate Trump and Trump's base.  They will be absorbed by the Democrats most likely because the party's have switched coats again.  I would have thought you'd have noticed that she sounded like the Goldwater girl she always was and he sounds like a Jack Kennedy Democrat.

-- b4 the Donald ran 4 prez he was a Dem


More specifically -- the Republican Party needs the votes, It will never get  them from humanistic liberals unless the Democrats nominate someone as cranky as Trump.

Donald Trump will quickly go to the orthodox part of the Republican party upon inauguration. He will not be seeking votes until 2020... so he can betray his erstwhile supporters at will as he does everything that the Corporate wing wants, transforming America into a pure plutocracy that entrenches power  forever and ensures that liberals will be forever irrelevant in American political life.

Expect this horrible man to include hypocrisy and betrayal among his repertory of evil. He no more cares about the common man than he cares about a sea anemone.  He might as well say "Suffer for my greed, peons!" after he is inaugurated.

2018 should be a slam-dunk tor Republicans with the likeli9hood of picking up a couple of Senate seats and maybe some House seats due to low turnout by people who have largely lost faith in the American political process.

I have no faith in 2020. Democracy in America that depends upon a contest of ideas could be dead that year and afterward. From then on we might as well be a single-party dictatorship until the dissolution of the USA, most likely in World War III.
He will be spending the next 4 years earning the votes (the trust) of the voters that he will need to be re-elected in 2020. That's right, he will actually be EARNING the votes vs expecting to receive them like the Democrats. Democrats have moved so far a way from the concept of working and earning that they no longer relate to those who have worked and earned everything that they have. There's your gap, a gap that racist, fascist and whatever deplorable term that you use isn't going to slice into or influence. The party of the wealthy blue uppity (playdude) and the welfare recipient (Odin & Eric) with government workers (Wonk) and an ever shrinking pool of private sector workers (minority white/blue collar) in between is positioned to be in big trouble as far as the upcoming 4t is concerned


The Republican leadership cares only about (1) power, and (2) survival.  Principle? Hardly. It keeps stringing along the Religious Right with promises to ban abortion and same-sex marriage that it can never do. It gives lip service to forcing creationism and school prayer into public schools and can never achieve such. Whether one believes in such attempts to make American laws identical with "God's Law", whatever that is, Republicans who promise unconstitutional reforms of personal morality by law upon people not in the Religious Right swindle such people. Such is grossly immoral.

If it can maintain its power in free elections it will of course do so. But if it is scared of losing power through a free election we might expect some electoral shenannigans -- especially if its leadership has done criminal acts (corruption, war crimes). I expect efforts to privatize public assets -- like the Interstate Highway System -- perhaps to political cronies.

The Republican Party is undeniably a reactionary entity whose economic ideology is stuck in the Gilded Age. That;s when workers toiled for 70 hours a week and lived for about 40 years. Such is great for profits, but horrible for those who must do such work. Don't fool yourself: these fellows want the federal Income Tax abolished; they want Big Business to have the right to refuse to deal with unions; they want occupational safety and environmental regulation gutted. They want people in hock to predatory lenders who might even turn defaulting borrowers into serfs.

That is all profitable, even if it is all destructive to the working class. But the Economic Right, which generally has no more compassion for working people than it has for a piece of used toilet paper, would be delighted to achieve such and rely upon a brutal police to enforce such. All that can now stop any of that is a Democratic filibuster.

Or a Socialist insurrection if such nasty conditions endure. Make the local capitalism objectionable and I might become a Marxist.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Basket of Deplorables - by John J. Xenakis - 09-10-2016, 11:06 AM
RE: Basket of Deplorables - by pbrower2a - 09-10-2016, 02:01 PM
RE: Gringrich - by The Wonkette - 10-27-2016, 11:29 AM
RE: Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can! - by pbrower2a - 11-10-2016, 03:10 PM

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