Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Classic-Xer]

(07-08-2018, 05:46 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(07-08-2018, 01:41 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-06-2018, 04:25 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(07-06-2018, 04:00 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(07-06-2018, 09:43 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: President Trump is a failure. He got power and has been using it in ways that hurt people in the name of his own self image.

I think he's been pretty successful so far despite all the resistance he has faced from your side and a portion of my side as well.

Did you see what happened to soybean futures? 

Farmers and ranchers usually vote Republican. They went from New Era Republicans in the late 1920s to New Deal Democrats by the early 1930s.

No, I did not see this coming, but when you start seeing approval ratings in the 30s for the President in Arkansas and Nebraska, the President has a big problem.

So, you support the Chinese Government effort to sway the 2018 election results in your/their favor. From what I see here and else where, blues have a serious lack of character issue that extends from the top to the bottom. Now, if I were a never Trump Republican (a discard) , I'd exploit the opportunity and begin an effort to take over the leadership of the Democratic party which will place all the rotten eggs in one basket. Hint.....How many billions upon billions will have to be raised and spent by the Democrats to over come a strong candidate with a powerful message & signs of a commitment to keeping his word to a large segment of American society commonly referred to as the American working class. LIBERALS ARE A JOKE!!!!

If the Russians think that they can get a better deal with Donald Trump as President and the Chinese think they can get a better deal with just about any Democrat as President, then why shouldn't the Chinese act upon our political system? Maybe more subtly and with more concern for plausible deniability... Trump apparently sold out to the Russians in full knowledge of what he was doing.

But let's talk about tariffs, taxes, and the farm-and-ranch vote. The farm-and-ranch vote is usually complacently and strongly Republican, and in some states (like Ohio, Florida, and Iowa) strong enough to make the difference in some statewide elections. Farmers and ranchers usually vote Republican because Republicans typically offer lower taxes. Farmers and ranchers are usually cash cows (pardon the pun!) for federal, state, and local taxes. Taxes are a big cost of farming and a big charge against earnings.

Tax cuts rarely fail to appeal to farmers and ranchers so long as those do not come at the cost of crop supports, water projects, and food stamps (food stamps are run by the Department of Agriculture, and farmers and ranchers do not want that goose to be killed to stop it from laying golden eggs for farmers, ranchers,  and food processors.  

Donald Trump may not have recognized that tariffs would hurt farmers and ranchers -- but farmers and ranchers know now. Farmers and ranchers vote their economic interests, and free trade might be enough to make them into Democratic voters long enough to prevent Republicans from holding onto the House of Representatives in 2018 and the Presidency in 2020 -- and the Senate in one of those two years. One of the most basic rules of (small l) liberal (small d) democratic politics is to not hurt supporters.

I wonder how many people who harvested crops last year will be wearing a "Make America Great Again") cap as they harvest their crops last year or two years ago. No, I am not talking about those caps that might  be replaced with "World Champion Indians 2018" caps in northern rural Ohio. Maybe it will be something more like "Too bad I can't use Trump lies as fertilizer!"

Policies that hurt farmers can cause them to change their ways of voting. Watch the Electoral College in 2020.

I feel sorry for people who voted for Trump and got the shaft. Soybean farmers are not the first, and they won't be the last.

I thought Democrats are staunchly opposed to the idea of foreign powers meddling in our political process these days. I doubt most American ranchers and farmers are going to be hurt by the tariffs imposed by the CHINESE GOVERNMENT. I assume China must not be worried about its own ability to feed a billion Chinese. I wonder if North Korea or Vietnam would be interested in purchasing their soybeans instead of China. Yeah, this falls crop for China might be in doubt but next years crop will be sold and shipped to other markets. The Chinese elites are going to learn how little we ( the American people) care about them and the lives of the people under them. Evidently, the ones who for Trump thinking he was lying about getting tough on China who are angry and threatening to turn on him today for keeping his word should have voted for Clinton and higher taxes and the trade policies that blues with shifty values like you and most others (values that are used this way to get this or that way for that and so forth) were using against me a few years ago.

Me, I'm principled and my values don't shift with the wind or switch by the issue. OK. You've been showing America how f-d up, unreliable and largely uncaring you guys are about anything that isn't associated with the term liberal for a couple of years now. It's nothing new to me, I've been seeing it for over a decade and I've been pointing it out to lackadaisical Democratic voters for over a decade with a fair amount success. Like I said, what's left of the Bush era Republicans (the fascists of that time) are now coming your way and are taking seats on liberal news networks like CNN and MSNBC. As I've said, nature has its own way of sorting out people and nature is becoming the primary force at work today.